At first glance, Alcuin’s blog would seem to be some sort of parody. The blog’s slogan – “Promoting the Intellectual Renaissance of Western Patriarchy” – seems so over-the-top pretentious that even the smuggest of would-be intellectuals wouldn’t be able to post it with a straight face.
But if Alcuin is a troll, he’s a dedicated one, and one (at least based on my less-than-exhaustive survey of his blog) who never seems to break character. So I’m assuming he’s real. Which makes him a pompous ass with a lot of irritating ideas he’s somehow convinced himself are new and interesting. Take (please!) his recent post “Back Where They Belong.” And yes, “they” mean who you think, and “where they belong” means where you think.
Men should run the government, business, education, and religion. Women should stay at home. Young unmarried women can briefly work as kindergarten and elementary teachers, but there are no reasons why men can’t usually do this as well.
I’m not sure if Alcuin understands that women actually hold most of the jobs that currently exist, and that removing virtually all of them from the workplace would cause the economy to implode like, well, Alcuin, if you suddenly removed all of his idiocy. Also, how many kindergarten teachers do we really need?
As long as women run things, men will continue to be sidelined and slandered because feminism is a zero-sum movement.
Women … run things?
There can be no peace between the sexes until women are back where they belong. The sexes are meant to complement each other rather than compete and put one another down.
Yes, and the best way to show how the sexes “are meant to complement each other rather than … put one another down” is for one of the sexes to, er, put the other down by sending them back into the home.
Women have no business being lawyers, judges, educators, doctors, bureaucrats, writers, or religious leaders. Their attempted leadership in these areas, an illegitimate coup d’etat, is destroying our society.
I agree. Lady Pope is doing a terrible job of dealing with all those abuse cases!
Sadly, they prefer to enjoy their present situation, and let society rot, than go back where they belong and participate in building things again. Much like enjoying the concert on the sinking Titanic – though in this case, don’t expect chivalrous men to jump into the cold water so the ladies can have space on the lifeboats.
A little Titanic humor always enlivens a dull rant, eh?
Knock knock!
Who’s there!
An iceberg!
Damn, I guess we shouldn’t have kept going in zero visibility in a part of the ocean where icebergs had been recently sighted, in our ship that doesn’t have enough lifeboats for everyone!
I crack myself up sometimes. Back to Alcuin:
Feminism is a hate movement that brings out the worst in women.
Unlike the Men’s Rights movement, a hate movement that brings out the best in men!
It hates women because it hates femininity and motherhood, the chief characteristics of what it means to be a genuine woman. It brings out the worst in women by turning them into men, or trying to masculate them.
Damn you, feminism! Don’t go masculating those ladies! First they want to wear pants, and the next thing you know they’re growing ironic mustaches and using Axe Detailers instead of loofahs and subscribing to Bass Fishing Monthly.
It hates men because it blames everything on men, and regards masculinity in men to be evil. It emasculates men at the same time. Gays and, much more secondarily, manginas, are somewhat acceptable to the gynocracy, especially when the furniture needs moving or some bitch can’t pay her own bills.
Because when you need furniture moved, or some money, you call … the gays? Is this some new gay stereotype I’m not aware of? I mean, manginas, sure, manginas are furniture-movers and money-to-bitches conduits extraordinaire. That’s how they get access to pussy, after all.
But what’s the incentive for the gays? They don’t need pussy; they’d, presumably, prefer to spend their money on tiny dogs and gym memberships than on some bitch’s bills; and while gays may have strong opinions about where the furniture should go, are they really interested in carrying it there themselves?
Women generally use men, and feminism continues this grand tradition. A man’s value is defined according to his use to women. Deeper than that, feminism regards men in the same way that the Nazis regarded Jews – men are Untermensch and cannot be granted the same rights and privileges that women are.
And … now we’ve got Nazis.
Feminism aims to bring men down, as it is a zero-sum movement. It doesn’t simply aim to improve the lot of women through, for instance, education, but seeks to exclude men from education.
It does? Last I heard, colleges were actually lowering their standards in order to enroll more guys.
Thus the current propaganda about campus rape, and the attempt to make it easier to accuse a university male of rape in the USA. Thanks, government. You are, once again, the handmaiden of misandry.
And handmaidens are bad. Not like Shieldmaidens.
Feminist hate will never be satisfied, so men can’t keep avoiding the issue. We must avoid feminism as much as we can, and educate each other about it and about alternatives.
Generally it is advisable to actually know something about something before trying to “educating” other people about it.
This intellectual Renaissance of Western Patriarchy business is a lot trickier than you might think.
