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The recent ugliness on Reddit

From time to time, something will happen on the Internet or in real life that I know I should write about for Man Boobz, but it’s so infuriating or depressing that I can’t bring myself to write about it. The recent bullshit on Reddit involving a young woman whose story of a sexual assault was met with angry disbelief until she provided video proof that her injuries were real is a perfect case in point.

Briefly, what happened is this:

A young woman posted about a sexual assault she’d endured a day or so earlier – a man had tried to rape her, pushing her to the ground and scraping her face on the pavement. In a separate topic she posted a picture of her injuries, most notably a giant scrape on her cheek. You can see it at right; click on the picture to see it full size.

Then another Redditor noticed that some time back, the same woman had posted a picture of herself in zombie makeup. This, he said, made him skeptical that her injuries were real — it was probably just a good makeup job.

That was all it took to send Reddit into a full internet lynch mob frenzy: obviously this woman was a liar and an attention whore and, even worse, possibly a feminist anti-rape activist! Redditors suddenly became both medical and makeup experts, and declared that the giant scrape on her face was obviously phony. (Not to me; I tried arguing with several of them to no avail.) It got ugly, very ugly, very quickly.

The woman at the heart of the storm asked if she needed to post an actual video of her cleaning the wound on her face to show that it was real; a redditor demanded that she do just that.

So she did. (Here it is.) Long story short: the scrape is real. The woman also posted a picture of the business card given to her by the police detective she’s spoken to when reporting the incident. It’s now pretty clear that there is no reason to doubt that her story is true. Even the Redditor who originally challenged her story realized that she was almost certainly telling the truth.

Here’s her post offering proof to back up her story.

At this point the lynch mob lost its steam; some people even apologized to her.

But the evidence of the ugliness remains in a host of different threads and different subforums on Reddit. I honestly don’t have the energy or the  patience to sift through all of the ugliness; luckily, Jezebel has given a decent account of the whole spectacle; you can go there to get some more of the details.

You might also want to look in to the main thread where most of the ugliness occurred — though at this point many of the vile accusatory comments that got upvoted when everyone seemed to assume she was lying have been retroactively voted down. (The screenshot I posted above gives a better idea of what it looked like at the time; here’s another screenshot with some of the choicer comments.)

Naturally, Men’s Rightsers contributed to the ugliness – though most of the worst comments appeared outside of the Men’s Rights subreddit, and a surprising number of r/mr regulars refused to jump on the original “she’s a liar” bandwagon.

While many Men’s Rightsters are now apologetic, others still think she may be lying.

Here’s a good discussion of the whole thing in ShitRedditSays, and a followup.

 

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thebionicmommy
thebionicmommy
13 years ago

NWOslave, women having the right to abortion does not mean men have no right to reproduce. If you visit a maternity ward and nursery at a hospital, you will see that plenty of men are reproducing. You are complaining that men can’t force pregnant women to have their babies. After the babies are born, do you think the man should be off the hook for all parental responsibility? I saw you whine about child support. Is your ideal situation that a woman would have to carry all pregnancies to term, and once the babies are born, she is on her own to raise and support them?

Flib
Flib
13 years ago

Well, yes, we are not growing in any sustainable way right now. That is a huge cluster of issues though. It is certainly something worth discussing, but I imagine such nuances (and perhaps the word sustainable) would be to much for Slavey to comprehend.

Rutee Katreya
13 years ago

It’s true, I’m sure I’ve given my position away as being in the UN Green Helicopter Brigade away with this talk.

I mean, I am certain nuance on the matter is beyond him, yes.

Pecunium
13 years ago

Murder is a legal defintion: The unlawful killing of a human being.

Some killings are not murder. Legislation changes. Opinions on what killing is legal vary. E.g. some jurisdictions allow for exemptions such as, “crimes of passion”.

Since abortions only became criminal in the past 100 years some people convinced other people it is was murder. The Church was, up to that point, of the opinion that, prior to quickening (about the middle of the second trimester) when movement could be felt; externally, it was no sin to have an abortion.

So what is/isn’t “murder” is a cultural question. Lynching was legally murder, but in the South is was culturally sanctioned.

But, in my way, I’m a bloodthirsty cuss. I took money to do a job which is, at root, killing people. So the issue, to me, isn’t “is this killing”, but is this killing unacceptable. Given all the other givens (which NWO denies, because it’s a woman making the decision; it’s dressed up in moralistic posturing, but he only cares about the law when he sees it restricting what he sees as the God-Given Rights of Men), I have no problem with abortion.

