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Lady, killer; killer, lady.

What do women want? Freud never found a definitive answer to his famous question, but the blogger who calls himself Delusion Damage thinks he’s got it figured out: women want men who can kill people with their bare hands.

DD is a sort of compound MRA-PUA who argues for “Men’s Liberation Through ‘Game,’” as he put it in a Spearhead post some months ago.  Apparently, if dudes learn how to get the hot babes to give them strings-free sexy times, through the magic of “game,” this will help to “reduce the unilateral enslavement of men through marriage.”

And what attracts the ladies more than the ability to kill? Not much, apparently. If you’ve got that magic killing touch, everyone around you will sense your manly power:

You are a man. A man is a survivor, a hunter, a protector of loved ones. The essence of manliness is controlled power. … That is what women love and what other men respect. Women, most of them anyway, are unable to use force and must rely on men where force is required. … If you lack the ability to kill other people with your bare hands, you will be perceived as if something is missing from your manliness. …

If you can kill, the ladies will pick up on this instantly:

[H]aving the ability substantially raises the value she instinctively perceives you to have. Which, as we know, leads to all manner of good things.

I believe he’s referring to blowjobs.

Oh, and other dudes will be impressed, too:

The respect of other men is also greatly influenced by your killing ability. Up until graduation from high school, the male social hierarchy has a great deal to do with “who can beat up whom”, and although the hierarchy among adult men is more dependent on social and professional status signals, men never stop instinctively evaluating you by what they perceive your killing ability to be, and respecting or disrespecting you accordingly.

And this will set you apart from all the wimpy emo hipsters of the world, who couldn’t even fight a girl:

If there is a “defining” degree of killing ability that makes you “manly”, it is defined by comparison with the female of the species. …

In these dismal times, men who fall short of this line are not terribly rare. Many of the emaciated hipsters and cubicle-dwellers of our generation would have trouble against a Juanita from a rougher neighborhood. These men, due to their lack of killing ability, are seen as unmanly by both men and women. 

Meanwhile, your ability to kill will make others sit up and take notice:

The ability to kill makes your feelings relevant. If you lose your temper, someone dies.

This of course implies good things about you – the fact that you aren’t in jail right now means that you are a man in control of his emotions. A man who never loses his temper. Everyone around you subconsciously understands this and respects you for it. It lets people know they can trust you.

Yeah, nothing screams “trustworthy” more than a guy going on and on about how he could kill you with his bare hands.

Also, the ability to kill can help to prevent the ladies from blabbing endlessly about their stupid lady crap to you:

A woman who knows, without a shadow of a doubt, that she will have less than three seconds to live from the second she makes you lose your temper is not going to set out to intentionally poke and prod you past your breaking point.

Aw, yeah, it’s good to be a potential bare-hands killer:

[Y]ou will be afforded a completely unprecedented kind of respect. …

When you are The Man, everyone around takes note. It is a form of celebrity. Women gravitate to you, pulled by the invisible streams of attention, respect and deference which we all subconsciously sense in any social situation.

Given the sort of adoring attention DD must get from the ladies, it’s sort of amazing that he finds time to even keep up a blog at all.

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zombie rotten mcdonald
13 years ago

I believe Chuckee when he says he’s not an MRA.

He just straight up hates women.

MissPrism
13 years ago

I like* how our one of our endearing** scallywag*** trolls claims women totally suck because they are too discriminatory and only fuck FUCKING alphaFUCKs, and another one claims women totally suck because they are non-discriminatory in whom they fuck. Tsk! Get your misogynistic stories straight, trollboys!

*laugh at
**tiresome
***fuckwit

captainbathrobe
captainbathrobe
13 years ago

Chuckee, you are confusing intellectualism with, well, empty, pretentious nobbery. Any point worth making should be made as clearly and simply as possible. Obfuscation is the first, and last, refuge of the charlatan.

chuckeedee
chuckeedee
13 years ago

Chuckee, you are confusing intellectualism with, well, empty, pretentious nobbery. Any point worth making should be made as clearly and simply as possible. Obfuscation is the first, and last, refuge of the charlatan.

At what point is alleged obfuscation indicative of your ignorance or my alleged pretentiousness? And why should I care? And your point is? (sorry for the big words, but a few big words are more economical forthwith and insofar as)

MissPrism
13 years ago

Your point, Cap’n, is irrefragable. Chuck should knock it the fuck off with his egregious sesquipedalian anfractuosity.

MissPrism
13 years ago

PS Ozy, re: your beloveds – phwoar!

kristinmh
kristinmh
13 years ago

Wait, chuckie, you said “All women like this and that’s why they’re awful blargity blargity blarg” and ozy said, “Well, I like this other things” (I know ozy is genderqueer, but zie is FAB, so I’m assuming you consider her a woman) and your response is “That’s because you’re a narcissistic pervert”?

So we’re awful if we hook up with dudes we know (your “proximity” thesis), but we’re also awful if we have more selective criteria? Good to know!

I think you’re right, ZRM – chuck just hates us. How will we ever survive? I don’t know about you, but I’m putting on my hairshirt and flagellating myself as we speak.

captainbathrobe
captainbathrobe
13 years ago

Careful, Chuckles. Save it for the review committee. You wouldn’t want to peak too early.

kristinmh
kristinmh
13 years ago

Also, I don’t know if I have a type, and I haven’t dated in a long time since I’ve been married for almost 6 years – but I guess the one common feature that everyone I’ve been in a serious relationship with has had was that they were really, really passionate about one thing or another. Other than that there’s not much commonality. And none were violent criminals!

