There needs to be a Manboobz Addendum to Godwin’s Law to cover those who compare their lack of dating success to, you know, genocide. You may recall the charming Tumblr dude who equated dateless “nice guys” with persecuted Jews in Nazi Germany.
And now we have “white and nerdy,” the blogger behind Omega Virgin Revolt taking the datelessness=genocide thing a step or two further. As you might guess from the title of his blog, WAN doesn’t exactly have women beating a path to his door. Not even golddiggers, even though he is, he says, “a widly successful owner of my own business.” Women don’t even want to use him for his money? Why is that? Because he is not a — wait for it – “alpha” man.
Yep, it’s the same old dopey logic we’ve seen so, so many times before: Women won’t date me => therefore I’m not an alpha => therefore women won’t date anyone but alphas. WAN has added one more step to this illogical logic chaim: this makes them the equivalent of genocidal monstere:
The ideology that women act on is the ideology of Pol Pot, of the Killing Fields. Women want non-alpha men purged and intelligence is considered by women to be a lack of alphaness in a man. This is similar to the ideology that led to the killing fields. Many of the millions who were murdered by the Khmer Rouge in the Killing Fields were murdered for showing signs of intelligence. That included everything from education to the possesion of wristwatches and/or glasses. If modern geeky hobbies had existed in Cambodia in the 70s, I’m sure that would have been included along with wristwatches and glasses as evidence of intelligence, and anyone interested in geeky hobbies would have been murdered too.
He’s making a could-not-possibly-be-more-strained reference to the whole Alyssa Bereznak/Jon Finkel kerfuffle. Bereznak, as most of you probably already know, wrote a sort of snarky, sort of stupid piece for Gizmodo about her date with Finkel, a champion Magic the Gathering player, and said some mean things about him and his geeky hobby. Pol Pot engineered the deaths of roughly 2 million people, many of them urban dwellers and intellectuals forced to relocate to collective farms in the countryside. Many died of starvation; others were shot – or beaten to death, in order to save on bullets.
So, yeah, Bereznak and Pol Pot are pretty much identical.
WAN continues:
[T] ideology of what women are doing now and what Pol Pot did are very similar. The Killing Fields needed to be opposed for both moral and practical reasons and so must what women are doing now. Rebel at The Spearhead said that women are engaged in a “holy crusade” against men. … The Khmer Rouge was also on a “holy crusade”. As Rebel also said what is at stake is nothing less than civilization itself and your existence and freedom just as it was with the Khmer Rouge in Cambodia.
In an earlier post pretty much making the identical, er, “argument,” WAN takes aim at comedian Julie Klausner, who recently published a memoir called I Don’t Care About Your Band: What I Learned from Indie Rockers, Trust Funders, Pornographers, Faux Sensitive Hipsters, Felons and Others. In her book, and in some interviews about the book, Klausner made some unflattering comments about “beta males” and “immature” men. This sends WAN into a rage:
Hitler, Stalin, Mao, or Pol Pot would be proud of this cunt. She all but calls for concentration camps for her “useless beta inferior men” who secretly run the world. …
Ah, classic weasel words: “All but calls for.” In other words, she doesn’t actually call for concentration camps, or even rock ‘n’ roll fantasy camps, for men in any way shape or form. Never mind. WAN continues:
Somehow these “straight angry nerds” who are “useless and inferior” took over the world when no one was looking and this cunt says “something needs to be done” about this “epidemic”.
This type of thinking is widespread among women. …
[I]t’s no surprise that a lot of men are saying they think they would be better off with the Taliban running things. While I’m not sure that isn’t just trading one set of problems for another … I understand what these men are thinking. Anything has got to be better than this.
So: Nerdy men are “oppressed” by women who won’t date them. The solution to this imaginary oppression: oppress women for real.
I couldn’t make this shit up.
You really don’t read for comprehension, do you?
Nobinayamu beat me to it, but yeah, look at the header of the site. It’s not hate, it’s mockery. If you can’t tell the difference, that’s on you.
If the purpose of your empty life
Projector Shields: not actually as cool as deflector shields.
I’m not the one wasting every day of his life on a ‘mocking’ site.
You are doing a good job of wasting this day.
I’m not the one wasting every day of his life on a ‘mocking’ site.
Nope. Just today.
That you could ever think a single site represents the sum of my or anyone else’s existence on the internet alone, let alone my or anyone else’s social life and free time in general, doesn’t bode well for your social life and free time, dude. Projection or lunacy, either is possible.
Jinx, Bostonian! You owe me a Coke.
Whoever “Poster” is over in the comments section of that link just answered it pretty thoroughly. You guys just don’t like the answer, and OVR is currently fussing at Poster — I can’t imagine that OVR was any less whiny and entitled as a “non-misogynist” as he is now, and he’s currently very whiny and entitled. Unattractive!
Indeed I do, Captain Bathrobe! It will have to be virtual, though.
