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Feminism or death?

Here’s the entirety of a recent post by an MRA who calls himself Snark:

Uh, dude, I think you’ve confused “feminists” with “Daleks.”

Our new friend Fidelbogen thought this was such a brilliant idea he devoted a post to it himself, declaring:

Such economy, such concision. …

Really now, we wouldn’t go far wrong to make our rhetoric revolve around this above all, and very little more. The saying is deceptively simple, for it goes deep and reaches into many corners.

It puts them on the spot, and nails them there.

I knew Fidelbogen was a bit of a pompous doofus, but this is a whole new level of stupidity for him. I don’t even know what to say about something this idiotic.

Also, check out the comments to Snark’s piece. There’s something about potatoes you kind of have to see to believe.

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Hengist
Hengist
13 years ago

Also, saying “oh, women just think they’re perpetual victims!” belittles the real issues women go through simply for being women and that in and of itself is oppressive. Don’t believe me? What If I said to you “God, why do you have to always be a perpetual victim! It just makes you hate women/feminists!” You’d think I was kind of an asshole, right?

Small comment: That’s kind of funny considering that the standard feminist response to any man’s complaint is a variation of “stop whining”.

Toysoldier
13 years ago

We’re arguing that her feminism did not influence her abuse of you anymore than the color of her hair or her job or her height or middle name or her ice cream preferences did.

As noted above, you are arguing a negative. You cannot prove feminism, or any ideology, cannot influence a person’s behavior to the point that the person may commit violence. But if you think you can, please do so.

Flib
Flib
13 years ago

Look, it’s herp derp Toysoldier back with his lack of evidence and inability to challenge empirical fact. Come on you hypocrite liar who never gave a fuck about abuse, you still have failed to prove your first assertion through out all these comments. You keep dancing around.

Still haven’t answered anything really. Same old talking points, same old twists and accusations of others doing exactly what you do: You should rename yourself infinite strawman works. That is all you keep doing.

cynickal
cynickal
13 years ago

Let’s just apply Toysoldier to all things.
For instance, MRM influences men to shoot up judges offices and set themselves on fire.

…Oh, wait.

CassandraSays
13 years ago

Also, MRA doctrine states that all members must fill condoms with purple powder and throw them around in their country’s parliaments. They must also dress up as superheroes and scale historical landmarks while in costume.

KathleenB
KathleenB
13 years ago

And yet TS can’t prove that feminism made his aunt do what she did, so maybe we can all STFU and talk about cats for awhile, eh?

katz
13 years ago

Shorter TS: You can never definitively prove a negative. Therefore, every positive is automatically true.

cynickal
cynickal
13 years ago

And yet TS can’t prove that feminism made his aunt do what she did, so maybe we can all STFU and talk about cats for awhile, eh?

Still missing my retarded kitty. 🙁

Moewicus
Moewicus
13 years ago

I’ve never seen NWOslave and ToySoldier in a room at the same time. They also both have an extraordinary ability to misrepresent what’s right in front of their faces.

All I’m saying is, you can’t prove they’re not the same person.

Bagelsan
Bagelsan
13 years ago

Then you should have no problem finding examples from every prominent men’s rights blog stating that half the population is not fully deserving of human rights. Yeah, that is what I thought. You cannot.

If only there were a blog dedicated to finding quotes about how women don’t deserve full human rights… a blog that often quoted MRAs… hmm…

Unimaginative
Unimaginative
13 years ago

Unimaginative: In other words, “Why, oh why won’t Toysoldier accept my completely unrelated, irrelevant quote as proof feminism does not argue ‘patriarchy is evil’?”

You mean the completely unrelated, irrelevant quote that I pulled directly from the article you linked to as supposed proof that “patriarchy is evil” is a feminist doctrine? That one?

I guess that definitively answers the question of whether you actually read the stuff you link to.

Yeah, let’s go back to cats. Did everyone see that youtube clip of a cat barking out the window, and when it noticed it was being observed, it morphed back into meowing? I’ll try and link it, but I’m really bad at that.

RevSpinnaker
13 years ago

My cat chirps like a bird when he see’s them outside an open window. I had no idea cats were so cool. Like so many things, including me, my mother hated cats. But feminism didn’t make her so hateful, her mother did. My sister turned out the same way, and she became a feminist. To say her era of late 60’s & 70’s feminism didn’t promote misandry is like saying rock ‘n’ roll didn’t promote drug use.

KathleenB
KathleenB
13 years ago

That cat is amazing. And scary. Our Kami makes this funny grating chirp (srsly, I have no idea how else to describe it) when she’s stalking something. It’s a damned good thing she doesn’t have to hunt to live, she’d scare everything away! She also meows to herself when she’s getting ready to make a difficult jump. It took almost a day of pacing and meowing before she worked up the courage to jump up to the stained glass window.

Shora
13 years ago

Small comment: That’s kind of funny considering that the standard feminist response to any man’s complaint is a variation of “stop whining”.

The only time I’ve seen this is when men go on and on about not getting laid enough. So If by “Any man’s complaint” You mean “Complaining about not having access to another persons body when it pleases them” then yea, you’re right.

I don’t really think that’s what any man’s complaint is, though

Bagelsan
Bagelsan
13 years ago

@RevSpinnaker: I’m actually unclear what the point of your story was? Are we supposed to take away that feminism didn’t make your mom hate men, or it did?

RevSpinnaker
13 years ago

Bagelsan: I never said my mother hated men. I said she hated many things including me. I was a little boy, not a man, when the hate started. She used me to get back at my father for cutting off her credit card at Marshall Field’s. It was her generation’s “privilege” to marry for money, just like her mother’s. Thank God women don’t do THAT anymore.

KathleenB
KathleenB
13 years ago

Rev: Lord and Lady, Freud would have a field day with your family!

Dracula
Dracula
13 years ago

“Our Kami makes this funny grating chirp (srsly, I have no idea how else to describe it)…”

That’s something cats do to better catch their prey’s scent. They rapidly draw air in and out of their nasal passages to absorb more scent particles.

KathleenB
KathleenB
13 years ago

Dracula: Ah, interesting. I guess that’s the first time I’ve ever heard it happen. Though, are they doing that when they kind of wrinkle their noses and curl their upper lips?

Bagelsan
Bagelsan
13 years ago

Rev: Lord and Lady, Freud would have a field day with your family!

I kinda want to hand him a cigar and wave him toward a couch… and charge him $500 an hour.

Dracula
Dracula
13 years ago

KathleenB: I think so, yeah. How loud it is depends on how hard they’re doing it.

RevSpinnaker
13 years ago

@KathleenB:

“Rev: Lord and Lady, Freud would have a field day with your family!”

No doubt.

@Bagelsan:

“I kinda want to hand him a cigar and wave him toward a couch… and charge him $500 an hour.”

And who says feminists are mean-spirited, cynical and vindictive when it comes to maternal child abuse against boys.

red_locker
13 years ago

“And who says feminists are mean-spirited, cynical and vindictive when it comes to maternal child abuse against boys.”

Who says, indeed.

Bagelsan
Bagelsan
13 years ago

Vindictive? You don’t have to accept the cigar if you hate it that much! XD

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