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If you’re an Alpha male, shouldn’t you be allowed to just punch people who annoy you at work?

Sometimes Alpha cab drivers want to punch their customers too.

Every day, it seems, I learn a little bit more about the oppression of men. Recently, for example, I learned that men who are working customer service jobs are oppressed because they are prohibited from punching their customers, even when these customers are really, really annoying, and possibly even ladies. At least that’s the lesson I took from a recent Facebook posting by MRA and frequent Spearhead contributor Jack Donovan.  Here’s Jack:

 Men want to carry their own weight, but to do so, they may have to take a job which requires them to choose “flight” over “fight” as part of their regular duties. All customer service oriented jobs, for instance, require men to take abuse from … someone who is angrily issuing insults and challenge cues … and reply submissively.

Even worse is when some of these poor men, like Jack, are natural “alphas” forced to take these beta-ass jobs because for some reason the people in charge of hiring haven’t recognized their awesome alphaness:

It would be interesting to see someone do a study tracking the testosterone levels of “alpha” type men who would not choose a customer service job, but who were forced to take a position where they had to apologize and beg forgiveness from abusive women and “betas” all day.

It’s almost like you have to act as if the customer is always right!

As a man who had blood in his face for *several hours* after having to hold my tongue while I was screamed at by a neurotic old female customer this week, the physical effects were pretty noticeable in the short term. I was murderously furious for hours and then emotionally exhausted and kind of depressed through the next day.

Wouldn’t it have been better for everyone – with the possible exception of the old lady, of course, and the rest of the customers, and maybe the firm employing Mr. Donovan – if he could have chosen “fight” instead of “flight,” and just popped that old bat in the nose? Problem fucking solved!

Let’s just shut down the economy and the judicial system for a day or two while we work out a way that Mr. Donovan can just punch people without any consequences. Because he’s an alpha, damn it, and he really shouldn’t be hemmed in by petty “laws” and “social conventions” and “moral codes” clearly meant for betas and ladies and other losers.

EDITED TO ADD: Donovan has responded to this post in the comments here. He says he’s not an MRA, so I’ve edited out that part.  (I did find his Facebook post through a link on the MR subreddit, FWIW.)

I should clarify that Donovan did not talk directly about punching people; he talked about the “fight or flight” instinct.

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Pam
Pam
13 years ago

Men join women in southwest Colombia sex strike

“After some initial frustration, men have decided to facilitate the protest against the corrupt local government by taking to their central park on Saturday to stage a hunger strike”

Mr. Kobold
Mr. Kobold
13 years ago

“Women withholding sex for roads. That’s right. Are all women hookers? Do all women use sex for profit and coersion? The answer is a resounding yes, yes, yes!”

Profit and “coersion”? Just when you think the dumb can’t fall to greater depths it opens up a new sinkhole.

Hookers? More like a strategy the has a historical precedent, with examples that are both satirical (as in the tongue and cheek campaign Belgian government spouses did in response to the deadlock that had Belgium without a government for well over a year) and serious (as in this Filipino village that wanted to end violent fueding http://articles.cnn.com/2011-09-19/world/philippines.sex.strike_1_village-strike-drug-trafficking?_s=PM:WORLD)

But wait, those are from places Slavey can’t even find on a map, so that must not have ever happened.

I know libertarians like Slavey are coddled and safe in this country to spout off their idiocy, but in places that lack significant infrastructure (i.e. Columbia) a road is a big deal for the quality of life and the general betterment of people’s lives (better access to commerce, or healthcare for example)

What is the point Slavey is trying to make with this anyway? “Hey y’all check out these foreign whoers(sic)!”

A group of people improved their town in a non-violent manner, only a fake engineer from Texas like Slavey could find fault with that.

And sorry go way off topic, but how does fly around the country fixing the nation’s milk industry if he bitches about getting a drivers license? I know I have raised this before but I actually am really curious.

Mr. Kobold
Mr. Kobold
13 years ago

*feuding

NWOslave
NWOslave
13 years ago

@Pam

That’s great Pammy! Wives/girlfriends coercing men so viciously that the men were forced to starve themselves just so those angelic creatures would pretend to love them.

I guess if those women wanted a road, in a town of 35k. Ya figure they could grab a shovel. I mean 15k women. How long could it take? Why bother though. Just use sex to have men slave away in the hot sun.

How much labor does a man need to expend just to get a little tenderness. How much starvation does he need to face. Can you even imagine that? Women withholding sex to the point that men willingly starve themselves just to have a woman show them a little tenderness?

What’s next on the slutwalker hit parade? Women wearing pasties, taunting men with sex and holding up signs saying, “withholding sex for profit and manual labor while sexually taunting men is not an invitation to rape.”

