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Feminism or death?

Here’s the entirety of a recent post by an MRA who calls himself Snark:

Uh, dude, I think you’ve confused “feminists” with “Daleks.”

Our new friend Fidelbogen thought this was such a brilliant idea he devoted a post to it himself, declaring:

Such economy, such concision. …

Really now, we wouldn’t go far wrong to make our rhetoric revolve around this above all, and very little more. The saying is deceptively simple, for it goes deep and reaches into many corners.

It puts them on the spot, and nails them there.

I knew Fidelbogen was a bit of a pompous doofus, but this is a whole new level of stupidity for him. I don’t even know what to say about something this idiotic.

Also, check out the comments to Snark’s piece. There’s something about potatoes you kind of have to see to believe.

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kirbywarp
kirbywarp
13 years ago

@NWOslave:

Well, you seem to have no trouble copy-pasting the same tired assertions, bland sarcasm, and witless humor… Why not let others have some fun for a bit? 😛

NWOslave
NWOslave
13 years ago

Here, I’ll help drive up the numbers.

Blah, Blah, Blah, Blah, Blah, Hate.
Blah, Blah, Blah, Blah, Blah, Denial.
Blah, Blah, Blah, Blah, Blah, Misogyny.
Blah, Blah, Blah, Blah, Blah, Lizards.
Blah, Blah, Blah, Blah, Blah, Strawman.
Blah, Blah, Blah, Blah, Blah, Men are bad.
Blah, Blah, Blah, Blah, Blah, Women are good.
Blah, Blah, Blah, Blah, Blah, Sends internet hugs.
Blah, Blah, Blah, Blah, Blah, Agree’s with other 12 posters.
Blah, Blah, Blah, Blah, Blah, Ad Homenim.
Blah, Blah, Blah, Blah, Blah, Flounce.

Spearhafoc
13 years ago

A 100 comment’s by the same 12 people, spouting the same hatred. Awesome!

“A 100 comment’s”?

What are you trying to say here, NWOslave?

English, motherfucker, do you speak it?

kirbywarp
kirbywarp
13 years ago

@NWOslave:

Blah, Blah, Blah, Blah, Blah, Hate.
Blah, Blah, Blah, Blah, Blah, Denial.
Blah, Blah, Blah, Blah, Blah, Misogyny.
Blah, Blah, Blah, Blah, Blah, Lizards.
Blah, Blah, Blah, Blah, Blah, Strawman.
Blah, Blah, Blah, Blah, Blah, Men are bad.
Blah, Blah, Blah, Blah, Blah, Women are good.
Blah, Blah, Blah, Blah, Blah, Sends internet hugs.
Blah, Blah, Blah, Blah, Blah, Agree’s with other 12 posters.
Blah, Blah, Blah, Blah, Blah, Ad Homenim.
Blah, Blah, Blah, Blah, Blah, Flounce.

Hmm, I don’t recall that you ever sent hugs or agreed with people… but thanks for tl:dr-ing your usual nonsense. 🙂

NWOslave
NWOslave
13 years ago

@Spearhafoc

Hey spearhafoc, Kirbywarp said,”… wut… wut iz going on here?”

Is that proper English?
Why not correct everyones English with a little, ” English, motherfucker, do you speak it?”

I guess we know who you support at all costs. Feminists. This would be hive-mind syndrome.

Spearhafoc
13 years ago

Why not correct everyones English with a little, ” English, motherfucker, do you speak it?”

I didn’t correct his English because I understood what he was trying to say. He merely said it using idiomatic Internet slang. Your drivel, on the other hand, I couldn’t make head or tail of.

Also, it should be “everyone’s”.

kirbywarp
kirbywarp
13 years ago

Spearhafoc’s just trolling you about as hard as you’re trolling him with your pathological abuse of ‘s, NWO.

RevSpinnaker
13 years ago

Oh, by the way, what IS the difference between “feminists and daleks?”

kirbywarp
kirbywarp
13 years ago

@RevSpinnaker:

Daleks want to eliminate all human life, feminists just want to eliminate men.

Or is it “promote equality and eliminate discrimination based on gender in both social and professional spheres?” Can’t quite remember at the moment…

RevSpinnaker
13 years ago

Let’s not forget Blah, Blah, Blah, Blah, my cat.
Or, music video, Blah, Blah, Blah, Blah…

Spearhafoc
13 years ago

Or is it “promote equality and eliminate discrimination based on gender in both social and professional spheres?” Can’t quite remember at the moment…

No, I’m pretty sure the Daleks aren’t into that sort of thing.

kirbywarp
kirbywarp
13 years ago

Dang… Maybe if you stare at a feminist, they can’t oppress men? Obviously that’s why they want to get rid of ogling.

felixBC
felixBC
13 years ago

Whatever you do, don’t blink.

