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Lady, killer; killer, lady.

What do women want? Freud never found a definitive answer to his famous question, but the blogger who calls himself Delusion Damage thinks he’s got it figured out: women want men who can kill people with their bare hands.

DD is a sort of compound MRA-PUA who argues for “Men’s Liberation Through ‘Game,’” as he put it in a Spearhead post some months ago.  Apparently, if dudes learn how to get the hot babes to give them strings-free sexy times, through the magic of “game,” this will help to “reduce the unilateral enslavement of men through marriage.”

And what attracts the ladies more than the ability to kill? Not much, apparently. If you’ve got that magic killing touch, everyone around you will sense your manly power:

You are a man. A man is a survivor, a hunter, a protector of loved ones. The essence of manliness is controlled power. … That is what women love and what other men respect. Women, most of them anyway, are unable to use force and must rely on men where force is required. … If you lack the ability to kill other people with your bare hands, you will be perceived as if something is missing from your manliness. …

If you can kill, the ladies will pick up on this instantly:

[H]aving the ability substantially raises the value she instinctively perceives you to have. Which, as we know, leads to all manner of good things.

I believe he’s referring to blowjobs.

Oh, and other dudes will be impressed, too:

The respect of other men is also greatly influenced by your killing ability. Up until graduation from high school, the male social hierarchy has a great deal to do with “who can beat up whom”, and although the hierarchy among adult men is more dependent on social and professional status signals, men never stop instinctively evaluating you by what they perceive your killing ability to be, and respecting or disrespecting you accordingly.

And this will set you apart from all the wimpy emo hipsters of the world, who couldn’t even fight a girl:

If there is a “defining” degree of killing ability that makes you “manly”, it is defined by comparison with the female of the species. …

In these dismal times, men who fall short of this line are not terribly rare. Many of the emaciated hipsters and cubicle-dwellers of our generation would have trouble against a Juanita from a rougher neighborhood. These men, due to their lack of killing ability, are seen as unmanly by both men and women. 

Meanwhile, your ability to kill will make others sit up and take notice:

The ability to kill makes your feelings relevant. If you lose your temper, someone dies.

This of course implies good things about you – the fact that you aren’t in jail right now means that you are a man in control of his emotions. A man who never loses his temper. Everyone around you subconsciously understands this and respects you for it. It lets people know they can trust you.

Yeah, nothing screams “trustworthy” more than a guy going on and on about how he could kill you with his bare hands.

Also, the ability to kill can help to prevent the ladies from blabbing endlessly about their stupid lady crap to you:

A woman who knows, without a shadow of a doubt, that she will have less than three seconds to live from the second she makes you lose your temper is not going to set out to intentionally poke and prod you past your breaking point.

Aw, yeah, it’s good to be a potential bare-hands killer:

[Y]ou will be afforded a completely unprecedented kind of respect. …

When you are The Man, everyone around takes note. It is a form of celebrity. Women gravitate to you, pulled by the invisible streams of attention, respect and deference which we all subconsciously sense in any social situation.

Given the sort of adoring attention DD must get from the ladies, it’s sort of amazing that he finds time to even keep up a blog at all.

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Ami Angelwings
13 years ago

I need silencer paw pads >_>

paniorpa
13 years ago

I’m good at judging people. Entering a long relationship with an abusive woman is as unlikely to happen to me as mistaking a lion for a cat.

Only flawed women can’t make the difference between a psychopath and a nice guy.

ozymandias42
13 years ago

That’s what some people I know thought before they got abused.

Snowy
Snowy
13 years ago

I’m good at judging people. Entering a long relationship with an abusive woman is as unlikely to happen to me as mistaking a lion for a cat.

Only flawed women can’t make the difference between a psychopath and a nice guy.

Even if this is true, which it isn’t, so what? Are you saying “flawed” women deserve to be abused? Aren’t we all flawed in one way or another?

Ami Angelwings
13 years ago

Okay, so who on this thread is a bad person and who is a good person? :3 And why?

Rutee Katreya
13 years ago

I think he seriously thinks Abusers walk around with Black Hats.

