There needs to be a Manboobz Addendum to Godwin’s Law to cover those who compare their lack of dating success to, you know, genocide. You may recall the charming Tumblr dude who equated dateless “nice guys” with persecuted Jews in Nazi Germany.
And now we have “white and nerdy,” the blogger behind Omega Virgin Revolt taking the datelessness=genocide thing a step or two further. As you might guess from the title of his blog, WAN doesn’t exactly have women beating a path to his door. Not even golddiggers, even though he is, he says, “a widly successful owner of my own business.” Women don’t even want to use him for his money? Why is that? Because he is not a — wait for it – “alpha” man.
Yep, it’s the same old dopey logic we’ve seen so, so many times before: Women won’t date me => therefore I’m not an alpha => therefore women won’t date anyone but alphas. WAN has added one more step to this illogical logic chaim: this makes them the equivalent of genocidal monstere:
The ideology that women act on is the ideology of Pol Pot, of the Killing Fields. Women want non-alpha men purged and intelligence is considered by women to be a lack of alphaness in a man. This is similar to the ideology that led to the killing fields. Many of the millions who were murdered by the Khmer Rouge in the Killing Fields were murdered for showing signs of intelligence. That included everything from education to the possesion of wristwatches and/or glasses. If modern geeky hobbies had existed in Cambodia in the 70s, I’m sure that would have been included along with wristwatches and glasses as evidence of intelligence, and anyone interested in geeky hobbies would have been murdered too.
He’s making a could-not-possibly-be-more-strained reference to the whole Alyssa Bereznak/Jon Finkel kerfuffle. Bereznak, as most of you probably already know, wrote a sort of snarky, sort of stupid piece for Gizmodo about her date with Finkel, a champion Magic the Gathering player, and said some mean things about him and his geeky hobby. Pol Pot engineered the deaths of roughly 2 million people, many of them urban dwellers and intellectuals forced to relocate to collective farms in the countryside. Many died of starvation; others were shot – or beaten to death, in order to save on bullets.
So, yeah, Bereznak and Pol Pot are pretty much identical.
WAN continues:
[T] ideology of what women are doing now and what Pol Pot did are very similar. The Killing Fields needed to be opposed for both moral and practical reasons and so must what women are doing now. Rebel at The Spearhead said that women are engaged in a “holy crusade” against men. … The Khmer Rouge was also on a “holy crusade”. As Rebel also said what is at stake is nothing less than civilization itself and your existence and freedom just as it was with the Khmer Rouge in Cambodia.
In an earlier post pretty much making the identical, er, “argument,” WAN takes aim at comedian Julie Klausner, who recently published a memoir called I Don’t Care About Your Band: What I Learned from Indie Rockers, Trust Funders, Pornographers, Faux Sensitive Hipsters, Felons and Others. In her book, and in some interviews about the book, Klausner made some unflattering comments about “beta males” and “immature” men. This sends WAN into a rage:
Hitler, Stalin, Mao, or Pol Pot would be proud of this cunt. She all but calls for concentration camps for her “useless beta inferior men” who secretly run the world. …
Ah, classic weasel words: “All but calls for.” In other words, she doesn’t actually call for concentration camps, or even rock ‘n’ roll fantasy camps, for men in any way shape or form. Never mind. WAN continues:
Somehow these “straight angry nerds” who are “useless and inferior” took over the world when no one was looking and this cunt says “something needs to be done” about this “epidemic”.
This type of thinking is widespread among women. …
[I]t’s no surprise that a lot of men are saying they think they would be better off with the Taliban running things. While I’m not sure that isn’t just trading one set of problems for another … I understand what these men are thinking. Anything has got to be better than this.
So: Nerdy men are “oppressed” by women who won’t date them. The solution to this imaginary oppression: oppress women for real.
I couldn’t make this shit up.
The definition of “alpha” seems to wander about a bit, stretching where necessary. Make a lot of money, but no woman? Not an alpha. 5’4″, bald, wears glasses, but does alright with women? Definitely an alpha. (from the comments on that post). Besides, if we kill off all the betas and lower, won’t the remaining men also be sorted by status? I thought alphas were by definition the top 20% of whatever’s around. Oh, wait, “definition”…. never mind.
Wow. He’s straining so hard to make the analogy, I think he may have pulled a muscle. I’ve gone through some pretty dateless lonely dry spells, but never once did I equate that with genocide. These guys really need to get over themselves.
if you lived in cambodia and the 70s and you could afford a wristwatch or glasses you were probably going to end up a target of the khmer rouge but not for the reasons this dude thinks
and i love the unquestioned assumption that ‘geeky hobbies’ = smarter than
Pecunium, that’s because he has no center. NWO will quote from a website that denies the holocaust on one day and compare feminism to the holocaust the next. He will swear that women’s sole expression of sexuality is cock-teasing and that this is the reason men are driven to sexual assault… and turn right around and use the other side of his mouth to claim that women are always lying about rape.
He is defined by nothing so much as he complete intellectual inconsistency, lack of integrity, and straight out dishonesty.
And… that’s totally in the wrong thread. My apologies.
On topic, not wanting to date someone and possibly making fun of them is exactly genocide. I don’t care what any of you say.
Huh, which genocide should we compare nerdy women not getting dates to? Rwanda? I totally feel comfortable saying, from my middle class white lady life, that getting rejected by a dude is probably just as bad as being murdered with a machete if not worse… that seems reasonable, right?
