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“Feminism was born out of a PR campaign to get women to smoke cigarettes” and other fun “facts” from Reddit

Typical feminists, according to Reddit

A redditor called fxexular has put together an amazing compilation of fun “facts” about feminism from assorted Redditors. It’s a bit like reading the descriptions of an elephant offered by six blind men who are also drunk misogynist assholes. Among my favorites:

feminism, at best, focuses on relatively trivial female issues instead of grotesque male issues and at worst is pure man hate.

feminism. Where the most privileged people in society can whine about their “oppression of opulence.”

Feminism is about strong males using law to further marginalize weak males.

The ruling class uses feminism as a tool to keep men, young men and boy’s down

It’s like pissing in a bucket of water – piss enough, and you’ll dilute the water to mostly piss. “Feminism” is a bucket of piss these days, from all the crazy and ignorant that attached to it over the years, especially the past decade when it became a fad.

feminism destroys men’s confidence and sense of satisfaction in being male.

every feminist is a abuser or a abuser apologist or a shield for other abusers.

Feminists don’t even think of men as human.

Most women and feminists view gay men as accessories.

these feminist nut cases have only one goal: total female supremacy at the expense of men. Fuck every last one of these haggard harpies. Fuck ’em all.

I used to hold doors, I dont anymore. I just let it slam in the face of whoever is behind me b/c I have been publicly embarrassed by many a feminist for being polite.

Feminists are like witches, but this isn’t the The Land of Oz, Dorothy. There are no “good” feminists.

Brainwashed weak feminist men are a favorite of feminists. They don’t treat them very well, but they use them to great effect.

i’m mad as hell at the way men are treated by the feminist gynecocracy

The people who dismiss /mr are like abusers; they’re looking for any excuse to piss all over something they know is logical and true because they can’t handle it emotionally.

Many feminists do hate men and want to emasculate them. While I’m thankful for the few who don’t I feel that their silence allows the groups like NOW to exploit men and women alike for their own aims.

I know it sounds good to believe that feminism was always about equality but go and read up on the first wave suffragettes. They were basically domestic terrorists in many cases.

The feminism of the 60’s also lead to the vitriol hatred of men.

I suspect that the butt-ugly women who started feminism in the 60’s were confronted for the first time with an efficient mating market (after the sexual revolution), and they couldn’t stand “losing” to the pretty girls

[Feminists’] entire shtick is to repeat misinformation and when that fails bust out the unsubstantiated personal attacks

Yeah, no irony there!

I think this one is my favorite, though:

I will never socialize with feminists after I learned the darkness of their philosophy.

Most of these quotes are from the Men’s Rights subreddit. Every quote in fxexular’s list that I went to look at in context had gotten more upvotes than downvotes. So they must be true!

EDITED TO ADD: Oops! Forgot the link. I added it above. And here is is again, just in case.

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chocominties
chocominties
13 years ago

But Joplin’s so full of the h0m0z! (I’m from ’round those parts.)

Me, I spent my day spitting on betas and opening doors by myself. Those dudes must be right! Damn us door-opening harpies!

Seriously though, if you let the door slam shut in the face of the person behind you, it doesn’t mean you’re anti-feminist. It just means you’re an asshole. (And in Japan it means you’re Japanese. They aren’t big on holding doors, just fyi. Drove me bonkers because in America That’s Just What We Do. That was your Culture Moment for the day. Chocomint out.)

Holly Pervocracy
13 years ago

If I can get equal pay and work opportunity, safety from sexual violence and harassment, and an equal voice in media and politics, I will hold open every door for the rest of my life, or let men hold them, or build a door-opening robot, or seriously whatever you want.

2ManyBottles2ManyPills
2ManyBottles2ManyPills
13 years ago

Many of these comments simply make no sense. I know that’s a Captain Obvious level observation, but just let me share these pearls of wisdom and reason:

“Feminists see the world through the lens of hierarchy.

To the feminist, gender is a binary thing. You are either a man or a woman. Masculinity can be observed, as can femininity.”

“Feminists hate the glass ceiling but readily accept the glass cellar.” WTF is a glass cellar?

“Women are the ones that look at gay men as feminized because any man that doesn’t lust after them 24/7 must be a fag…or so their hampster wheel tells them.” Hamster wheels talk? Who knew! And what’s the connection between hamster wheels and believing a man is gay?