Comet
Comet
13 years ago

I too have suffered through customer service, so I hope this guy succeeds in finding more suitably manly, physically demanding employment, with all the exhiliarating risks and punching opportunities he could wish for… No, wait a minute. I was under the impression teh wymynz forced all men into dangerous jobs anyway? I thought MRAS DREAMED of these cushy little ladyjobs where all you have to do is bat your eyelashes and chatter to people all day.

NWOslave
NWOslave
13 years ago

@Mr. Kobold
“A group of people improved their town in a non-violent manner, only a fake engineer from Texas like Slavey could find fault with that.”

No. Women withheld sex for mens manual labor. I knew feminists could sipn it into a mission of mercy.

VoiP
VoiP
13 years ago

Delta:

Kate – you probably haven’t met any MRAs because I’m none of the more devoted ones bother with women much. I’m not an active MRA but I do study game in order to bed women, so you’ve probably met guys hundreds of guys who are loosely aware of the MRA life, they just aren’t going to mention it whilst trying to get down your pants at that tasty vag of yours.

Ahem.
KAVE is a middle-aged, male, businessman from Canada who’s devoted to his wife and kids.
Nice game.

Pam
Pam
13 years ago

LOL!! Way to make up your own delusional reality of the situation in Barbacoas. The men didn’t go on a hunger strike to protest the women’s sex strike, you idiot! But hell, why read about anything any further when you can just read catchy headlines and make up your own story to go along with them.

Nobinayamu
Nobinayamu
13 years ago

From various articles about the strike:

The road is a major cause for concern, as it is the only way in and out of the town. It currently takes eight to 10 hours to travel less than 60 miles to the nearest town, the capital city of Nariño. As a result, dozens of people have died on the treacherous route before they were able to receive medical attention at the nearest hospital

Yep, just manual labor; like nagging their husbands to clean the gutters.

Colombia has a recent history of sex-strikes. In 1997, Colombia’s military chief Manuel Bonnet called for a sex-strike among the wives of paramilitaries, guerrillas, and druglords to promote peace. In 2006, wives and girlfriends of gang members in the town of Pereira in central Colombia purportedly withheld sex from gangsters who failed to turn in their arms after their city suffered a period of violence that left 480 people dead.

Those utterly, frivolous whores.

katz
13 years ago

And then once they got to the hospital, they had to wait for a bunch of slutty girls to get birth control.

kirbywarp
kirbywarp
13 years ago

Well this seems as good a place as any… Hi everyone! Back from a bit of a hiatus as school has started…

NWO:

Good to see you’ve been keeping up with yourself.

“Wives/girlfriends coercing men so viciously that the men were forced to starve themselves just so those angelic creatures would pretend to love them.”

“Can you even imagine that? Women withholding sex to the point that men willingly starve themselves just to have a woman show them a little tenderness?”

I just… don’t understand you. Apparently you subscribe to the “man must have sex or perish, woman has sex only begrudgingly because she is made of pure evil” way of thinking… which is nonsense for so many reasons, as well as unjust to either party. Then there’s this:

“Women wearing pasties, taunting men with sex and holding up signs saying, “withholding sex for profit and manual labor while sexually taunting men is not an invitation to rape.””

Apparently in your mind women have some hypnotic power over men with their naked bodies, enticing and entrapping them like sirens, only to sic the police on them with only a glimpse of provocation. What kind of messed up, screwy, backwards and upside-down world do you live in anyway? Normal men can choose to not have sex. Normal men can choose to not have sex for years! Normal men are not gob-struck at the sight of woman-flesh, they do not follow the call of hormones like children following the pied piper.

(hetero men for the purposes of this paragraph, but this applies to any gender or orientation really)

You live in a fairy-tale world the likes of which the Grimm brothers never envisioned.

Wake up.

(hai everyone, I’m back!)

katz
13 years ago

hai Kirby!

Pam
Pam
13 years ago

Just when you think the dumb can’t fall to greater depths it opens up a new sinkhole.

But remember, you are dealing with Slavey, the most oppressed person on the face of the earth.

Moewicus
Moewicus
13 years ago

Women withholding sex for roads. That’s right. Are all women hookers? Do all women use sex for profit and coersion? The answer is a resounding yes, yes, yes!

I don’t see how this proves either assertion. All it requires is one counterexample, and there are lots.