OMG, David is engaging in CENSORSHIP!!!1!!eleventy! On his own blog, where he gets to make the commenting policy! When will the fymynyst oppression end??!?!?
“There is no way to to wear a swastika ‘ironically.’ It does not work like that. The symbolism of the Nazis should be consigned to the rubbish tip, not celebrated.”
Swastikas are painted on homes and shops and used in ritual all over Hindu/Buddhist South Asia even today, as they have been for thousands of years.
Swasti means “good is” in Sanskrit, so the symbol is an beneficient one.
Hitler completely misappropriate this ancient cultural symbol.
It’s a wider symbol than just India. It can be found in pottery/weaving in the American SW, and it’s found in German decorations. It’s found in Tibet.
But it’s use, and the associations are permanent. He used it, and for the western world, it’s going to take a long time, longer than anyone here is likely to live, and; probably for the best, quite some time longer than any of our offspring are going to live.
Part of the reason for that is the racists who will persist in keeping it associated with him. Until that cultural legacy has evaporated, the more mundane uses of it will have to remain more personal than public.
Geez, I think that spelling just oppressed my eyes… :p
Would you believe I never actually tried falafel until college? That is like 18 years of not eating something delicious for no reason! Shameful.
Dave is really Batman.
This Alcuin seems to have ideas worth listenng to! Who says it is “putting down” women anyway to recognise that their work is primarily work taking place in and around the home? After all, no sane person thinks that it is “putting down” men to acknowledge, or even to celebrate, that OUR work is primarily work done outside the home?
Women (because they are females) are often better at some things–especially dealing with domestic matters, than men are,, and that’s wonderful; and they are often markedly inferior (because they are females) at many others which men tend to excel in outside the nome,, and that is wonderful too!
Alcuin realizes that. Interestingly enough, the things that men do best, as a rule, are the very things that women often demonstrate pronounced inferiority at, and thus the activities of both sexes complement each other, both in and outside the home and family, beautifullly! Understanding this leads to prosperous, healthy, and successful families and communities. Denying–or ignoring–this inevitably leads to the bloody messes that we are experiencing today in the USSA and around the world!
When will manboobz.com recognise these simple and permanent facts of nature, and instead of being uncomfortable with them–calling them “misogyny”–celebrate it? Egalitarian feminists on this blog will spit sparks, but everyone has been paying too much attention to THOSE horrid harpies anyhow!
PEACE AND FREEDOM!!
David K. Meller
“No sane person thinks that it is “putting down” men to acknowledge, or even to celebrate, that OUR work is primarily work done outside the home?”
I do. It’s a misandric stereotype that men are naturally slobs and incapable of taking care of their children. Especially that last one! Men are just as compassionate and loving as women, just as self-sacrificial, just as hard-working, just as stern when necessary and kind when necessary and wise enough to tell the difference; they are equally capable of being the primary caregiver.
To say differently is to insult my father, who raised me from when I was a small child, woke up at four AM every morning so he’d be home from work in time to pick me up from school, helped me with my homework, drove me to extracurricular activities, cooked me dinner, gave me hugs when I cried and candy when I succeeded and in every way took care of me.
Men–at least most men– are certainly able, in a forced put or emergency, to undertake the work normally done very well by the women of the household, and it is indeed wonderful that you were blessed with such a father!
However, families, and their communities, work at their best when men do what they, as a rule, are best at doing, and women do, as a rule, what they are best at doing. This doesn’t–and mustn’t preclude exceptions, but recognising what they are, EXCEPTIONS(!), certainly doesn’t, and mustn’t, mistake an exception for a norm, still less some sort of ideal!
Your father, remarkable as he was, probably raised you in a larger environment where many, indeed most, of the other men did their primary work outside the home, and the women did most of their work with the home and the children
Of course, none of the above appllies to the hordes of modern women who in their frantic quest to foolishly imitate men, end up treating their children more like potted plants being given “qualtiy time” while ‘supermom’ is balancing being a fortune 500 CEO with girlfriends, lawyers,travel, and of course, “marriage” (to her fourth husband, busy with affairs of his own)..And we keep hearing that our society should do more to accomodate these lunatics?.
PEACE AND FREEDOM!!
David K. Meller
dkm do you actually know any working women or do you just skulk in the bushes outside office complexes muttering about ‘those damn bitches’ before security shows up to remind you youve been warned about this before
like how do you live in the actual world and still manage to invent this creepy delusional nonsense?