I think you are silly, and I’m not currently dating you. MWAHAHAHAHA FEEL THE POWER!!
It says something about how cozy your life is when the worst thing you can think of is someone not wanting to date you.
Wow. I don’t have words for this bullshit. White straight dudes don’t have to fear for their lives for existing, and this jackass thinks he can compare his situation to a motherfucking genocide. Fuck.
2 million may sound comparatively small, but Cambodia’s not a big place: per capita, the Cambodian genocide remains the worst in history, with one fifth of the population dead.
That’s a lot of stupid to pack into a pretty small space…
Jeezus. I don’t have words.
And yeah, the Gizmodo piece was both mean and kinda shooting themselves in the foot – I would there’s some pretty significant overlap between Gizmodo’s target audience and people who play magic.
I would THINK there’s… I’m gonna go read Pirate King, I’m clearly to burned out to deal with anything like typing tonight.
The only people I’ve met on this site advocating genocide are MGTOW or MRAs: DKM is literally yearning for the upcoming Gender/Race War, of course, but if people actually tried to implement Anthony Zarat’s ideas, the resulting disruption would lead to economic collapse and possibly starvation. More like the Great Leap Forward.
Yes. I am sure the reason he is dateless is because he’s nerdy. Not the fact that he says and thinks things like this.
Smart women date nerds. They do this because they are interesting, smart, and have cool things to say. This guy is a dumbs therefore smart women won’t date him. He self selected himself out.
Dipshit.
xD…Dramatic much?
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dont forget marc, who literally advocated a khmer rouge style agrarian dictatorship
@Ray Percival No, actually being a nerd is a significant detriment on this ground. Of course, this is kind of a thing nerds *PARTIALLY* bring on themselves; Nerd-dom in general is extraordinarily male biased, compared to the general population. Nerds can be horrifically misogynist; I remember when WAR refused to make female uhhhh… don’t remember the class name, but the Chaos Tanks. They couldn’t ‘make a good design’. Really? Becausethere were some great ones by fans alone. No, you just didn’t want women to be big, hulking bruisers (Not a lot of gender dimorphism in classes). the fans, mostly went “WHY DO POLITICALLY CORRECT WOMEN KEEP HAVING TO ALTER OUR FLUFF”, despite A: the DEs having their fluff changed for similar ‘political correctness’ reasons (Oh wait, but if they didn’t DE casters and healer players MIGHT HAVE TO BE CHICKS), and B: the fluff already having women in this basic faction and role.
But nerds aren’t all of it. Women get it worse by the rest of society for being nerdy too. Like our own peers growing up. I have seen the difference in sniping the smart kids; it’s not remotely comparable, which is pretty bad because even boy nerds get it pretty bad.
Ray,
would you like to amend that to “many smart women are open to dating nerds, some even doing so preferentially” or something else a little less entitled?
So, the fact that Jon Finkel got hundreds (thousands?) of dating offers after Bereznak’s article came out — well, maybe those ladies were just being sarcastic. Because clearly, the evidence before us showing that one blogging intern finds nerdy hobbies unattractive proves to a certainty that no woman would ever date nerds, and that we have in fact killed the nerds of the world and are whittling their femurs into toothpicks as we speak. (Or had our hunky alpha boyfriends do that.)
YUP!
Nobinayamu: I don’t know that there is a bad thread to point out the actual flaws in NWO. It’s not that he’s male. It’s not that he’s imperfect, it’s that he think the first is culturally disadvantage, and the second wouldn’t matter if he weren’t so proud of the things he is inept at.
The rest of it.. his willful insistence on the rightness of his arrant nonsense, his casual abuse of all who don’t agree with him, the ways in which any actual facts are dismissed with passive aggressive faux apologies, those are the grace notes to his lack of consistency.
Hatred of women not being second class citizens, and, apparently of white men not ruling the world he lives in are what seem to drive him.
Rutee,
You’re confusing gamers with nerds. A nerd can play games but all gamers aren’t nerds and certainly not all nerds are gamers. As Orion points out I phrased what I meant badly. But there are many women who love to date nerds. Many of the, as you point out, nerds themselves.
In the example you give those guys aren’t not getting dates because they’re nerds or even gamers. They’re not getting dates because they’re creepy, immature, and not really all that bight.
Women who do like to date nerds like intelligence. In general. Your example is of not so bright or thoughtful people. Stupid comes in all shapes.
Orion,
Yes. Rereading it the way I said it you are correct. That’s a much better way of saying what I meant. Please do me the favor of reading my earlier post with more qualifiers and such. I did get a bit absolute there and it’s certainly not justified.
And, yes, I’m treading close to a no true scotsman fallacy here and cutting some hairs rather thinly. But I think the distinction is both real and important.
Yet another Nice Guy who does not understand that social hierarchies exist in fundamentalist religious societies as well, and there are still “beta men” in cultures were polygamy is the norm. WAN needs to look into the Lost Boys phenomenon amongst the FLDS for an illustration of this. Low status boys and young men are expelled from the group so that the elders have all of the girls for themselves. I suppose WAN would argue that Lost Boys are somehow the fault of women as well. When women are literally treated like chattel, there are still a small number of men who hold an inordinate amount of power over everyone else, including beta males like WAN. And yet this utter moron thinks that women are the ones oppressing him.