Well, here’s a new twist on the whole “women love assholes” thing. According to the blogger known as Vox Day – a sort of right-wing/PUA hybrid – the best way for a fella to capture the attention of a comely lass is to rape and murder another comely lass. Yep. He seems to have confused “Game” — that is, pick-up artist trickery — with The Most Dangerous Game. Oh, Vox stops short of recommending that his readers actually go out and murder women, but he argues this women-love-killers argument in all seriousness:
I don’t believe I could recommend this as a strategy for most men, but it is surely educational to learn that raping and killing a woman is demonstrably more attractive to women than behaving like a gentleman. And women, before all the inevitable snowflaking commences, please note that there is absolutely nothing to argue about here. It is an established empirical fact.
His empirical “proof” of this assertion? The fact that some Japanese women have set up online fan clubs for Tatsuya Ichihashi, an accused murderer.
From this one data point, Vox seems to have made a somewhat hasty generalization based on the notion that all women are the same person – that is, if one woman thinks or does something, all women think or do that same thing.
Yes, there are women — and men — who find themselves attracted to vile human beings. Some women idolize murderers. Some men think Ann Coulter is hot. That doesn’t mean that all women idolize murderers or that all men want to get it on with Ms. Coulter. It just means that some people have really, really, really appalling taste.
But let’s just assume for a moment that Vox’s basic premise is true: all women love violent psycopaths,. If you’ want to get with the ladies, but aren’t so hard up for a date that you’re actually willing to resort to homicide, is there some other way you convey what a violent psychopath you are to the ladies of the world? Yep, says Vox:
[I]f you are being introduced to a woman you find attractive, she will be more attracted to you if you slap her in the face without warning and walk away without explanation than if you smile and tell her that you are very pleased to meet her. Now this, being a mere hypothesis, can be argued. And tested, if you’re feeling especially scientific this weekend.
I really hope none of his readers take him up on this.
Is Vox being altogether serious about this? Yes and no. About the idea that women love killers? Absolutely serious. About actually assaulting women? He’s a bit more cagey. On his blog Alpha Game, Vox elaborates:
Women find it sexier for you to rape and kill a woman than putting them on pedestals and being a nice guy. I’m not saying that you should rape and kill anyone, but I would recommend, at the very least, dropping the nice guy routine and pushing over the pedestals.
Women have plenty of positive attributes. But they’re not angels, and when it comes to what sexually attracts them, even the nice, well-bred ones are more insanely twisted, from the male perspective, than the average serial killer.
So apparently the only truly happy couples in the world are those in which both partners think like serial killers.
What a romantic!
@ kathleenb – your cat is a Mau? No wonder she’s so pretty.
I think someone is running a backyard breeding operation for Maine Coons in my area, because there are tons of them showing up at shelters. Which is a shame, because they’re lovely cats, but hard to adopt because not everyone wants a cat that will be at least 15 pounds.
Cassandra: We’re pretty sure Kami is mostly mau – she has the skin flap and the spots. And her eyes are starting to go from amber to that gooseberry green – kinda freaky looking, I must say.
And lots of the neighborhood cats are spotted with green eyes – some look like they’re mixed with tortie and a few look like maybe orange tiger? They all have the forehead scarab, too.
OMG, we’re talking about cats! Do cat ladies make Hengist feel all castrated the same way women in academia apparently do?
My new kitty has yellow eyes and it’s weird, that freaked me out at first (I chose her because of personality, the fact that she’s gorgeous is just a bonus), but I’ve gotten used to it. Red eyes I think might bother me – I think that might be why I find Neopolitan Mastiffs a bit scary even though I’m not scared of Mastiffs in general.
Wait? How do cat ladies in academia fit into this? How can we measure their effect on Hengist?
I think the theory goes that if you’re a woman and you own any more than zero cats, it means you are desperately lonely and miserable and always will be. If you’re a man, it means you’re gay or secretly a woman. All evidence to the contrary is to be ignored.
And if you’re David, it means that you have been forced into cat ownership by women’s refusal to be fluffy and compliant.
HOLD ON:
What evidence do we have that DKM isn’t a housecat? It all fits! The fur, the hatred of most humans, the vindictiveness, the smugness…
The brain the size of a walnut, the manic energy…
I dunno, that sounds kind of insulting to cats… My cats don’t demand absolute submission of anyone. That counts as a point in their favor, in my eyes.