“Get off,” huh. You’re terrible at reading comprehension, you don’t know how to debate effectively, you have a miserably poor understanding of feminism, and not a single woman here would ever deign to — oh OH OH. MOCK HARDER! THAT MOCKING IS SOOO GOOOOD!
…Sorry, what were you saying?
I see Alex Novy has much bigger balls there than he does here, and is not actually a tone troll when he’s among his own. Not that he was unobvious about being an MRA but…
Anyway, WAN’s idiocy is self evident. I’m glad Poster took him down a peg on his own site, but it makes no difference. We don’t have to jump because he says jump. He has to substantiate his idiotic claims before they should be taken seriously by anyone. Good luck with that.
He also pulls the, “lurkers support me in e-mail” about everyday life.
I do not understand the “lurkers support me in email” thing. If people support an opinion, they usually feel free to write it in comments on the blog.
ZOMBIE Daly-led feminist dictatorship. Which is like twenty genocides in one!!! Or not getting laid for a month. Both of which are completelt equivelent!
So you technical writer but can’t read for comprehension. You must write the help docs for Windows.
Boy, those feminists with ther goals of ensuring all people are treated equally and fairly sure are cliquish! What a bunch of bullies they are for telling people that projecting personal problems on half the population probably isn’t condusive to getting laid.
Of course, but the beatdown courtesy of Poster is a satisfying read. WAN’s replies to Poster are… unconvincing. A lot of frothy “nuh uh”ing. Is anyone surprised? :p
These guys think we’re being mean to them by repeatedly explaining their flaws, but it’s really a kindness. While there’s only a very small chance that they’ll eventually stop crying and start listening, it’s certainly more of a chance than they’d have if we completely left them to their own MRM devices! Goodness knows I’m not suffering because a MRA has flushed himself out of the dating pool — by whinging on and on he’s only hurting himself, and definitely not accomplishing any of his girl-meeting goals. When we give them the honest scoop about why women don’t like them it’s painful for them, but if they’d actually consider taking our advice it would do them a lot of good!
The lurkes support me in e-mail is a usenet trope, it’s the, “everybody really agrees with me, but they are afraid to say so because all of you are so mean,” idea.
Alek said that “all men” really think the same sort of things as are being said in that blog.
And yeah, his idea that one ought to be, “civil” seems to be different when the idea is that women suck.
Wasn’t he arguing that he wasn’t an MRA?
Well, you are an internet bully, hat with your facts and citations and studies and things! That’s just like being sentenced to a GULAG!
Eh, I’d rather be a caddy bitch than someone who thinks datelessness is the same as genocide.
Is a caddy bitch someone who carries the golfers’ clubs but makes fun of their game at the same time? ‘Cause that would be awesome. 🙂
Boy, those feminists with ther goals of ensuring all people are treated equally and fairly sure are cliquish! What a bunch of bullies they are for telling people that projecting personal problems on half the population probably isn’t condusive to getting laid.
Funny that you say that. Projecting their personal problems on half the population seems to be exactly what feminists do when I read some feminist blogs. Just look at the links in the blogroll. Fair and equal treatment is way down on the list of priorities. Feminisms biggest problem at the moment is that most women actually like men.
Luke is entering the Not Even Wrong territory.
Luke: Please, explain what you mean by the blogrolls. Because I’m confused as fuck. You can tell a blog’s content by the title? Shakesville, then, is clearly for people with Parkinson’s and MS! Hark, a Vagrant is by homeless people, for homeless people!
Yeah, it’s really funny, because nearly all of the women who post regularly on the blog say they like men–even those who are sexually attracted to women exclusively. In fact, the only man-hating feminist I’ve ever known personally was a somewhat odd and damaged person I met in college. I’m not even sure she identified as a feminist, but she hated men because she had been a victim of childhood sexual abuse. I couldn’t agree with her (being a man and all), but I could understand where she was coming from.
Yeah, feminists! Just because women are the half of the population overwhelmingly targeted by things like harassment and rape, which are overwhelmingly committed by the other half of the population, doesn’t mean you’re not just projecting your personal problems onto men! Why can’t y’all please just stop blaming other people for what happens to you, even if those people literally perpetrated it?
“Feminisms biggest problem at the moment is that most women actually like men.”
Yes, we… we do like men.
Many straight women like men. Also gay men. And bi people too! 😀
Why is this a problem for feminism, exactly?
Pandagon:
Activist introspection
Politics
Politics
Post on why it’s okay to have personal hangups (with absolutely no projection)
Cooking
Feminism
30 Day Challenge
Feminism
Geekiness
Geekiness
Not sure if this falls under anything
Feminism
politics
politics
Care to actually substantiate your bullshit claim, Luke?
“What I want to know is: what would happen if Andrea Dworkin rose from the dead and bred a mutant army of zombie-manginas using the stolen sperm of Larry Flint? What if she was receiving secret signals from Hitler’s cryogenically preserved brain? What if Richard Simmons was elected Pope and forced all the Cardinals to wear running shorts?”
I still can’t stop laughing at this comment, <3 Captain Bathrobe.