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Feminism or death?

Here’s the entirety of a recent post by an MRA who calls himself Snark:

Uh, dude, I think you’ve confused “feminists” with “Daleks.”

Our new friend Fidelbogen thought this was such a brilliant idea he devoted a post to it himself, declaring:

Such economy, such concision. …

Really now, we wouldn’t go far wrong to make our rhetoric revolve around this above all, and very little more. The saying is deceptively simple, for it goes deep and reaches into many corners.

It puts them on the spot, and nails them there.

I knew Fidelbogen was a bit of a pompous doofus, but this is a whole new level of stupidity for him. I don’t even know what to say about something this idiotic.

Also, check out the comments to Snark’s piece. There’s something about potatoes you kind of have to see to believe.

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Pecunium
12 years ago

It’s not that they don’t want rape to be reported, but only “Real Rape”®. The problem is all those whiney women, overreacting to not Real Rape®, and getting innocent men suspected of being rapists.

That’s just the most horrible thing in the world.

cynickal
cynickal
12 years ago

It’s not that they don’t want rape to be reported, but only “Real Rape”®.

But then again they don’t even want to actually admit what the consider “Real Rape”®.

darksidecat
12 years ago

Well, non-boiled potatoes are rather hard, they could do a lot of damage at high velocity. Boiling the potatoes would likely lower risk of injury, however, it would also create more issues with getting them to fire properly.

Pecunium
12 years ago

Boiled potatoes, would mash, and stick; they would be steaming, so total depth burns are possible.

Moewicus
Moewicus
12 years ago

Torture fantasies in Snark’s thread: 2
Total comments: 13
Torture fantasies in Manboobz thread: 0
Total comments: ~100
Irony: priceless

blitzgal
12 years ago

Yeah, I never understood why the Duke LaCrosse case is trumpeted as The Worst Injustice Ever. As you said, Shaenon, the accused were exonerated, the accuser was branded a liar, and the prosecutor was fucking disbarred! Seriously, how often does that happen when some poor African American is railroaded on to death row (not that that ever happens…)?

Yeah, I don’t even know any of their names. But I know hers.

Holly Pervocracy
12 years ago

Oooh, here’s my very juiciest revenge fantasy, and this is not a joke:

I think MRAs should be invited to reasonable discussions in which they are encouraged to question their beliefs and presented with alternate points of view.

…while seated in comfortable chairs.

captainbathrobe
12 years ago

Get…THE COMFY CHAIR!!!

zombie rotten mcdonald
12 years ago

You know, weapons of mash destruction.

I hate you.

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Alpha Asshole Cock Carousel
12 years ago

While they’re all saying “the comfy chair”, here’s part two of our special sound quiz.

(Sorry, that quote has been stuck in my head forever, and it needed to come out).

captainbathrobe
12 years ago

“What famous person is this getting up in the morning?”

captainbathrobe
12 years ago

Yes, it was the film director Visconti. Five points. ‘An Italian film director’ is not sufficient.

AbsintheDexterous
AbsintheDexterous
12 years ago

Even mushy boiled potatoes would probably slide down your body and lose their heat fast enough to not seriously hurt you.

As a veteran potato salad maker, no. Those suckers retain heat pretty well, and if we’re talking about just out of the pot boiled, they’re really fucking hot. I’ve been burned by a potato for trying to take it before it was cool enough to handle.

Which makes the hot boiled potato gun thing rather cruel than just funny. That shit would really hurt. Not lethal, but I would certainly consider it horrible.

Holly Pervocracy
12 years ago

I made baked potatoes today and I was able to handle them bare-handed (for a second or two at a time) right out of the oven.

However, they were dry and solid; maybe a wet mushy potato would be burnier.

Pecunium
12 years ago

Holly, in their skins, they are hot but it’s not the same as if you stuck your hand into a mashed potato. Add the impact injuries… it’s a really nasty torture.

I know far too much of what makes torture work, and this is a really nasty one.

zombie rotten mcdonald
12 years ago

As a veteran potato salad maker,

YOU MAKE POTATO SALAD OUT OF VETERANS? WHAT KIND OF MONSTER ARE YOU?

zombie rotten mcdonald
12 years ago

I know far too much of what makes torture work, and this is a really nasty one.

I also get the impression that the intent is to leave few visible bruises.

kariface
kariface
12 years ago

@Holly – yea, because the water in the potato turns to steam on your hands. It’s the same reason that you don’t handle hot pans with wet cloths.

hellkell
hellkell
12 years ago

I have given way too much headspace to this potato thing–if they really wanted it to hurt, they wouldn’t boil them or bake them, they’d microwave the snot out of ’em. The potatoes would keep their shape and be hotter than hell.

Holly Pervocracy
12 years ago

I still maintain that potatoes wouldn’t work in a tennis-ball launcher. The kind I know of use two rollers spaced tennis-ball-diameter apart, and I don’t think something non-tennis-ball-shaped would go through it correctly.

At this point I’m honestly wishing they’d just said they’d punch her. It’s more honest and less creepily creative. And it wouldn’t raise all these questions.

hellkell
hellkell
12 years ago

What they need is a spud gun.

OK, I’m evil.

Holly Pervocracy
12 years ago

Getting off mechanics for a second–the idea of hurting someone “until she recants feminism” is its own kind of horrifying.

What would that recantation have to consist of, exactly?

I know they think it’s a political party and that she could shred up her membership card, but I define feminism as the belief that all genders are equally human. I really, really don’t want to recant that.

But anyway I’d just recant it real quick to get them to stop, then go on my merry way.

…they would let me go on my merry way, right?

…right?

oh god

thebionicmommy
thebionicmommy
12 years ago

But anyway I’d just recant it real quick to get them to stop, then go on my merry way.

Even if someone has no moral qualms about torturing someone else, their method of changing someone’s mind is still not effective. After the first potato, I’d tell them anything they want to hear. I’d confess to crimes committed in the Dark Ages. In my mind, though, I’d continue to think whatever I want. It’s impossible to physically force someone to think differently.

Holly Pervocracy
12 years ago

It’s impossible to physically force someone to think differently.

Sadly, this might not be 100% true. But when your methods are as crude as “I’m going to throw potatoes at you until you change your mind,” yeah, that’s not going to make a lot of true believers.

Pecunium
12 years ago

Holly: you have just described the “Torturer’s Dilemma”, which the Church resolved hundreds of years ago.

I don’t say they came up with the right response, but they had some logical rationalisations to support the solution they came to.

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