My theory is that David is actually Mr Bigglesworth. They defrosted him, gave him a laptop, and never apologised about the whole sending into space thing, and now he’s pissed.
Tell me you’re kidding. THere is no way anyone bought a *CAT* because *WOMEN* weren’t sufficiently compliant.
Hey, nobody ever said that his decision making skills were impressive.
HENGIST: You’re the middle-aged lesbian women’s studies teacher who avoids men, right?
HELLKELL: Not even close* but keeping trying. Your little insults are cute. Not tired memes at all, sir!
*waves hands and jumps up and down*
I’m the 55 year old QUEER (NOT lesbian) woman who is an academic (NOT women’s studies, my university doesn’t have it, so I’m doing all the queer stuff in a humanities department) whose partner is yes a woman and who does not have any major involvements with men in my personal life (too boring and all want mommies) although I have perfectly collegial relationships with other faculty! So suck on it, we’re both women, we’re in a life partnership, and neither one of us is a lesbian, neener neener neener (nothing wrong with lesbians of course, but we’re just not one–there is more to sexuality than hetero/homosexual, ya know! Or, well, Hengist doesn’t know of course).
So maybe he remembers MEEEEEEEEEEE!
And I don’t give dating advice.
Because I never really dated. It was the 70s, what can I say. We just went out in groups, drank, and had sex with each other. Especially on the tequila nights.
Then I gave up sex with men in the 1980s, because, well, BORING.
CATZ!
We have five at the moment (just lost my lovely 18 year old Tamar two days ago).
But at our height of animal rescue-dom, we had 13. All indoor.
And four outdoor dogs (we’re down to 2 now). (They’re in the office with me as I type).
We stopped rescuing a few years back so we could retire and move out of Texas without um double digit animals.
We r cat ladiez!
That’s the other thing – even if everyone here did fit Hengist’s stereotypes, what’s wrong with academics, or cat ladies, or lesbians? I quite like many people in all 3 categories. These are only insults if you think that all women are fixated not only on getting a man, but specifically on getting a man like Hengist. Which, um, no thanks, I’ll pass.
I’m sorry for your loss.
ithiliana: So sorry to hear about your kitty!
On the subject of cats, I have been having stray cats come to my backyard for 6 years now. I do get the traps and everything, but some…I like to keep, and they’re nice companions.
That’s probably a bad thing I’m doing, though.
red_locker: Both of our cats are former street kitties. Stranger came to us front-declawed and fixed and maybe a year old. Kami we found next to the house after my sister’s dog scared her mother away. I wouldn’t trade either of them for the world, even if Kami is a little bit crazy. The main problems we had were fleas and worms. Fleas just took work and patience, the worms… the chemical dewormers give Stranger seizures. We finally had to get food-grade fossil shell flour and mix it into their food. Worked like a charm!
Ithiliana: I’m sorry for your loss.
I have read Kathryrn Joyce’s book Quiverfull and it did an excellent job describing the courtship rituals one would need to do to marry a woman from their movement. Quiverfull groups tend to be cautious about exposing their members to outside influences, so it is very difficult to get permission to begin courting a young woman unless you are yourself from another Quiverfull family. A potential suitor for a young woman is supposed to write a letter to the father expressing his dedication to Quiverfull goals, especially the requirement to not use birth control and be open to a large family. The letter is also supposed to show how the man intends to financially provide for his wife and future children, since it is not allowed for their women to work outside the home.
If the father approves of the suitor, he will then allow the two to begin courting. When they are courting, they are engaged and go on dates with chaperones. The chaperones are there to prevent any sex from occurring before the wedding. The courtship stage ends with the wedding. If you’re wondering what say the young woman has in this, it just depends on if her father is kind enough to consider her desires when he makes the choice. She could also leave the church to make her own choices, but that’s very difficult for someone that has been raised in such a cult like environment her whole life.
If a man really wants to marry a traditional, submissive virgin, then he could join other strict fundamentalist churches to find one. Many of them, like the mega churches, have that type of women but they also allow their users to use contraception. I’m not sure many of the men that complain about a lack of submissive women would actually want to commit to the Quiverfull lifestyle, especially the part about having very large families.
I’m sorry Ithiliana. It’s very hard to lose a kitty. I actually have to have my cat put down, probably on Monday.
Ithiliana and Dracula, I’m sorry about your kitties.
Hengist:
That’s not dating advice, though. Nor is it man-blaming.
But what’s wrong with “don’t be creepy” as advice, anyway?