Angry manosphere dudes sure do love them some apocalyptic fantasies! Which totally makes sense, since they all seem to imagine the apocalypse as little more than an opportunity to deliver a big “told you so!” to women and “manginas” and probably their pet goldfish.
Over on MGTOWforums.com, our robogirl-obsessed friend avoidwomen has been reposting assorted comments he’s apparently found on The Spearhead, and which he just loves, loves, loves! Unfortunately, he hasn’t provided links or any other information about them, and Google didn’t much help, so I don’t know who exactly should get the credit for the following bit of postapocalyptic fiction.
It’s sort of long, but I think you’ll pick up the gist of it right away. (It also sounds really, really familiar – have I written about it before, or is it just that MRAs and MGTOWers are so predictably unoriginal?) Are you sitting comfortably? Good. Let’s begin:
An economic collapse will put women in their place. Virtually no women have the skills necessary to survive in the real world. They can survive in this artificial politically correct, multi-cultural, anything goes, “death to the West, death to the white male patriarch” system that we are presently in….
As the economy declines even further the government will be forced to make massive cuts. … The first things on the chopping block will be entitlements, the sort of entitlements that have enabled women to use big government as a substitution for a stable nuclear family, a family they would only be able to have by behaving themselves and conforming to acceptable standards of behavior as determined by their fathers and later their husbands.
And now we come to the payoff:
In the near future women will be given the choice of starving in the street, finding some way to hunt/fish/garden on their own, or conforming to the standards men set for them and being kept alive by men who actually place value upon their continued existence.
Let’s throw some Ayn Rand into the mix:
This dysgenic society favors the weak and indeed it subsidizes the weak at the expense of the strong and the fit. … We are ruled by thieves who steal from the productive and give to the idiotic masses to keep themselves in office at the expense of the intelligent, the creative, the productive, the true movers and shakers of society.
Can I have some “we hunted the mammoth” to go with that “Atlas Shrugged?”
We build civilizations yet we are penalized at every step of the way in every aspect of our lives. Instead of being allowed to innovate, invent, and create, we are made to subsidize the recklessness of unworthy women, tens of millions of illegal aliens, and any other group that some clique of weak and effeminate politicians decides to cave to.
Hmm. That’s pretty good. But still not quite melodramatic enough. Can we add some big blustery clichés to the mix? Some “we stand on the edge of a precipice” sort of shit?
We stand on the cusp of the precipice, gazing down into the abyss.
Oh, ok. I didn’t expect you to take me quite so literally. But never mind:
After our civilization is pushed over the edge a new one will emerge from the void left by the collapse of the old one. All we have to do is make sure it is to our benefit rather than to our detriment.
And now, back to all those mean bitches who were so mean to us:
The prospect of starvation, death by exposure to the elements, or being turned into a prostitute by a street gang that openly dominates some X number of city blocks in the absence of big government police, should be amply adequate to put most women in their place.
You can almost hear the writer jazzing in his pants as he writes this.
The question is not one of “will they come crawling back to us” but rather, “how do we respond when they do finally come crawling back.”
Yeah, ladies, maybe we don’t want you after all!
Most of them are bitter, selfish, self-absorbed, idiotic, brain-dead, used up whores, and I have no need for such creatures in my life. They don’t know how to cook, how to clean, how to butcher livestock, how to till a field, how to cultivate crops, how to hunt game, how to fish, how to defend themselves in hand-to-hand combat, how to zero a rifle, in short they have no practical useful skills for existence outside of an artificial globalist “post industrial” financial/retail services economic structure.
Ooh! In your face, ladies who can’t cultivate crops and take down bears in hand-to-hand combat!
Did your feminism prepare you for BEARS? I think not!
In addition they don’t even know how to treat people, especially men, in a right and proper fashion.
Um. What happened to hand-to-hand-combat and all that survival-of-the-fittest stuff? This seems a tad, er, petulant.