VoiP
VoiP
13 years ago

Good women are good at judging people. Their moral compass is sharp and they won’t get confused long by the lies or the victim-blaming of a psychopath.

If your moral compass is perverted (ie. if you are attracted to jerks/bad boys/psychopaths) you will stay much longer than a person with a healthy moral compass. Maybe you will stay your whole life and breed a new generation of jerks.

But psychopaths can hide their deviousness a long time only if they face a person whose moral compass is weak or perverted.

Sooner or later, good persons are able to detect red flags and to act on them.

I’ve got Asperger’s syndrome. I can’t tell what other people are thinking; trying to look beyond the things they say to anticipate or reconstruct their feelings makes me literally queasy. Am I immoral? Would you classify me as “weak” or “perverse”? How much do I deserve the beatdown that’s coming my way?

cynickal
cynickal
13 years ago

I think he seriously thinks Abusers walk around with Black Hats.

CURSES!!! Foiled again!

I would have gotten away with it if it weren’t for those meddling MRAs!!

paniorpa
13 years ago

“I think he seriously thinks Abusers walk around with Black Hats”

Some of them are convicted rapists and killers, and dozens of women beg them for a good fuck.

A conviction for rape or manslaughter seems like a good red flag in my opinion.

Many women are unable to make the difference because they are attracted to many of the psychopathic traits. You only have to read romances to see that women long for dangerous men.

http://www.amazon.com/Dangerous-Men-Adventurous-Women-Cultural/dp/0812214110

These women think it’s difficult to make the difference simply because they find psychopathic tendencies sexy.

If I was hardwired to confuse shit and chocolate, I would feel offended if someone told me I was dumb not to make the difference.

This is what happens to you.

But men don’t find psychopathic traits attractive. Quite the contrary. So it’s not that difficult to recognize bastards, provided there enough rapport to make a judgement.

amandajane5
amandajane5
13 years ago

My abusive first boyfriend was actually *only* emotionally abusive! So I gauged correctly that he would never hit or threaten me physically. And hurray for me being right, he never did. However, he did threaten suicide (regularly) and attempt it, and leave me to put together and pick back up the pieces. But I should’ve known that would happen because he was unfailingly sweet and supportive and loved me so much. So much that he would kill himself if I left him.

But hey, it didn’t leave a mark, so it didn’t happen, right?

Bostonian
13 years ago

I beg to differ, female psychopaths are just as successful with men as their opposite gender counterparts. Also, you have less moral compass than a flatworm.

Pecunium
13 years ago

as unlikely to happen to me as mistaking a lion for a cat.

But lions are cats. Now, you may have meant to say Felis familiarus (i.e. the common housecat), but you didn’t.

As an example of your attention to detail it makes me wonder just how gifted you are at the more subtle things which are done by skilled manipulators.

Pecunium
13 years ago

Sorry, typo, Felis familiaris

Ami Angelwings
13 years ago

Some of them are convicted rapists and killers, and dozens of women beg them for a good fuck.

A conviction for rape or manslaughter seems like a good red flag in my opinion.

So you’re not rly talking about like not being able to spot personality traits, etc… just that ppl know of a criminal record for rape or manslaughter and ignore it? o:

And this accounts for most of abusive relationships?

Ami Angelwings
13 years ago

Why would it be hardwired into women to be attracted to ppl likely to kill them btw? Or beat them and likely cause a miscarriage, or cause her to be too weak to raise the child, or beat the child, or kill the child? xD

But more importantly. How is it hardwired into women vs than in men? Is it chromosomal? Hormonal? Brain structure? 😀

Matthew Cline
Matthew Cline
13 years ago

If you want want to know whether I am an abuser or not, there’s a simple trick: just touch your panties. If it’s wet, then yes, I am an abuser.

If it’s dry, I am the average nice guy.

The contents of the comments you’ve made to this blog are entirely sufficient to tell if you’re an abuser or not? How much interaction is needed for a person with a good moral compass to make an accurate judge of character?

paniorpa
13 years ago

I don’t have the time to expand on this. I’m writing a book on this issue.