Pecunium
13 years ago

The question of population is really difficult. There is good evidence for the Native American people’s to have been in the 200-300 million range, in the PreColumbian, and that European disease wiped them out, leaving such a dearth of humanity the land looked empty of habitation.

But I digress.

The present overall world population is, probably sustainable, but the growth rate isn’t.

Malthus will win, modern tech has pushed the malthusian boundary out, but linear/exponential is, sooner or later, going to lead to a population crash. Other factors may make it a humanity extinguishing event, but that’s a whole ‘nother can of worms.

PosterformerlyknownasElizabeth

*builds a fleet of spaceships and loads them up with every MRA in existence then shoots them into space*

Enjoy your woman-free lives!

NWOslave
NWOslave
13 years ago

@Rutee Katreya

You actually dont have to worry about the evil white man anymore.

This is the growth rate for countries that have adopted feminism

Years————- 50/55— 60/65— 70/75— 80/85

Europe————-2.66—- 2.58—- 2.16—– 1.88

Northern America–3.47—- 3.34—- 2.01—– 1.81

Europe in 2005 was 1.40 and N. America is getting close to that, which at 2.1 gives a zero population growth. Feminism is simply unsustainable. As this trend of feminist slaughter continues there really won’t be very many, if any evil white men left in 100 years.

I don’t know the exact number of ethnic europeans but I’ll use 1 billion as a rough guess and I’ll say the trend stays at 1.4, although that’s not likely in a feminist country. We’ll say 40% are of an age to reproduce, meaning 400 million. In 20 years there will be 264 million, in 40 years 174 million, in 60 years 114 million, in 80 years 78 million, in 100 years 50 million.

As you can see, after another 100 years of feminism there will be only 50 million ethnic europeans in the world left able to reproduce at the current rate. which is 12 million less than the population of England. Feminism is unsustainable. How can a culture survive when there is no one left of that culture? It’ll be kinda funny really, archeologists will dig up america and europe 200 years from now and say, oh, they were feminists, that’s what happened. Boy will they laugh at us. They’ll probably think of us as unwashed barbarians who slaughter their unborn children. Imagine the children in the future looking back in horror at pictures of abortion clinics.

Sharculese
13 years ago

feminism is literally the only thing that can explain current trends in population growth. there are no other relevant facts at all.

ya, that makes a ton of sense.

hellkell
hellkell
13 years ago

OMG, he thinks white males are the only oppressing group. Of course he does.

Rutee Katreya
13 years ago

The present overall world population is, probably sustainable, but the growth rate isn’t.

Maybe, if you bomb everyone who isn’t Japanese or predominantly white that is trying to industrialize or raise their standard of living to the ones in the west. But I don’t think it remains sustainable when you account for a higher standard of living, atm, even if you look at something a little bit more reasonable like Europe (Because Central AC for the world is almost certainly not sustainable >.>)

As you can see, after another 100 years of feminism there will be only 50 million ethnic europeans in the world left able to reproduce at the current rate.

You really don’t understand what those rates mean, do you? You really, really, REAAAAAALLY don’t. Man, I don’t know the exact math, but it ain’t anywhere near as easy as you seem to think it is. It’s more like Zeno’s plummet.

Also, you seem to think these birth rates are the fault of feminism. Check Japan’s numbers. Protip: Best explanation we have is actually quality of life.

random6x7
random6x7
13 years ago

Race =/= culture, anyway. Every wave of immigrants the US has had, we’ve freaked out over and insisted that they were destroying the American Way of Life. And every time, a few generations later, the American Way of Life has survived, the descendents of the immigrants were real Americans, and we’ve all adjusted. Really, the only changes the current crop of Boogah-Boogah Immigrants are going to make to our culture are browner skin and possibly spicier food. So, even if you’re right and white dudes become extinct or whatever, there will still be some brown or black dudes carrying on the MRA banner, sadly. Misogyny is, unfortunately, not related to how much melanin you’ve got.

NWOslave
NWOslave
13 years ago

@Sharculese
“feminism is literally the only thing that can explain current trends in population growth. there are no other relevant facts at all.

Non feminist countries range around an average of 5. There is no other reason. Surely you smart folks that reside here knew this? In Germany, the German Government is actually trying to “reward” women to reproduce, they’ve seen the writing on the wall. But it’s already far too late to reverse the trend.