I personally have no use for a bunch of used up whores who “had their fun” and now expect men who know what is what and have their act together, to put their lives on the line to keep them safe.
Ah, now we’re rolling again.
Screw you, whores! It’s all fun and games until the economy collapses and the BEARS show up!
Hopefully in the new society, the one on the way, women will be treated as perpetual minors with no contractual capacity and no right to ownership of property. … what we cannot achieve politically will be achieved socially and physically by the nature of the coming collapse/implosion.
Yep, ladies. It’s our way … or the BEARway! (By which I mean, “the highway, except that the highway is covered with BEARS!”)
Never forget, that at some point back in time, EVERYTHING women have they obtained from MEN, either via big government initiated wealth/resource transfers, or because men were foolish enough to dote on them in some hope of obtaining sex/sexual access (or even just the affections/approval) from some creature that was doubtlessly a used up whore.
So there you have it. Our glorious future!
I’m not sure how the robogirls fit in all this exactly. If the economy collapses and we’re fighting the BEARS in the streets, won’t that put a little dent in production of robogirls?
Never mind. That’s a mere detail. The important things to remember are: Apocalypse soon, women screwed, men happy, BEARS.
I love the Foxfire series! Although they are of limited usefulness in Fort Lauderdale, where I live.
I should buy a set in case of zombie apocalypse…
There’s also the small matter that you need to be living in a really small, hateful little bubble to imagine “sides” in a post-apocalyptic survival scenario breaking down along gender lines.
Outside that bubble, most people’s top concern, and loyalty, is their families, friends, and community. I know these dudes cherish the idea that all relationships are bubbling cauldrons of misery and hatred, but most people actually like their families and would vastly prefer to work with and defend them over forming into single-sex groups to throw down with the other.
I’m also with Pecunium- if the zomgocalypse were to happen right now, I’d have an effective lifetime supply of ammunition. Most shooters who don’t just buy a gun and throw it in a nightstand forever do; ammo is variable enough in price, and enough gets burned on range trips, that it makes sense to stock up hundreds of rounds at a time when you go shopping and especially if you find a good deal. And while I’m only a fair-to-middling rifle shot, even Usain Bolt couldn’t close in the time it would take me to shoulder a rifle and acquire a good sight picture, even on a moving target. I’m waaaaaaay far away from unique among women in this respect.
For the most part, the dudes like the original poster and Mr. 5-star aren’t going to have time to be eaten by bears, they’ll be shot for stealing/general antisociality first.
So I was just listening to Idioteque, do you think Trogdor and avoidwomen would call Thom Yorke a mangina?
Actually, the collapse or near-collapse will be hard for men as well. It’s women who will have the real wake-up call, however.
I do not know if I would be much use as I am pretty lazy. I can learn fast and I have a good memory however so fairly sure I could help out with the Manboobz community.
How so TAB? Because of what? Details please.
Hello Lady Raine!
Pizza? Pfft! As long as I don’t have to give blow jobs, I’ll do just fine in the apocolypse 😉
“This dysgenic society favors the weak and indeed it subsidizes the weak at the expense of the strong and the fit.”
Very true. Technology keeps alive too many runt males. Eventually they outnumber the normal healthy males and take over. A society run by wimps soon becomes one run by women. When this happens the females raise the price of their loyalty, fidelity, and respect. When that happens working no longer wins men females. So the men stop working and the society collapses. It’s happened before and will happen again.
“This dysgenic society favors the weak and indeed it subsidizes the weak at the expense of the strong and the fit.”
Is that from Ayn Rand? The woman who went on Phil Donahue to supplicate Americans to collectively support the collectivist state of Zionist Israel?
Quite a rugged individualist, eh?
Objectivism, my ass.
“but most people actually like their families and would vastly prefer to work with and defend them over forming into single-sex groups to throw down with the other.”
Doesn’t quite work that way. Gangs (feudal lords, warlords, etc.) of armed men aren’t ‘anti-female’ per se. They just see females as property to fight over.