But I am talking about personality traits.

Many women value “confidence”. Psychopath are often very cocky and at first come across as “confident”. They are able to dupe hire persons during a job interview, and many women.

But men are more adept at spotting cocky behaviour among other males.

I’ve always selected huys who came across as shy and modest for friends when I was younger. These are the typical nice guys. But women select for cues of status, which goes hand in hand with psychopathic traits.

Psychopaths very rarely kill their partner. It’s very unlikely to happen.

Even if you are unhappy in your relationship, the “game” is about reproductive fitness.

Unhappy and good reproctive fitness >> happy but poor reproductive fitness.

Women are just as involved in violence as men are, but their responsability lies in the fact that they choose to reproduce with the worst males.

Ami Angelwings
13 years ago

So I’m confused. First you said that bad women have cloudy moral compasses so they get into abusive relationships without noticing the warning signs. And good women have good moral compasses so they can tell.

Now you’re saying that all women are hardwired to WANT abusive and rapey men xD And that in fact we LIKE being abused and raped cuz it’s hardwired into women (in some way which I’m hoping you’ll explain 😀 and for reasons I hope you’ll also explain 😀 )

So… in fact the moral compass is irrelevant, Women are hardwired to want men who will abuse and assault them. So what’s with the “good women” “bad women” “moral compass” thing? xD In fact, “good women” with clear moral compasses should be the ones able to tell the abusive men from the non abusive men, then choose them to fulfill their hardwired desires! While “bad women” would be confused! And accidentally choose good men, and then they’ll be sad 🙁

paniorpa
13 years ago

I didn’t say that. Women are not clones. A significant proportion of them look for a certain amount of psychopathic traits. They are at risk of having a relationship with jerks and maybe psychopaths. As they grow older, they change their target and choose men who have more moral qualities.

A minority are attracted to full-blown psychopaths (these are the women who become prison groupies).

Others look for good men from the start.

It’s very complex. And the dawn is rising here over Paris. I need to leave.

Ami Angelwings
13 years ago

But I am talking about personality traits.

Actually you were talking about a legal status which indicates that they have a history of killing and raping people. xD

Ami Angelwings
13 years ago

O: A vampire! D:

As they grow older, they change their target and choose men who have more moral qualities.

Is this hardwired too? o:

So, some women are attracted to some things, and others aren’t, women are different, and people change as they gain new experiences? o:

Matthew Cline
Matthew Cline
13 years ago

Many women value “confidence”. Psychopath are often very cocky and at first come across as “confident”. They are able to dupe hire persons during a job interview, and many women.

The more moral a person is, the less likely they are to be confident? And visa-versa?

Even if you are unhappy in your relationship, the “game” is about reproductive fitness.

So, immoral people have greater reproductive success than moral people, thus evolution has programmed us to find immoral people more attractive? If that was true, wouldn’t sociopathy have been selected for, leading to a human species where 100% of the population was sociopathic?

Ami Angelwings
13 years ago

If that was true, wouldn’t sociopathy have been selected for, leading to a human species where 100% of the population was sociopathic?

Don’t give away the twist ending Matthew xD

Molly Ren
13 years ago

Just for fun, Snowy put a post from paniorpa’s French blog into Google Translate and this came out:

“Muriel gave birth during the summer. I was informed via his Twitter account, but it gave no details. I almost ask him, “So? Future future rapist or raped? “But I restrained myself, it would have harmed our relations. She would have shouted at, for sure, accusing me of trying to shut her child in the boxes. What I can say – if it was a girl – she would not become one day a violeuse leading? I was already assigned a fate of its potential in curbing crime, and all that on the basis of a feature as futile as biological sex. Also if it is to change the child would one day move the camp to rape rapists or vice versa.”

Any French speakers here? Because this looks like pure gold.

KathleenB
KathleenB
13 years ago

paniorpa: If you think that romance novels give and insight whatsoever into the desires of real, not-fictional women, you have more troubles than just asshattery.

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