Recently Kloo2yoo, the founder and longtime moderator of Reddit’s Men’s Rights subreddit, stepped down. The remaining moderator, IgnatiusLoyola, has just announced his successor, a long-time commenter in the subreddit who calls himself AnnArchist. (Despite the female-sounding name, he’s a guy.)
This is an, er, interesting choice, as AnnArchist is a misogynist asshole who thinks that violence against women is hilarious. Indeed, he’s posted in the BeatingWomen subreddit, a thoroughly vile little forum devoted to posting pictures and videos of women being violently assaulted. He says he enjoys this particular subreddit because “I have a sense of humor so I can laugh at it.” Here’s one recent post of his, and another. I don’t know exactly what was in either video, since they’ve both been removed my YouTube, the first for violating the site’s rules against hate speech, the second for its “shocking and disgusting content.” If you look through the comments on these submissions, you may also note that the r/beatingwomen regulars, in addition to being misogynist assholes, are also racist as fuck.
“Welcome AnnArchist,” the_real_misogynist wrote in response to one of these postings, “with posts like that you’ll fit right in here.”
Needless to say, AnnArchist doesn’t find violence by women against men quite so risible.
AnnArchist has also advocated murder (many, many, many times), endorsed vigilantism against a specific young woman, and suggested that false rape accusers should be stoned and/or jailed with the word “liar” tattooed on their faces.
He refers to women as “whores” and “cum dumpsters.” He’s boasted about “persuading” girls to have sex with him after they’ve said “no.” (Meanwhile, he’s said that if he woke up next to a trans woman after being drunkenly “tricked” into sex he would violently assault her.)
Oh, and there’s this bit of wisdom:
If you hyphenate your child’s last name, well its just pathetic. It means the mother was an uncompromising shrew.
I’m sure there are many other vile comments in AnnArchist’s past; these are simply the ones I uncovered with a couple of Reddit searches and by going through his most controversial comments. Indeed, as he himself acknowledges, “there is no limit to the amount of screwed up shit that I’ve posted.”
So why exactly was he picked as a moderator? Is he truly the best that r/mensrights can offer?
Apparently a lot of the r/mensrights regulars think so; most of those who’ve commented so far have praised IgnatiusLoyola’s choice, and have dismissed the critics as “trolls.” (EDITED TO ADD: The tide seems to have turned; there are now more comments up critical of AnnArchist’s promotion to mod, and posts defending Iggy’s decision aee getting some downvotes.)
EDITED TO ADD: Just wanted to highlight one of his comments on the false accuser he was targeting:
I hope she was harassed. Fuck I hope her house was firebombed. Lets be clear, I really will applaud anyone who does anything to her, be it slash her tires or slash her throat.
Here’s the full quote in context. (EDIT: AnnArchist has edited this comment to remove the violent bits. Luckily, someone got a screenshot.)
And here is a comment of his on a specific female judge:
I hope someone kills her.
Bostonian
Feminism acknowledges that women can abuse, but is protects female abusers and oppresses victims under the lie that abuse is something that’s predominantly male on female and male on child.
Go to my blog to see details on how feminism protects female abusers and has done for 40 years.
Feminists always excuse the fact that women are more likely to abuse children by saying “thats just because they spend more time with them”, when confronted by the real research on DV, they always produce some convoluted study by feminists that protect female abusers … feminism openly acts as an abusers lobby but accuses those that oppose that system of being abusers.
I see some other options Holly
Feminists are evil!
Feminists made me do it!
Feminists feminists derp derp derp!
Holly: Catalogue can’t ignore feminism*. His entire schtick is one giant tu quoque about feminism.
*quite apart from feminism being his raison d’être on the intarwebz
The answer to “was it wrong for a major MRA community to pick a very violent person as moderator?” can be yes or no.
It can’t be “BUT FEMINISM.”
“Any MRA posts opposing male on female rape? Any at all? Any opposing male abusers”
the men’s movement wants all victims and abusers to be treated equally, that means opposing them and servicing them equally, that’s what make them anti-feminist, feminism is opposed to equal treatement, that’s why its an open abusers lobby and the mens movement is the egalitarian position.
Oh dear, Catalogue is still at it.
Finding AnnArchist’s posts and the beatingwomen subreddit reprehensible and disgusting isn’t even a super feminist position, it’s basic human decency .
Holly: Sure it can.