As I’ve told you before, feminism is anti-life, which of course means death. The Soviet Union is the birthplace of modern feminism, they didn’t survive 100 years of feminism, neither will we. The life expectancy for Russian men is 14 years less then the women. Pre-feminism they were just fine. We see this same trend as well in every country that has embraced feminism. Men die earlier and earlier. The laws get harsher and harsher for men. Russia’s birthrate as well as Ukraine and other is so pathetically low as to be almost nothing.

Sharculese
13 years ago

Non feminist countries range around an average of 5. There is no other reason. Surely you smart folks that reside here knew this?

we smart folks know about the difference between correlation and causation. yes.

random6x7
random6x7
13 years ago

Actually, the Russian life expectancy for both men and women has risen since 2004. Women experienced a similar drop in life expectancy to men’s in the ’90’s and through the first half of this last decade. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Russian_male_and_female_life_expectancy.PNG

Hmm, the rates are troubling, however. I doubt that feminism has much to do with it, as the far more feministy Scandinavian countries are renown for their much higher life expectancies.

NWOslave
NWOslave
13 years ago

@Sharculese

“we smart folks know about the difference between correlation and causation. yes.”

Well than do a little research. Note when each country adopted feminism. Next check population growth. Check male life expectancy. Check divorce rates. Check abortion rates. Is there more peace, harmony, wealth? Really, is anything better today than 40 or 50 years ago since feminism became State law? If not, the culprit is easily identified. Funny how the more feminism we get the worse things get, why is that? But of course, the answer is always more feminism.

hellkell
hellkell
13 years ago

Shaenon, there’s another for the Book o Larnin’–The Soviet Union was the birthplace of modern feminism.

Tell me Slaveboy, how did you glean that nugget of info?

katz
13 years ago

NWO just can’t wrap his brain around the fact that we don’t care all that much about brown people outpopulating white people.

random6x7
random6x7
13 years ago

And global warming has risen as the number of pirates has declined. The Somalis are doing their part, but it’s too little, too late, dammit.

Also: http://www.worldofmapimages.com/world-map-of-happiness/

hellkell
hellkell
13 years ago

Funny how the more feminism we get the worse things get for whiny old men who are clinging to an outdated fantasy life that never existed, why is that?

Fixed that for ya.

Sharculese
13 years ago

i dont know what it means to ‘adopt’ feminism. does it involve passing some sort of grand declaration that women are entitled to the same rights as men? because in america, at least, we famously failed to do that.

also

Check male life expectancy. Check divorce rates. Check abortion rates. Is there more peace, harmony, wealth?

weve been over this before. if you want to make fact claims its your job to provide the data. nobody is going to do your research for you.

Pecunium
13 years ago

And correlation still has no relation to causation.

NWOslave
NWOslave
13 years ago

@random6x7

” Hmm, the rates are troubling, however. I doubt that feminism has much to do with it, as the far more feministy Scandinavian countries are renown for their much higher life expectancies.”

I guess living in terror of feminist State law is really liberating. Wasn’t there that shooter there recently. Also, I love the Norway law of prostitution being legal. Of course purchasing a prostitute is a criminal offense. Ain’t that some shit. What do they run, about a 50% or more income tax rate out there. Throw in sales tax, and tax upon tax. And it all goes to womens causes. I hear in grade school there’s a day where they give all the girls cookies and ice cream and the like, while the boys are given stale matza or something. Julian is a rapist for having consensual sex . A man can’t fart over there without being locked up for hurting some precious snowflakes feelings. Yea, gimmie some of that shit.

random6x7
random6x7
13 years ago

But the happiness index map shows Scandinavians are some of the happiest in the world. Granted, that’s terribly subjective, but it’s from the point of view of the actual people. They’re also really tall and have long life expectancies, both indications that they are healthy. The data is pretty much the opposite of what you’re saying.

Also, there’s a day in Spain where everyone throws tomatoes at each other. There’s another place where two churches launch fireworks at each other one night in an attempt to make the other’s bell ring. People have weird traditions. You’re going to have to give me more information about Girl Ice Cream Day before I buy that it’s part of the vast feminist conspiracy and not some quirky tradition that started 300 years ago.

hellkell
hellkell
13 years ago

In NWO land, even if the ice cream thing is a 300 year old tradition, feminism made it so.

random6x7
random6x7
13 years ago

Right. Forgot about feminism’s magical time-travelling powers.

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