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Feminism or death?

Here’s the entirety of a recent post by an MRA who calls himself Snark:

Uh, dude, I think you’ve confused “feminists” with “Daleks.”

Our new friend Fidelbogen thought this was such a brilliant idea he devoted a post to it himself, declaring:

Such economy, such concision. …

Really now, we wouldn’t go far wrong to make our rhetoric revolve around this above all, and very little more. The saying is deceptively simple, for it goes deep and reaches into many corners.

It puts them on the spot, and nails them there.

I knew Fidelbogen was a bit of a pompous doofus, but this is a whole new level of stupidity for him. I don’t even know what to say about something this idiotic.

Also, check out the comments to Snark’s piece. There’s something about potatoes you kind of have to see to believe.

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Leo Salloum
Leo Salloum
13 years ago

@Rutee — You seem to be right. As Holly says, they seem to make little distinction between disagreement and blood-lust. My reason for picking up on it is the peculiar ‘right to exist’ rather than ‘right to live’ language. It may be plain old illiteracy, but typically someone who is afraid of being exterminated asserts his or her right to life. I am likely being enormously over-pedantic, aren’t I?

Oh well, I’m accustomed to this problem. Go about your business in peace.

hellkell
hellkell
13 years ago

@Holly–they’re never funny because there’s too much real (however misguided) anger behind them.

Holly Pervocracy
Holly Pervocracy
13 years ago

One more comment for the moment–can you imagine the ruckus MRAs would raise if any feminist, anywhere, made anything like the potato torture comment? We’d be hearing about it well into the 2030s.

(At least it would add some variety. That one “Dear Men” essay and that handful of Andrea Dworkin quotes are wearing awfully threadbare.)

But the fact that an MRA said something violent just means that it’s Thursday.

Fatman
Fatman
13 years ago

Yes, as a feminist, I recognize the right to existence of people who are not feminists. I do not understand how stating that puts me on the spot, nor how that statement nails me to that spot. I am at a loss.

Rutee Katreya
13 years ago

I am likely being enormously over-pedantic, aren’t I?

Maybe not as much as you think. For a movement that claims we want to actually genocide- sorry, gendercide, them they don’t really act like a movement worried about government intervention. I mean right now every mosque that gets a violent whacko reports that guy to the FBI. They don’t shelter him, they chuck him out. Kind of puts the lie to the idea of a feminist-dominated government that suppresses disagreement. As to actual black helicopters coming to exterminate, well… their shit is publically viewable. If they were worried, it wouldn’t be, and would be on very secure servers likely located somewhere else entirely. Actual civil rights movements in the west are very open, yes, but the ones that actually fear imprisonment aren’t typically in the west, and are not so much so.

So yeah, why would this guy talk about hte right to life? He doesn’t think dying in the service of the MRM is a possibility.

hellkell
hellkell
13 years ago

Fatman, the real question is does that statement hit the nail on the button? XD

Moewicus
Moewicus
13 years ago

I think Herr Snark forgot to put “straw” before “feminists”. Reading Snark’s blog, it is evident that he and Saint Fidelbogenus are referring to Straw Feminists, not real feminists. It is a peculiarity of Straw Persons in general that they are remarkably easy to put on the spot. Pretty much wherever you want to put them, really.

Pecunium
13 years ago

Do non-feminists have the right to exist?

Yes.

Does the MRA extend the same courtesy to feminists?

Let’s ask Meller.

(do I even want to know about this potato thing?)

Bostonian
13 years ago

He is basically saying he would pelt a woman with hot potatoes until she recants feminism. Launched from a tennis ball gun.

Because MRAs are so peaceful and reasonable.

Bostonian
13 years ago

While she is tied up, of course.

Pecunium
13 years ago

I see. So, we can add sadistic to the list of traits the MRM doesn’t disapprove of.

Bostonian
13 years ago

I think sadism is a plus in MRA circles.

Bostonian
13 years ago

Well, non consensual sadism really.

Sharculese
13 years ago

uh he said he was just kidding. why are you taking him so seriously just because he put time into imagining an complicated and over-the-top device for torturing his opponents into agreeing with him.

gosh, its like a guy cant even share his petulant revenge fantasies anymore.

NullPointer
NullPointer
13 years ago

I’ve got to hand it to the potato guy: it’s not every day I come across a sexual fetish that i have never heard of before. Pelting someone with hot boiled potatoes fired from tennis ball shooting machine is at least original…

hellkell
hellkell
13 years ago

I know, Sharculese, I just lighten up and enjoy the high-speed hot potato torture!

hellkell
hellkell
13 years ago

^should

zombie rotten mcdonald
13 years ago

it’s not every day I come across a sexual fetish that i have never heard of before

And they call US the degenerates…

Linds
13 years ago

I don’t know. Fidelbogen’s foot-fetishy torture seems like it would be a lot easier to implement.

kmcakes
kmcakes
13 years ago

I keep trying to figure out who Fidelbogen reminds me of with his laughably trying-waaaay-too-hard-to-be-pretentious buffoonery. Then it dawned on me. He’s totally Ignatius from the book “A Confederacy of Dunces”.

cynickal
cynickal
13 years ago

If der are no moor anti-feemeemeests ver vould Hy get my new hat vrom?

shaenon
13 years ago

A Confederacy of Dunces is the story of what people you meet on the Internet did before the Internet. I love that book.

Shora
13 years ago

Yes. Some of my best friends aren’t feminists 😛

Seriously, the only people who would look at a question like this an say “Ooooh, that will put them on the spot!” are the kind of people who feel put on the spot when asked if they disagree with violence and murder.

redlocker
13 years ago

“Seriously, the only people who would look at a question like this an say “Ooooh, that will put them on the spot!” are the kind of people who feel put on the spot when asked if they disagree with violence and murder.”

Funny thing is, when someone with violent rhetoric similar to MRAs (if they’re MRAs themselves) does a violent act, THAT question is what they refuse to answer directly.

evilwhitemalempire
evilwhitemalempire
13 years ago

“I don’t even know what to say about something this idiotic.”

That’s because you can’t think of anything to say.