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Feminism or death?

Here’s the entirety of a recent post by an MRA who calls himself Snark:

Uh, dude, I think you’ve confused “feminists” with “Daleks.”

Our new friend Fidelbogen thought this was such a brilliant idea he devoted a post to it himself, declaring:

Such economy, such concision. …

Really now, we wouldn’t go far wrong to make our rhetoric revolve around this above all, and very little more. The saying is deceptively simple, for it goes deep and reaches into many corners.

It puts them on the spot, and nails them there.

I knew Fidelbogen was a bit of a pompous doofus, but this is a whole new level of stupidity for him. I don’t even know what to say about something this idiotic.

Also, check out the comments to Snark’s piece. There’s something about potatoes you kind of have to see to believe.

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RevSpinnaker
13 years ago

VoiP: I meant ALL CHILDREN including boys, as in “stop domestic violence against girls AND boys” as apposed to just stopping “violence against women & girls.” Will this years Vagina Monologues include maternal abuse against boys? Or is that still O.K. with women?

VoiP
VoiP
13 years ago

Will this years Vagina Monologues include maternal abuse against boys? Or is that still O.K. with women?

As soon as the Vagina Monologues includes material on global warming, likewise terrible and likewise outside the scope of a play about the personal histories of a number of women.

VoiP
VoiP
13 years ago

Also, everything that’s not in the Vagina Monologues is something of which women approve. Like that mass civilian death I mentioned earlier!
THIRTY YEARS’ WAR YAY

redlocker
13 years ago

So…let’s see…

Maly Daly, The Vagina Monologues (for some reason), S.C.U.M. Manifesto (along with Valerie “All I ever fucking did in my life was shot some prick called Andy Warhol” Solanas, along with lots of constant, “Lalalala, I can’t hear you, all feminists are evil and anyone who says otherwise must be girl. Only girls would argue against intelligent but oppressed little me”

Am I missing anything?

Moewicus
Moewicus
13 years ago

Protip: they’re the Vagina Monologues, not the Vagina And Also Penis Monologues.

VoiP
VoiP
13 years ago

Am I missing anything?

Motherhood is oppression. Looks like someone woke up from naptime early.
*puts on sunglasses*
YYYYEEEEEEEAAAAAAHHHHH

RevSpinnaker
13 years ago

But I thought ALL vagina people were against ALL violence because their vaginas made them empathetic and nurturing.

VoiP
VoiP
13 years ago

But I thought ALL vagina people were against ALL violence because their vaginas made them empathetic and nurturing.

Have we gotten to you? You’re babbling.
I mean, worse than usual.

redlocker
13 years ago

“Protip: they’re the Vagina Monologues, not the Vagina And Also Penis Monologues.”

D’oh! Thanks. 😀

“But I thought ALL vagina people were against ALL violence because their vaginas made them empathetic and nurturing.”

…this, on the other hand, I don’t know what to make of.

RevSpinnaker
13 years ago

“Maly Daly, The Vagina Monologues (for some reason), S.C.U.M. Manifesto (along with Valerie “All I ever fucking did in my life was shot some prick called Andy Warhol” Solanas, along with lots of constant, “Lalalala, I can’t hear you”

If I were a feminist I guess I would want to forget that herstory too.

redlocker
13 years ago

“If I were a feminist I guess I would want to forget that herstory too.”

…What?

Just…

What?

RevSpinnaker
13 years ago

Maybe I misinterpeted Eve Ensler and Jane Fonda on the Today Show in 2008. But the phrase “stop violence against women & girls” sounds alot more sexist than “stop violence against women and children.”

But of course if we included boys in the equation we’d have to include female perpetrators as well.

katz
13 years ago

Yeah, rev’s last statement is mystifying. No feminist in the universe would agree with that.

katz
13 years ago

He’s spouting nonsense faster than I can catch up. No matter; my previous comment stands regardless of which of his statements it succeeds.

redlocker
13 years ago

“Maybe I misinterpeted Eve Ensler and Jane Fonda on the Today Show in 2008. But the phrase “stop violence against women & girls” sounds alot more sexist than “stop violence against women and children.”

But of course if we included boys in the equation we’d have to include female perpetrators as well.”

At this point, I’m amazed that DSC, Voip and others have the will to counter your condescending/stupid act, because you have been saying the same thing, but in different words.

If this is what MRAs call “Debate”, I would hate to see what they call, “Activism” (Oh, wait, I’ve already seen THAT).

RevSpinnaker
13 years ago

“No matter; my previous comment stands regardless of which of his statements it succeeds.”

No point in listening, you’ve already got your responce.

Moewicus
Moewicus
13 years ago

Be It Resolved:

That from this time forward, all feminist blogs, plays, movies, novels, youtube videos, pamphlets, fliers, stamps, press releases, one-woman shows, two-woman shows, monologues and dialogues (vaginal and non-vaginal), formal speeches, casual conversations, and megaphone-assisted announcements be submitted in advance to RevSpinnaker so that the appropriate quota of mentions of maternal child abuse, as determined by RevSpinnaker, may be inserted therein.

RevSpinnaker
13 years ago

“If this is what MRAs call “Debate”, I would hate to see what they call, “Activism” (Oh, wait, I’ve already seen THAT).”

I’m not an MRA so I’d like to see that too. Any citations.. videos…

RevSpinnaker
13 years ago

Moewicus | September 30, 2011 at 1:46 am Be It Resolved:

That from this time forward, all feminist blogs, plays, movies, novels, youtube videos, pamphlets, fliers, stamps, press releases, one-woman shows, two-woman shows, monologues and dialogues (vaginal and non-vaginal), formal speeches, casual conversations, and megaphone-assisted announcements be submitted in advance to [the super-sensitive totally empathetic board of feminist anti-child abuse advocates] that the appropriate quota of mentions of maternal child abuse, as determined by [that board,] may be inserted therein.

VoiP
VoiP
13 years ago

But of course if we included boys in the equation we’d have to include female perpetrators as well.

Are girls abused by abusive mothers?

Also, for the last time, NOBODY’S DENYING THAT WOMEN COMMIT CHILD ABUSE. We just don’t think that motherhood = oppression, nor do we think that the Today Show is at the cutting edge of feminist theory.

katz
13 years ago

I rest my case. It’s another comment that my comment-before-last could follow perfectly logically.

VoiP
VoiP
13 years ago

Maybe girls aren’t abused at all; maybe “matriarchy” for you means the terrifying fact that, given that some males are very young, they are controlled of necessity by women. That must eat you up inside, huh?

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
13 years ago

I see that Toy Soldier is still attempting to hold the entire feminist movement responsible for the fact that his aunt was a horrible person. Oh well, I suppose his current argument is at least a slight improvement on the old one that he knew, just knew, that all feminists secretly approve of child abuse.

His brand of crazy is at least somewhat understandable as a result of trauma, though (lifelong paranoia about feminists caused by PTSD would be my hey-I-have-a-degree-in-psychology guess). Our “matriarchy means whatever I say it means” friend, otoh, is just a garden variety internet loony. I vote that we spam him with links to Timecube guy – they would probably get along.

comrade svilova
comrade svilova
13 years ago

Why can’t women address women’s issues sometimes? The Vagina Monologues is about women, but other feminist groups address child abuse. Does every feminist have to fix every problem in the world? Sigh. There is no logic here.

If men put on a play looking at men’s personal stories of relationship violence, raising awareness that men are sometimes victimized too, starting that dialogue…that would be great! Why is the demand that a women’s play about women HAS to include men? Why can’t men take some initiative and create their own play?

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