Every day, it seems, I learn a little bit more about the oppression of men. Recently, for example, I learned that men who are working customer service jobs are oppressed because they are prohibited from punching their customers, even when these customers are really, really annoying, and possibly even ladies. At least that’s the lesson I took from a recent Facebook posting by MRA and frequent Spearhead contributor Jack Donovan. Here’s Jack:
Men want to carry their own weight, but to do so, they may have to take a job which requires them to choose “flight” over “fight” as part of their regular duties. All customer service oriented jobs, for instance, require men to take abuse from … someone who is angrily issuing insults and challenge cues … and reply submissively.
Even worse is when some of these poor men, like Jack, are natural “alphas” forced to take these beta-ass jobs because for some reason the people in charge of hiring haven’t recognized their awesome alphaness:
It would be interesting to see someone do a study tracking the testosterone levels of “alpha” type men who would not choose a customer service job, but who were forced to take a position where they had to apologize and beg forgiveness from abusive women and “betas” all day.
It’s almost like you have to act as if the customer is always right!
As a man who had blood in his face for *several hours* after having to hold my tongue while I was screamed at by a neurotic old female customer this week, the physical effects were pretty noticeable in the short term. I was murderously furious for hours and then emotionally exhausted and kind of depressed through the next day.
Wouldn’t it have been better for everyone – with the possible exception of the old lady, of course, and the rest of the customers, and maybe the firm employing Mr. Donovan – if he could have chosen “fight” instead of “flight,” and just popped that old bat in the nose? Problem fucking solved!
Let’s just shut down the economy and the judicial system for a day or two while we work out a way that Mr. Donovan can just punch people without any consequences. Because he’s an alpha, damn it, and he really shouldn’t be hemmed in by petty “laws” and “social conventions” and “moral codes” clearly meant for betas and ladies and other losers.
EDITED TO ADD: Donovan has responded to this post in the comments here. He says he’s not an MRA, so I’ve edited out that part. (I did find his Facebook post through a link on the MR subreddit, FWIW.)
I should clarify that Donovan did not talk directly about punching people; he talked about the “fight or flight” instinct.
Mr. Kobold – Sir – I must concur with Men’s Rights Activist Lieutenant here. Within three years – that is, 10:05 EST, 10/15/11 – I do believe it is likely that you will engaging in Anal Sex with another homeless Man.
MRAL’s having another hot Saturday night making puerile insults and dabbling in sockpuppetry.
Dude, you’re in a pretty awesome city. Go see a show, do something, get out in the world.
Me I guess K.B., I’ll stop on my end (doing…whatever it is I am doing) but at this point on the slope I expect a few more wicked mature insults involving truck stop bathrooms and the like. Just more contributions to MRAL’s “you kidding me son?” tome of internet fail.
Oh MRAL/Dad 2 Boys stop stopppp!!! Why are you still beating me??? You already lost soooooo bad! Oh the shame!! Oh the humanity!!!!!
I already mentioned my major is mathematics.
I’m sorry, I must not have noticed. Thank you.
Oh yeah Dad 2 Boys, the most recent MRAL sock-puppet, is in the mix.
It’s like the big reveal of Damien Lewis’ character in the shit Steven King movie “Dreamcatcher”. Summary: basically a British guy playing an American guy who has the most ridiculous British accent
And MRAL, quick tip: when my friends and I watched that (awesomely bad) movie on TV at 3 AM last night, it was after spending hours going out and having good time!
Get on top of hellkell’s advice, the (rapidly diminishing) part of me that doesn’t think you’re beyond hope thinks it would be one of the best decisions of your life.
Anonymous age 69,
Please wander on back to Laura Grace Robins’ sycophantic echo chamber, as you’ll get far more support for your myopic worldview there.
Ah yes, you high IQ-having wunderkind, you.
I’m willing to bet the rudeness you feel from female customer service workers is, like all the other “rudeness” you experience from women, a failure to bend down and suck your dick upon seeing you.
Folks, I’d like to show you the benefits of a High IQ: Rute, you’re TL;DR, FYI.
That’s right, MRAL, the Boy Genius can’t manage to read a couple of hundred words.
MRAL, who is, “very strong”, in addition to his being, “Very smart” also has a good flight response; since his agrressive rants about what people would/wouldn’t do over in the shooting in the salon thread were met with a lot of people telling him he didn’t know his ass from hole in the ground he has been really quiet.
I guess we were too rude to him in response to his insults. we didn’t show enough ladylike fear, or something, and (this being the internet) he couldn’t give us the beatings we so richly deserve.
@Pecunium: MRAL WT is a math major, so clearly we owe it to him to speak only in equations!
Girls are taught that being nice means being meek and compliant, and that being assertive is okay in small doses but you can’t be too assertive or people will call you the b word.
Check it out: The Art of Ambition conference for men only. (I know people who go to this church…it’s sobering.)