“When feminists describe rape, it’s on the level amputating an appendage. When feminists define rape, it’s on the level of stubbing a toe.” Does this make sense to anyone besides the dude that wrote it?

“Feminists like to hide behind children.” Like a human shield?

Just a few things to ponder on a Wednesday evening.

Moewicus
Moewicus
13 years ago

Personally I hold doors open for women (and men) every single day, and I’ve never had anyone object. Then again, I do the “hold it open and linger to keep it open as you pass through” thing, not the “awkwardly insist on playing at chivalry and hold it open from outside” thing. I can only imagine the ostentation a white supremacist puts into the act.

The one time anyone has ever bothered to raise gender issues in relation to the holding of doors in my experience was one time when I was in an elevator with a woman and a man and the other man and I moved to hold the door for a fourth passenger while the woman, standing towards the rear of the elevator, didn’t act and maybe said “aw” in a sort of sympathetic way. The fourth person didn’t actually get on, but on the ride upwards the woman sardonically commented “the boys act while the girl whines” or something like that. All of us had a brief chuckle and went on with our lives, although I later thought of continuing the joke by turning to the woman and saying “you sexist pig!”. But life, it is filled with regrets. L’esprit d’ascenseur.

firebee
13 years ago

It’s amazing how thoroughly attached folks can get to the question of door-holding (also tire-changing, jar-opening, and the occasional fetish centering around semi-automatic handgun slides) as some sort of iconic component of the masculine gender role. Is it some sort of last bastion sort of thing — sure, you can vote and you can work as an engineer, but don’t come crying to me when you have to… open your own doors? What??

In a weird sort of way it’s kind of cute. I’m not sure how these people think I get into my apartment…

cynickal
cynickal
13 years ago

@Bagelsan
I prefer this one

I think AntZ is fighting a one No True Scotsman in defense of MRM.

Bagelsan
Bagelsan
13 years ago

I mean, what he said sounds a little condecending, but at the same time, he’s an older man, and…well, what else can you do but laugh uncomfortably and move on.

Yeah, I was mentally just like “…hurray for really low bars? ^^; ” but it certainly wasn’t something to get in a fight over or even worth being rude to him about. Maybe he’ll be slightly cooler about the next woman who opens her own door in which case, yay, I win. :p

karak
karak
13 years ago

“I know it sounds good to believe that feminism was always about equality but go and read up on the first wave suffragettes. They were basically domestic terrorists in many cases.”

Yes, yes they were. Because they wanted to vote and own property and not get beaten by their husbands. OH THE HORROR.

And is this the same subreddit that often suggests men should beat their wives and set public buildings afire? What, that’s not domestic terrorism, just good thinkin’?

amandajane5
13 years ago

I have this, I’m sure is extremely annoying, tendency to use both doors when it’s a double door. That’s right! Even if some dude is holding a door open for me, I’ll use the other one, because hey, designed for two people to use simultaneously! As I am a polite person I usually thank the dude in question, but come the fuck on, door opening is supposed to be something women can’t do?

johnnykaje
13 years ago

Suffragettes were total domestic terrorists. They knocked a policeman’s cap right off! RIGHT OFF!

http://www.cartoons.ac.uk/record-image/standard/WH0519

Therefore, women voting is bad.

(I just find it funny that cap off-knocking is lumped in the same category as vandalism and physical assault)

KathleenB
KathleenB
13 years ago

amandajane: It was only a certain class of white women who were deemed ‘worthy’ of having doors opened for them, etc. See Sojourner Truth’s ‘Ain’t I A Woman?’

That man over there says that women need to be helped into carriages, and lifted over ditches, and to have the best place everywhere. Nobody ever helps me into carriages, or over mud-puddles, or gives me any best place!

http://www.fordham.edu/halsall/mod/sojtruth-woman.asp

or, if you prefer video, Alfre Woodard doing a pretty amazing reading:

Anthony Zarat
13 years ago

“… Suffragettes were total domestic terrorists. They knocked a policeman’s cap right off! RIGHT OFF! …”

Do you people even know how your movement got started?

captainbathrobe
13 years ago

Seneca Falls?

Molly Ren
13 years ago

Antz, I hear a bunch of feminists threw red paint on some copies of American Psycho in a bookstore once…

hellkell
hellkell
13 years ago

It was when we burned our bras, right?