The but has to be implied, e.g.: Feminism promotes systemic injustices against men, and perpetrates vile lies against them, therefore an ideological position which is unreasonably violent, out of context, can be a justified argumentem ad absurdem, and when the tables of gender equity have been more levelled such apparent hatreds of women (which are really just misdirected anger at the system) will naturally fade away as the understandable frustrations of the abused men diminishes” /sarcastic irony.
Now I need to go bleach my brain, and soak my fingertips in boiling water.
Holly
One person chose that mod, not a community and many within the community objected,.So stop telling lies. If you ask the question honestly, I will answer you honestly.
That’s nice. So, was it wrong for a major MRA community to pick a very violent person as moderator?
yes/no/FEMINISM
Holly
One person chose that mod, not a community and many within the community objected,.So stop telling lies. If you ask the question honestly, I will answer you honestly.
Also, why dont you hold feminism to the same standards? Are you sexist?
Catalogue, you said “many objected.” Do YOU object?
mras going on about how they’re all for ‘equality’ seems to be the same as racists talking about being ‘color blind’
…did you read the posts that were linked to you? The ones where feminists complain about the atrocious handling of female-on-male rape in mainstream media?
The evidence against your claims is right in front of your eyes. Pretending not to see it doesn’t make it go away.
Treating women as liars at all times is equal treatment?
No link to a non violent MRM post even?
A post about abuse by a womanist, who opposes all physical punishment.
http://www.womanist-musings.com/2011/09/dear-black-community-beating-children.html
Is there any equivalent of that post in the MRM?
I very much hold feminism to the same standards. I have my own feminist blog and sure as shit I never talk about killing anyone, or let anyone talk about killing on there. Anyone laughing at violence–against anyone–would be off of my blog as soon as I could get to a computer. I don’t let people like that be COMMENTERS, much less moderators.
So, yes, I totally disapprove of all feminists who advocate or laugh at violence, wherever they may be.
Are you willing to say the same about MRAs?
Because one post on anything remotely resembling a feminist site (condemned by most feminist) equals 1,000,000 posts calling for the harm up to death harm to women by MRA.
See how nice the math is?
Catalogue, why are you AFRAID to say you disapprove of violence?
You keep skirting that.
Why not say “I do not approve of threats of violence, but ARGH BARGH FEMINISTS”?
It looks awfully like you’re trying to keep your options open.
Ew.
People, the MRM is what Catalogue says it is! What are you going to believe: him or your lying eyes?
And if you don’t agree, he’ll just say it again.
An actual apology would mean admitting what he did was wrong, and that there was nothing good about it, so I agree. You issued apologia for Palmer though, until someone finally asked you if you read the OP and you admitted you just made assumptions about him.
We didn’t make a connection. We talked about how MRAs are celebrating that violence or excusing it. And then you proved the point for us by excusing it.
I can keep posting more links to feminist sites about opposing abuse in all forms.
Catalog has yet to even say appointing a violent mod is wrong.
Nor has he provided a link to all the reasonable, non violent MRA blogs he said were out there.
Nor has he provided a real link to feminists opposing justice for female abusers.
Holly
The whole purpose of your line of questioning is that you are hoping to slander me and the whole mra with a misandrist trope Holly, so Im not going along with it. What ever I say, I am pro rape and abuse because thats how the manboobz people roll.
Here is a challenge, someone from manboobz form an argument that doesn’t involve, lies slander or a misandrist trope?
Feminism has more violent than the mm, which has none, and it openly operates as an abusers lobby. Can you respond to that?
It seems like a very, very common Manboobz troll tactic to say “The MRM isn’t violent! Stop saying it’s violent!” but then to fall dead silent when asked if they, personally, disapprove of MRAs who talk about killing cops and judges and laugh at dead body pictures.
(God, I hope it’s just laughing.)
It’s like saying “no, I personally think the cop-killer dude is going too far” would be like letting the terrorists win.
(The terrorists, in this case, being the ones NOT talking about killing cops.)
Another link from a feminist site opposing female on male rape and the framing around reporting it.
http://shakespearessister.blogspot.com/2009/10/cnn-still-doesnt-know-how-to-cover.html
Er, delete on of those harms.
EDIT
“What ever I say, I am pro rape and abuse because thats how the manboobz people roll, false allegations, slander, misandrist tropes. Thats why you are among the lowest in the on line debate.