RevSpinnaker
13 years ago

Then there’s Blah, Blah, Blah, Blah, Blah, yeah Rev we all know women abuse children, Blah, Blah, Blah, So what? Blah, Blah Blah, Blah…Like feminists are supposed to solve ALL the problems in the world, Blah, Blah, Blah, Blah, Blah… American women kill more of their own children than any other mothers in the industrialized world… Blah, Blah, Blah, We’re down with that… Blah, Blah, Blah, Blah… And what’s all this bovid fecal matter about “matriarchal oppression”… or this business about the social indoctrination of “pagentized rectal display” (i.e. cheerleading) encouraging violent behavior in men? Are you saying women’s hormonal cycle creates sexual behavioral patterns similar to mountain goats and low-land gorillas? Blah, Bla..Bl. Hmm?

KathleenB
KathleenB
13 years ago

Kirby: Actually, Daleks want to exterminate all non-Dalek life. They’re the epitome. Or something, I’ve never been quite clear on why the floating dustbins want to kill things.

kirbywarp
kirbywarp
13 years ago

KathleenB:

You’ve got me. I actually don’t have Doctor Who knowledge, apart from what I glean from my surroundings… I do know that they are floating dustbins with lasers though… Or at least, I think I do.

That still works for straw-people of feminists though, as I distinctly remember someone trying to argue that feminists don’t want non-feminists to exist.

Moewicus
Moewicus
13 years ago

These self-summaries by RevSpinnaker and NWOslavey…so uncanny!

RevSpinnaker
13 years ago

@felixBC: “Whatever you do, don’t blink.”

Damn, I blinked and now I can’t find my cat!

kirbywarp
kirbywarp
13 years ago

I blinked and ended up outside of my locked room… I’m getting really annoyed with having to break out the spare key.

RevSpinnaker
13 years ago

kirbywarp: I hate when that happens!

Pecunium
13 years ago

Toysoldier: As I said, you are playing games, in an attempt to say, “gotcha”. You have an agenda, it’s to say feminism causes people to do bad things.

Is it possible for someone to say, “feminism made me do it,”? Sure. Is there a doctrinal aspect which is disposed to the abusive behavior you say feminism causes? No.

But you are trying like hell to conflate the two. It’s why you are torturing the language to try and make it so that I said something I didn’t (i.e. no one can ever use feminism as an excuse for bad behavior).

Do I think there are people who use feminism to justify things? Yes. Do I think feminism is doctrinally violent? No.

Are those compatible? Yes. There are people who justify hurting animals in the name of vegitarianism (see, “vegetarian cat food”). That doesn’t mean hurting animals is a tenet of vegetariansim.

And no amount of my admitting that some people will use it as justification will make it so.

Any more than you saying “Feminism promotes abusing people” will make that so.

Which is my final word on this thread. I’m closing the window, and leaving it closed. Whatever specious accusations of my perfidy you wish to contrive are yours to make. The last word is yours.

Molly Ren
13 years ago

“Then there’s Blah, Blah, Blah, Blah, Blah, yeah Rev we all know women abuse children, Blah, Blah, Blah, So what? Blah, Blah Blah, Blah…”

Omg, you ACTUALLY READ WHAT WE WROTE? I wouldn’t have said it over and over so many times if your posts had reflected that in any way, shape, or form.

Thought it’s not that we don’t care about abuse, Rev. We just don’t believe you when you talk about its causes.

Molly Ren
13 years ago

*Though, even

Toysoldier
13 years ago

Pecunium, you did not answer my question. How unsurprising.

Kirbywarp, my point is that feminism can cause bad behavior. However, the broader irony is the hypocrisy feminists engage in. Feminists do the very things they criticize others for doing as they claim to oppose those things.

RevSpinnaker
13 years ago

Barbara Kay, National Post · Oct. 12, 2011 | Last Updated: Oct. 12, 2011 3:08 AM ET
:
“Most rapists were subjected to some form of sexual abuse in childhood. A startling amount is perpetrated by females. Peer-reviewed studies conclude that between 60% to 80% of “rapists, sex offenders and sexually aggressive men” were sexually abused by a female.

And yet it is commonly understood that, except in rare cases, women don’t harbour such impulses. As McGill professor of social work Myriam Denov, who did her PhD thesis on female sex offenders, notes, as recently as 1984, a study proclaimed that “pedophilia does not exist at all in women.”

It exists in spades. According to a 2004 U.S. Department of Education mass study of university students, 57% of students reporting child sexual abuse cited a male offender, and 42% reported a female offender. Interestingly, 65% of the survivors of female abuse who opened up to a therapist, doctor or other professional were not believed on their first disclosure. Overall, 86% of those who tried to tell anyone at all about their experiences were not believed.

According to a 1996 report from the National Center on Child Abuse and Neglect (NCCAN), about 25% of child sexual abuse is committed by women, but that figure may be low, because survivors are far more conflicted and shamed in admitting abuse by their mothers than by fathers. In one study of 17,337 survivors of childhood sexual abuse, 23% reported a female-only perpetrator and 22% reported both male and female. A U.S. Department of Justice report finds that, in 2008, 95% of all youths reporting sexual misconduct by staff member in state juvenile facilities said their victimization experiences included victimization by female personnel, who made up 42% of the staff.”

“If you are neutral in situations of injustice, you have chosen the side of the oppressor.”
Desmond Tutu

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