Sharculese
13 years ago

Do you people even know how your movement got started?

bladerunner?

kristinmh
kristinmh
13 years ago

Kendra, I think the door thing is regional. I never absorbed the “men are supposed to open doors for women” thing, and I was explicitly taught as a child that if you go through a door before someone else you hold it open for them, because that’s just the polite thing to do. And I don’t think I’ve ever, in Toronto anyway, encountered a man who got shirty because I opened the door for him. Maybe it’s not a thing up here?

Anyway, what a petty thing to be angry about.

Lauralot
Lauralot
13 years ago

Man, I liked American Psycho.

Guess being a feminist means I hate it now, though, because we’re all a hive mind or whatever else the MRAs are saying this week.

kristinmh
kristinmh
13 years ago

Sharculese, everyone knows feminism was started when Mary Wollstonecraft Shelley wrote Frankenstein and unleashed her monster on an unsuspecting public.

Come on, don’t make me send you for re-education! Cause I can totally do that, according to the last thread!

Rutee Katreya
13 years ago

“Feminists hate the glass ceiling but readily accept the glass cellar.” WTF is a glass cellar?

MRAs have taken to claiming that men predominate the *bottom* of society as well as its top, thanks to Warren Farrell’s half-assed sociological research, wherein Farrell erased all the poor women.

I assume this is the Glass Cellar

felixBC
felixBC
13 years ago

Why no, Antz, I am ignorant on this subject. Why don’t you explain it to us?

Anthony Zarat
13 years ago

“Why no, Antz, I am ignorant on this subject. Why don’t you explain it to us?”

I do not have time to educate you. But possibly you can learn from the words of Sylvia Pankhurst, an early leader of your violent movement:

“The destruction wrought in the seven months of 1914 before the War excelled that of the previous year. Three Scotch castles were destroyed by fire on a single night. The Carnegie Library in Birmingham was burnt. The Rokeby Venus, falsly, as I consider, attributed to Velazquez, and purchased for the National Gallery at a cost of £45,000, was mutilated by Mary Richardson. Romney’s Master Thornhill, in the Birmingham Art Gallery, was slashed by Bertha Ryland, daughter of an early Suffagist. Carlyle’s portrait of Millais [sic] in the National Portrait Gallery, and numbers of other pictures were attacked, a Bartolozzi drawing in the Dore Gallery being completely ruined. Many large empty houses in all parts of the country were set on fire, including Redlynch House, Sommerset, where the damage was estimated at £ 40,000. Railway stations, piers, sports pavilions, haystacks were set on fire. Attempts were made to blow up reservoirs. A bomb exploded in Westminster Abbey, and in the fashionable church of St George’s, Hanover Square, where a famous stained-glass window from the Malines was damaged … One hundred and forty-one acts of destruction were chronicled in the Press during the first seven months of 1914.”
— Sylvia Pankhurst, 1914.

Lets just say this one more time:

ONE HUNDRED AND FORTY-ONE ACTS OF DESTRUCTION.
IN SEVEN MONTHS.

Feminism was born as it remains today: a movement that uses violence to promote opression, bigotry, sexism, and tyranny.

Rutee Katreya
13 years ago

WWI? You think that’s when feminism started?

Dude, pick a subject. What you don’t know about it could form the core of a white star.

Anyway, for a dude trying to claim that feminism is about killing people, you seem remarkably shy about coming up with feminists doing that. Even your own example is only property destruction, and while I’m Not Amused by the destruction of museum artifacts as a budding historian, I can tell you now that property destruction just isn’t really where I go when I want to talk terrorism.

I talk about threatened lynchings, like what the Sons and Daughters of Liberty threatened to do to colonial tax officials, or *actual killings*, or threats of mass killings.

Property Destruction, strictly held to property destruction? Not nearly so much.

cynickal
cynickal
13 years ago

Feminism was born as it remains today

Kind of like your reasoning ability and emotional maturity.

Won’t someone think of the poor, suffering, middle-class, educated, white, male?
Why must they stand alone!?
Why must they never think of ANTHONY!?!?

So, Anthony, dude, how many acts of violence and tyranny have feminist perpetrated on you this year?
‘Cause you’re like, suffering like Cambodians under Pol Pot.

cynickal
cynickal
13 years ago

Hey look! ONE HUNDRED AND FORTY-ONE ACTS OF DESTRUCTION.
IN TWO DAYS!
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-13788491
Canada was born as it remains today: a country that uses violence to promote opression, bigotry, sexism, and tyranny.