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The recent ugliness on Reddit

From time to time, something will happen on the Internet or in real life that I know I should write about for Man Boobz, but it’s so infuriating or depressing that I can’t bring myself to write about it. The recent bullshit on Reddit involving a young woman whose story of a sexual assault was met with angry disbelief until she provided video proof that her injuries were real is a perfect case in point.

Briefly, what happened is this:

A young woman posted about a sexual assault she’d endured a day or so earlier – a man had tried to rape her, pushing her to the ground and scraping her face on the pavement. In a separate topic she posted a picture of her injuries, most notably a giant scrape on her cheek. You can see it at right; click on the picture to see it full size.

Then another Redditor noticed that some time back, the same woman had posted a picture of herself in zombie makeup. This, he said, made him skeptical that her injuries were real — it was probably just a good makeup job.

That was all it took to send Reddit into a full internet lynch mob frenzy: obviously this woman was a liar and an attention whore and, even worse, possibly a feminist anti-rape activist! Redditors suddenly became both medical and makeup experts, and declared that the giant scrape on her face was obviously phony. (Not to me; I tried arguing with several of them to no avail.) It got ugly, very ugly, very quickly.

The woman at the heart of the storm asked if she needed to post an actual video of her cleaning the wound on her face to show that it was real; a redditor demanded that she do just that.

So she did. (Here it is.) Long story short: the scrape is real. The woman also posted a picture of the business card given to her by the police detective she’s spoken to when reporting the incident. It’s now pretty clear that there is no reason to doubt that her story is true. Even the Redditor who originally challenged her story realized that she was almost certainly telling the truth.

Here’s her post offering proof to back up her story.

At this point the lynch mob lost its steam; some people even apologized to her.

But the evidence of the ugliness remains in a host of different threads and different subforums on Reddit. I honestly don’t have the energy or the  patience to sift through all of the ugliness; luckily, Jezebel has given a decent account of the whole spectacle; you can go there to get some more of the details.

You might also want to look in to the main thread where most of the ugliness occurred — though at this point many of the vile accusatory comments that got upvoted when everyone seemed to assume she was lying have been retroactively voted down. (The screenshot I posted above gives a better idea of what it looked like at the time; here’s another screenshot with some of the choicer comments.)

Naturally, Men’s Rightsers contributed to the ugliness – though most of the worst comments appeared outside of the Men’s Rights subreddit, and a surprising number of r/mr regulars refused to jump on the original “she’s a liar” bandwagon.

While many Men’s Rightsters are now apologetic, others still think she may be lying.

Here’s a good discussion of the whole thing in ShitRedditSays, and a followup.

 

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David K. Meller
David K. Meller
13 years ago

David Futrelle,

In the light of the above posts, when are you changing the name of this website from manboobz.com to the far more accurate and truthful “womenbeinghateful.com”? You could still make fun of misogyny all you wanted (even using my name and posts to do so) but at least browsers will have some idea of what it is you are attacking. It would surely live up to the name!

PEACE AND FREEDOM!!
David K. Meller

PS- You may want to warn such browsers of these especially poisonous women by putting a sign, say a skull and crossbones next to their names, before or above their posts. DKM

Pecunium
13 years ago

Meller: It’s more than just women who think you a worthless sort of man, but contrary to this aspect of your delusions, it’s not all about you.

Men's Rights Activist Lieutenant
Men's Rights Activist Lieutenant
13 years ago

Guys, I’m pretty sure you’re being trolled hard by Meller the poe.

cynickal
cynickal
13 years ago

PS- You may want to warn such browsers of these especially poisonous women by putting a sign, say a skull and crossbones next to their names, before or above their posts. DKM

What am I? Invisible chopped liver?
/cries

Kave
Kave
13 years ago

No doubt David met his future bride in the basement and neither has any idea what the other looks like.

Anyone have the time to find an online Dom who signs his sex posts with Peace and Freedom?

Kave
Kave
13 years ago

I meant… PEACE AND FREEDOM!!

Hershele Ostropoler
13 years ago

Pecunium

Meller: What, we aren’t real people? My feminist lovers and I are pretty damned happy.

Same for the people here, Molly, Kristine, Shaenon, Nobinyamu, Comrade Slivova, CB, Zombie McDonald.

M3 T00!

David K. Meller
David K. Meller
13 years ago

Comrade Svilova–24September 2011@4:15am

I’m glad that you as a feminist, have managed to combine the traditional expressions of womanhood with feminism, but you are a LEZZIE! You admit to doing this for your girlfriend. There is nothing wrong with that, of course, but it certainly doesn’t do men any good!

If you should find a way of making a man happy with your company and homemaking, while continuing to support feminism, than I may even revise some of my impressions of feminism. However, until then, it is a profoundly anti-male and anti-human movement!

PEACE AND FREEDOM!!
David K. Meller

Holly Pervocracy
13 years ago

DKM, I don’t think I can take you seriously until you find some way of making a woman happy with your…

…um, what do you have to offer? I’m exquisitely unclear on what a woman would get out of being your companion and homemaker, other than that you’ll let her sleep in the house and let her eat some of the food that she cooks.

Molly Ren
13 years ago

“…um, what do you have to offer? I’m exquisitely unclear on what a woman would get out of being your companion and homemaker, other than that you’ll let her sleep in the house and let her eat some of the food that she cooks.”

Making little DKMs?

… perish the thought. o.O

Rutee Katreya
13 years ago

Hahaha, he apparently thinks feminists can’t meet the womanboobz challenge.

He also thinks that it’s anti-male for a woman to not find some way to specifically make Men happy. Yet he denies being anti-women despite going well out of his way to make sure no women are happy (I certainly grant that some women actually want to be homemakers… and I doubt any of them would be happy to have the CHOICE stripped from them).

God, DKM, go fuck yourself a few hundred times til you get this shit out of your system, you’re a vile little fucker as is.

mythago
13 years ago

@Molly, they really want to believe that women get some kind of magical fulfillment out of it. They apparently haven’t figured out that “female” and “lifestyle submissive” are not synonyms.

Pam
Pam
13 years ago

Making little DKMs?

[SHUDDER!!!]

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