And Arks, you are apparently confusing women with lunch money. No one can “steal your girl” without said girl’s permission, and even if you did beat up a guy she prefers to you there’s no reason to think that would make her get back together with you.

I also reject the idea that all or even a large percentage of women are thrilled by the prospect of being with a violent guy who might snap at any moment and put them in the hospital. Not thrilling! Not at all!

darksidecat
darksidecat
13 years ago

yes, ozy, about the abuse. Also, abusers often kill their victims when the victims are attempting to leave or have left. It is one of the highest risk of death points in many abusive relationships. Because when the abuser says “if you leave, I will kill you” (or, worse “I will kill you and the kids”), they often are deadly serious. And the US is a failure in human rights law when it comes to enforcing protective orders (the UN has issued statements to this effect as well). Abusers also get custody at fairly high rates. “Just leave” isn’t so simple. Victims who stay with abusers aren’t necessarily doing it because they are foolish or irrational, sometimes, they are being very, very rational about a horrible situation.

Also, there isn’t some abuser look. You can’t pick them out of a crowd too easily. It’s like the joke Wednesday makes in the Adams Family about her Halloween costume “I’m a homocidal maniac. They look just like everyone else.”

captainbathrobe
captainbathrobe
13 years ago

Yes, women get to choose whom they fuck, even though that person may not be you. The grapes, they are awfully sour.

Philippa
Philippa
13 years ago

@Arks: No. The kind of men you’re describing just sound like violent thugs with a hair trigger temper to me. I’d much rather survive the encounter, so I’ll stay with my “beta manlet” and live a long and happy life.

Also: “gushing vaginas”? The poor woman obviously has a UTI and is in dire need of antibiotics.

zombie rotten mcdonald
13 years ago

At what point is alleged obfuscation indicative of your ignorance or my alleged pretentiousness?

Pretty much from your first post. I once heard someone say “if you can’t explain your point in a way that a ten-year-old can understand, you are a charlatan.” Truly knowledgeable people don’t rely on convoluted wordplay.

And I strenuously doubt that the failing is on the part of the commentariat here.


And why should I care?

I dunno, man. YOU posted HERE. You tell US why you care.

Naomi Wolfenstein
Naomi Wolfenstein
13 years ago

Rhetorically; Have the MRAs considered that we like displays of all kinds of physicality but the gender role they’ve given themselves only allows for the parts with the hitting?

ozymandias42
13 years ago

Simplicity and elegance are virtues in prose, you know, chuckeedee. That’s why Hemingway is considered such a great prose stylist.

Valerie
Valerie
13 years ago

I wouldn’t mind having a dude that can kill other dudes with his bare hands, but the real question is, can he kill a BEAR??

As we all know, bears roam the land free and after civilization has gone, it’s just us against the bears. Never mind the reptiles and sickness that would most likely kill you, worry about the BEARS! Yeah, we don’t need any science that can help with electricity or shit like that.
Noble prize winners are losers!

Good one Captainbathrobe, the grapes are sour.

kristinmh
kristinmh
13 years ago

@Valerie, one of my uncles once killed two bears in two days, but he’s well into his 80s and never married. What gives, ladies of the 40s?

Kollege Messerschmitt
13 years ago

Tell us, chuckeedee!
When you ask a woman what type of guy she’s into, what would be the response that wouldn’t lead to you telling her that she is a pervert or stupid or awful or whatever?

Let me take a wild guess…
It would probably be something along the lines of “well, my type of guy are the ones who are in every way like chuckeedee, or in the best case scenario, chuckeedee himself ♥”

havebookswilltravel
13 years ago

Valerie:

I can’t tell you how many times I’ve been in a bar and some BEAR comes up and starts rubbing on my partner and then eats my salmon, all my salmon! The nerve! What can a lonely, postgraduate degree betamale–I more Winne the Pooh than Kodiak–do against the BEARS, let alone the ALPHA BEARS! Neither my women nor my salmon are safe!

That’s why I’ve become a MRA, to get those Alpha BEARS off my ladyfolk and my delicious salmon-based resources. I am currently developing my own anti-BEAR martial art. Hint: It’s like Krav Maga, but, y’know, for fighting BEARS; it’s gonna be sweet.

zombie rotten mcdonald
13 years ago

Valerie is Stephen Colbert’s sockpuppet?

zombie rotten mcdonald
13 years ago

“I can kill a BEAR!” will be the new “We hunted the mammoth for you!” t-shirt.

zombie rotten mcdonald
13 years ago

ozy, Hemingway could kill a bear. Just sayin’.

havebookswilltravel
13 years ago

Hemingway could kill anything but alcoholism, and he gave that one helluva a fight.

cynickal
cynickal
13 years ago

You guys can claim not working out, not learning how to fight isn’t important, but when the above scenario happens what are you going to do to prevent an alpha from stealing your girl? Try to put him to sleep with feminist rhetoric? Good luck with that.

You obviously haven’t heard me expound on the brilliance of Milton. Charlie Sheen on a coke bender can’t stay awake for more than 5 seconds.

Sharculese
13 years ago

chuckeedee what made you think that your particular brand of half-baked logic, inane assumptions and flowery word salad in any way resembled intellectualism.

puffing on a bubble pipe while you spin your excuses doesnt make you stephen hawking

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