Nooo, not equations! Some of us are girls — we can’t do equations! We can only do soft sciences like biology and chemistry and increasing amounts of physics!
He pissed in them himself, but damn if he’ll admit it on pain of death. Also Dad 2 Boys assures him that it’s a totally normal manly thing to do, as is blaming the bitches for it, so he’s gonna take his word for it. (This reassurance involved a cliched talking-to-yourself-in-a-reflective-surface scene, ala Green Goblin or Smeagol. MRAL’s roommate has been begging for a room change since the first day of classes, poor bastard.)
@random
426×7: You! I like you! 🙂If men are less rude, does that mean more dick-suckings from male customer service people? Or is that not part of the expectation for them, therefore zero blowjobs from anyone means women are officially ruder? :p
IIRC, he lives with Mom. So, yeah, I do feel kinda sorry for her – if he feels it’s okay to treat random online strangers the way he treats us, how the hell does he treat his mother? How does he get past the fact that she owns a vagina? (fuck no, i am never letting that go, the jokes practically write themselves!)
Geez, he lives with his mom? My point stands — she’s probably fucking desperate for a change by now. D: I’m a way, way more classy and thoughtful and kind person than MRAL is and even my parents were pretty happy to see teenage me GTFO for college. (My vision of the dialogues in a mirror between MRAL and Dad 2 Boys now includes occasional interruptions for MRAL to yell through the door “Mooooom! Go away, I’m still using the baaathroom!”)
On a happier note, I think I figured out the source of all of MRAL-the-mathematician’s pathetic insecurities! It started with puberty:
http://www.smbc-comics.com/index.php?db=comics&id=2398#comic
His terrible understanding of biology (and genitalia) done let him down.
I am on a full scholarship at a fairly high-ranked university, so yeah, I’m pretty sure I’m a better person than you are, you fuck.
You call random people you’ve never met “fucks,” so I’m pretty sure 98% of the human race and 100% of plants, animals, bacteria, etc, are better than you, MRAL.
But at least you have a high IQ.
Note to self: MRAL can’t read more than 160 words at once. It just blows his fucking mind that someone uses so many words.
You’re a clueless twit who, while you may know math, know jack shit about everything else, yet have strong opinions on all this shit you’re clueless about. You actively drive off every woman you’re interested in with your hatred, fail at basic social skills, can’t even fake having an anger problem successfully on the internet, can’t maintain a loving relationship with anyone you’re not actually related to, and know nothing about surviving outside of university.
Oh, and you’re amazingly arrogant and lack all self awareness. I’m pretty sure that you’re one of the worst folks I know, only losing out to the even more disgusting trolls. Get some friends, for your sake. Be a better person.
I’m on a decent scholarship at a very high end university myself, MRAL. Shall we have a measuring contest?
A computer theft ring a couple of years ago at my very LOW end university turned out to be masterminded by a group of Honors students on full-ride scholarships!
The computer theft ring fifteen or sixteen years ago at my very LOW end university turned out to be masteredminded by……the chief of university police.
WHITE MEN ALL!
Also, MRAL, you hate yourself and are miserable.
Yeah, well, I went to a better school than yours for free, fuckstick. And I don’t need THAT to know I’m a better person than you, squirt.
You don’t know shit about how the world works.
And I have a high IQ.
MRAL, you should be careful with that sort of thing. I went to a college for undergrad that every academic I’ve ever met has wished they could’ve gone to. My education is undoubtedly better than yours, if you want to actually learn and understand, rather than just regurgitate what you’ve read in a book. Neener, neener.
Lord, this sort of thing is so stupid, anyway. I’m currently at a state university that was actually used as the ultimate example of a crappy college in a book I read a few years ago. I’m still getting quite a good education, and the experiences and opportunities I have here far outweigh what I could get in any college back east, and certainly at any Ivy League. You’re only 19, right, MRAL? I can forgive you the academic snobbishness (although probably not the random anger and hatred), but you’d best grow out of it soon. Education is not about where you went. Education is about curiosity, creativity, and taking advantage of every opportunity that you can. Someone willing to do that can learn more at a community college than someone at an Ivy League who is willing to rest on their school’s name.
@Bagelsan – Thanks! 🙂
er “masteredminded” should of course be “masterminded”!
Plus, somebody should introduce MRALWT to the concept of multiple intelligences — getting good grades in controlled test situations (and the IQ test is just that, a controlled and constructed test situation) does not necessarily correlate to all the possible areas of intelligence. For example, I think most of us would rate him rather low on emotional intelligence.
And his writing skills are not that skillful either.
I sucked at math (some blame should be given to the School of Education in my home town which tried a different theory of teaching in the public school every year without, as far as I can recall, any sort of informed consent ever being sought or received, especially in the math and reading classes). I still suck at math, in part because I cannot be arsed to care enough to try to learn about it when I can use technology (online class platform does all the calculating for me as long as I entered the correct percentages).
There are few people who rank highly in all the intelligence areas–and I doubt MRALWT is one of those few.