They can only do it because they’re supported by outside food sources. If you actually look at history, when the chips are down you pretty much can’t have 50% of the populace not working. It’s never happened, not even in Leave it to Beaver USA.
Oh, it’s EWME. Carry on with your wrong, little fool.
I don’t think that I could phrase it any better than did Gerda Lerner during an interview about her works:
“When I started working on women’s history about thirty years ago, the field did not exist. It was not recognized; people didn’t think that women had a history worth knowing. The professors that taught me thought that it was an exotic specialty and I was wasting my talents pursuing it. And for women, looking back to the past has usually been painful, because what we would learn would be an absence. We would learn that women had not done this, and they had not done that, and that essentially, according to the traditional view, women had contributed very little to the making of human society, and even less to the making of the intellectual product of Western civilization.
[…] The effect on men has been very bad too, of the omission of women’s history, because men have been given the impression that they’re much more important in the world than they actually are, and that’s not a good way to become a human being. It has fostered illusions of grandeur in every man that are unwarranted. If you can think, as a man, that everything great in the world and in civilization was created by men, then naturally you have to look down on women…”
What these internet warriors are forgetting is that women will not longer be their problem. Other dudes will be their problem. Sure, they could probably beat me into submission since I only weight 120 lbs, but try doing that with a group of Navy Seal types. They think life is hard now, they have no idea what they are wishing for.
Your average Jarhead is going to be a lot more kinder to any woman because unlike these internet dudes, they don’t have anything to prove.
I’m a little gobsmacked by the moral bankruptcy of these people who think a radical restructuring of society such that half of humanity had no choice but to be submissive servants to the other half in order to survive, would be preferable to what we have now in which most people are relatively free to live as they like.
Sorry, dudes. Your mad Halo skills won’t cut it in an apocalyptic future.
Amnesia, their Halo skills would be helpful if alien invaders challenged them to a video game tournament. What if the Internet tough guys have all the best weapons unlocked and cheat codes activated, and the aliens were total noobs? Then we would all have to rely on them for their survival, at least until the zombears attack.
Funny thing is, there are plenty of subsistence-farming areas of the world right now, and while they aren’t bastions of feminism, they’re not entirely composed of Mad Max gangs keeping pet women either. We don’t have to argue about whether women “would” learn to survive a hand-to-mouth existence when millions of women already do.
Projection, not just for movie theaters anymore.
Technology keeps alive too many runt males.
And Ewme smacks down Mr. Al! It’s an MRM cage match!
Crap. Blockquotes — where did I put you?
That should be —
And Ewme smacks down Mr. Al! It’s an MRM cage match!
PFKAelizabeth:
Oh, well, you’ve seen that picture of David.
It will be a while before there are, “feudal warlords”, because that requires surplus, and a sense of landed ownership/clients. Western Rome became Europe, it didn’t “Fall into savagery, which the people of Europe clawed out of”.
So, marauding savages, sure. But the “barbarians” of Rome weren’t small groups of raiders, they were entire ethnic groupings, with culture, norms, laws, attitudes, and religions. That was all added onto Rome. Those groups adopted (as best they could, and as best they saw fit) the tools and trappings of Rome.
From the lack of an ability to collect taxes and redistribute wealth they became a land-based system of militarised gentry (which hadn’t been the case in Rome) and from that came feudalism.
What might happen after an apocalyptic event we can’t say, because the skeleton on which it would be built we can’t see (for all that we are still wrapped around the bones of Rome; as are a number of cultures we don’t think of being so wrapped around those same bones are as well, the end results of succeeded cultures are not automatic; the Caliphate was built on different aspects of the Roman Legacy, but it was still based on the carcass of the Roman Empire).
So EWME is, as usual, taking the piss.
I have. He needs a shave.
Not to mention that most of the whole “Apocalypse” scenarios are firstworldproblems.com