Creepy Reddit Comment of the Day: Flower Girl Edition

I don’t see what’s so appalling about my posts in this thread.

“This is pretty amazing, because honestly, I’ve thought the EXACT same thing before. Once there was this girl in my class who had quite an attractive face but was pretty chubby. Not too much but enough so she clearly wouldn’t be able to ride the carousel. I thought about how (relatively) easy it would be to befriend and enter into a relationship with her. Then push her to exercise a bit, let her get hot, and you have a hot girlfriend with minimal effort. I’m actually surprised PUAs haven’t incorporated this into Game more.

You’d have to put up with fucking a fatty until she got hot, though, is the problem. The ideal here would be to maintain a slowly growing friendship which “makes the leap” just as she gets her BMI down. Of course, that requires very precise and advanced social skills, beyond that of most people.”

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Seriously, dude?

Hoooooooooly fuck, I feel so skeeved out. And I’m a guy.

@MRAL

And she’d have to demean herself to having sex with you, a man who only cares about her arm candy potential, even after she did all of the hard work of losing weight. Not quite the reward you seem to think it is.

@ Pandurata

I used to get that a lot when i was still playing competitive ice hockey. I’d be in the gym every day for at least 2 hours, I’d practice 3-4 nights a week and play at least one game on the weekend. Of course I put on 20 pounds of muscle during the winter and ate enough to fuel it. I was a size 8, very healthy and in great shape. But, for some reason, I had to hear about how I should be watching my weight and eating less, because I was no longer a size 2 and that was a huge problem.

Oddly enough, when I’d go back home during the winter, I’d get hit on a LOT more. Definitely an odd experience to be looked down upon in one country and cherished in another.

A blossoming of pedals, like a bicycle that you can fuck.

(Yes, I know that the creepy weirdness is the real issue, but I do have to wonder what the English language ever did to sexist dudes that they feel the need to constantly abuse it.)

MRAL, just flip the genders and imagine a woman is talking about this short creepy beta guy, and all the things she’d have to change about him before she could touch him without vomiting. Get it now?

Hey, I know you feel grand about yourself and all, but It’s usually not good practice to masturbate in public.

Just saying.

Um… it’s a good thing I don’t do that then? Sorry, if that was a joke I didn’t get it.

MRAL, just flip the genders and imagine a woman is talking about this short creepy beta guy, and all the things she’d have to change about him before she could touch him without vomiting. Get it now?

It’d never happen. She’d just ignore the short beta guy without ever giving him a chance.

Meh. My girlfriend used to tell me all the time that I’d be more attractive if I lost a little weight. Family, too. I never resented them, they were right. I guess this doesn’t bother me so much because I’m used to “tough love” versus PC coddling.

You’d have more of a point if this guy was not talking about complete fucking strangers. (I still don’t think you’d be right, exactly, since being thin is given ridiculous importance in society, especially for women, so it’s understandable that people would get upset if told to lose weight. But at least you’d be less wrong.)

An example: Sometimes, my boyfriend asks me to dress up when we’re going out to a party. I almost never wear dresses or makeup or really anything “sexy” in everyday life, but if he asks me to, I’ll consider it, because I love him and want to make him happy. (And LARPing is fun.) On the other hand, if a stranger came up to me and told me that I’d be real hot if I’d wear a dress sometimes, baby, I’d be creeped out and offended, because it’s none of that person’s goddamn business.

Once there was this girl in my class who had quite an attractive face but was pretty chubby. Not too much but enough so she clearly wouldn’t be able to ride the carousel.

I’m chubby. I have a wonderful boyfriend and am dating another great guy. We all get laid a lot. (Polyamory is teh awesome.) I suspect that none of us exist in your universe, MRAL, but just trust me when I say that fat people and others you don’t personally find attractive are not all sexless and pining for your approval.

Yeesh. It’s stuff like this that makes me doubt MRAL’s ability to change. The emotional outbursts are bad enough, but this kind of calculating, predatory talk is a whole other level of skeeviness.

Chocominties, have you ever read “Lady Oracle” by Margaret Atwood? There’s a similar dysfunctional mother-daughter relationship at the core of it. It’s a very funny book, but that part is not played for laughs.

MRAL, your plan might work, but you’re forgetting that most women – even “fatties” – don’t like to spend time with men who clearly loathe them. You might want to tone down the rage before giving it a shot.

MRAL, your plan assumes too much.

–that you could approach a girl with this idea without her calling security
–that she would go for it in the first place
–that she would be insecure enough to throw you a bone after she lost weight
–that she can’t think for herself

That last one is the part that always trips guys like you up.

There is a subspecialty of assholes who do this “grooming” thing. Modeling agents come to mind. Also Ike Turner and Louis Prima and Bobby Brown who used violence to keep “their” women in place even as they succeeded in their musical careers.

Ironically some others are “feeders,” who groom women to be heavy, not thin.

You mean I can get with a guy who’ll start a relationship with me, while manipulating me into his ideal image of what a woman’s body should look like, all the while mentally and literally puking at my current figure?

Gonna break my engagement and get me some of that!

/sarcasm

(I do hope it’s thick enough that readers don’t really need the “sarcasm” tag, but one can never be too careful)