NWOslavey, please tell me how refusing to share one’s body with someone else is “vicious coercion.” Because if it’s true I’m being viciously coerced all the time. It’s a wonder my hand has staved off all this vicious coercion all these years. Likely the only reason my will is not broken is because the hand has taken all the not-sex into itself and become like Dumbledore’s hand, rotting away. Dark magic, it always leaves traces…

Moewicus
Moewicus
13 years ago

All it requires is one counterexample to disprove

FTFM

Mr. Kobold
Mr. Kobold
13 years ago

“No. Women withheld sex for mens manual labor. I knew feminists could sipn(sic) it into a mission of mercy.”

In Slavey’s world, the sex he is not having is especially hurtful when it is not happening for a cause in places he probably has a couple racist jokes about.

But let’s bust out a breakdown of Slavey, because honestly there is no point in debating a specimen such as him once you analyze the facts on the ground. Given ho he protesteth so much about his job (“I am just soooo tired guys”) it is very likely that his “engineering position” is either none existent to extremely exaggerated. His greatest societal interaction (citations for it can be found everyday pretty much) is posting utterly vapid and ignorant comments on a satirical feminist blog. There is honestly no indication that he has any real life friends if he literally goes from “work” to here every day. And as indicated by his comments (above postings are an example) relationships between people who mutually love each other are impossible for him to comprehend. Example: he doesn’t see the situation his stupid post, and Pam’s subsequent response to it, as the possibility of husband and wives from a Colombian town operating together to solve their problems, but rather it’s women being just ever so cruel (“cry cry, whine whine”).

Honestly at this point it was anyone else I would suggest some sort of therapeutic group to help them with Slavey’s blatant socializing problems. But I think I’ll adhere to Slavey’s idiotic libertarian mindset and just say that old and busted fake engineers from Texas, who have no hope of having friends much less a romantic partner, are damaged goods and should be treated as such.

Now, what type of identification does one use to jet across the country to solve the country’s milk machine ills if you don’t believe in drivers’ licenses?

stonerwithaboner
13 years ago

One time I was at 7/11 and this guy was buying some cigarettes, and they didn’t have his favorite brand so he started yelling at the cashier. The cashier was some guy, but he looked scared. I wasn’t as much of a smart ass back then. Now I woulda jumped in the arguement and said, “look here dickhead, they all cause lung cancer the same.”

I like buying stuff online so I don’t have to deal with y’all….

It’s just like I say in the manosphere.

I love chatting with y’all online but am glad I will never meet you face to face

NWOslave
NWOslave
13 years ago

I knew I could count on the crew to excuse such deplorable behavior.

Women, (en masse), withheld an act of intimacy, (the act of intimacy), supposedly shared with the one you love for manual labor. A fucking road. And not one of you could bring yourselves to even say, “that is pretty low,” or, “they shouldn’t have done that,” or even, “that wasn’t very nice.”

But ya couldn’t do it, could ya?

kirbywarp
kirbywarp
13 years ago

@NWOslave:

Hate to break it to ya, buddy, but it’s not the news story or us. It’s you. You just aren’t worth taking seriously anymore. Them’s the breaks.

Molly Ren
13 years ago

I am kind of surprised a sex strike has actually been carried out outside of that one Greek play. How well do they actually work?

Moewicus
Moewicus
13 years ago

I think it’s AOK slavey. Their husbands can get over it but the people who died on the longer route won’t be getting over that more treacherous road anytime soon. You still haven’t explained how it’s “vicious coercion.” We all realize bumping uglies in the middle of the beast with two backs while fucking is (the act of intimacy), merely defining it further doesn’t help any argument you’re making. What argument are you making, anyway? Do you just come here to get outraged that we don’t sufficiently agree with you?

kirbywarp
kirbywarp
13 years ago

Moewicus: He’s trying to show that we don’t have any compassion or human kindness towards the poor men who were so dependent on sex to survive…

It’s… bleh. So many bizarre assumptions.

What it shows is that the road was such a trivial thing that something like withholding sex was enough to sway the government. It took something utterly absurd, not the constant death and hardship faced by the citizens, to get the government to listen.

Molly Ren
13 years ago

Moewicus, I think he sees the sex strike as how all women act all the time.

kirbywarp
kirbywarp
13 years ago

That too…

Nobinayamu
Nobinayamu
13 years ago

Moewicus, I think he sees the sex strike as how all women act all the time

To be fair, the vast majority of women may very well be on a “no sex with NWO”-strike.

The road is a major cause for concern, as it is the only way in and out of the town. It currently takes eight to 10 hours to travel less than 60 miles to the nearest town, the capital city of Nariño. As a result, dozens of people have died on the treacherous route before they were able to receive medical attention at the nearest hospital.

“A fucking road.” Indeed.

NWO, either put down the bottle or put down the keyboard.