The really wonderful thing about David K. Meller and his bizarre rants is knowing how much his repugnant views have alienated him from polite society. People find him tedious, avoid his company — or smile politely, hoping he’ll notice quickly the strained impatience on their faces as they wait for the first moment to excuse themselves.
He marginalizes himself through his wrong-headed beliefs about everything. Nothing he ever wants will gain any kind of popular acceptance, as wrong-headed, hateful, and downright evil as all his pet theories have proved to be.
With that in mind, it’s a little amusing — and a lot sad — to consider that he wants women to stay at home. Successful women working as lawyers, entrepreneurs, teachers, physicians … it’s like a stake in his shriveled heart because he can’t have that success. He thinks that if women were forced to stay home, he could enter the general population of men and gain the acceptance that’s eluded him all his life.
But as with everything else he thinks, this too is wrong. He will never be accepted. Who would willingly align themselves with that?
And his belief that he’d be able to find a willing woman-partner if women were forced out of the workplace — that’s just pathetic. Wait for the robot ladies, David K. Meller. It’s more humane than forcing a living human being to pretend that you’re not a disappointment to everyone who enters your life. You say that women are good at domestic things (although men can do them too — even better, if only they weren’t so concerned with being so important and manly), and men are good at everything else. What are you good at, David K. Meller? You’re not good with facts. You’re not good with people. You’re not good at being right or being kind or being loved or accepted. You appear to be very good at hate and at consistency and at narcissism — all three qualities which lead only to your marginalization and ridicule.
I mean, it’s interesting reading these stupid fucking rants, but it’s downright heartwarming to know that these are ideas that will always be rejected and laughed at by larger society.
No, actually, my father was friends with a bunch of other primary-caregiver dads– one of them was a stay-at-home father, a couple were freelance writers and some went on the mommy track for their kids. And he knew several other fathers who said that they would do the same thing if it weren’t for the giant amounts of shit they’d get for doing it from assholes like you.
And even so, all the moms of all my friends worked outside the home. That’s the way of the future, asshat.
A stereotype that advantages men and gives them an unequitable distribution of labor in their favor is not misandristic by any means of the imagination.
One of my best friends had a primary caregiver dad, also. He was a happy dude, taking care of the kids and keeping the place clean. I believe the mother worked for one of the arms development firms in the area as a researcher.
Women aren’t better at this than men due to any inherent differences. It’s because you asshats take it upon yourselves to leave the work to women. I’ve met precisely one man who has a legitimate reason not to be good at cleaning, and he’s blind. Everything else is laziness and an unwillingness to learn.
Women are not inferior at other tasks, either; that too is society’s jackassery, disadvantaging women once again. Is it any wonder that people who are raised to believe they are inferior at, say, math, have less effort put into their education by the educators, and are constantly denied their love of science or math, both by their schools and by their peers, are, surprise and terror, not as good at these kinds of things?
When they’re supported by the evidence, so if you want us to believe you, you’ll need to start warping reality to match your beliefs. Good luck with that. As is, your idiocy will continue to be true only in your own mind’s eye, and nobody gives a shit what you think.
DELUSIONS AND STUPIDITY
Meller, what’s up with your double commas and periods? Makes you look like even more of a dolt. MRA punctuation, it is a mystery.
BTW, what exactly do you do for a living? Is it some big, manly-man job, or are you just some pencil pusher who wishes he were successful?
My favorite thing is when he says that we’re clearly over educating women and, if they have to work, should be confined to jobs like teaching, nursing and being librarians. Because clearly those fields: 1) don’t have any women at all, no sir, and 2) don’t require advanced degrees.
Absolutely precious. In a disgusting, toad-like manner -of course- but precious, just the same.
dkm is like a backwards version of nice pete except i am pretty sure i would rather hang out with nice pete
Nobinayamu: “Women should be confined to jobs that require a bachelor’s degree!”
Dear David Futrelle,
Are you CERTAIN that your website manboobz.com is really dedicated to mocking misogyny?
After looking at these posts, and dozens, if not hundreds more like them, hatred of women starts to look more and more reasonable to an impartial observer. In fact, you may soon have to change the title of manboobz.com to something like womenbeinghateful.com! Certainly, after reading posts from Nobinayamu, Bee, amandajane5, KathleenB, hellkell, etc. hatred of these she-demons is the only rational, if not possible response for a man!
You–and manboobz.com–can’t really mock misogyny if the women posters here are all so hateful that misogyny is no longer ridiculous, but an entirely natural respose to the venom of these truly hateful harpies!
Almost every post seen here is one of a truly poisonous woman spewing bile at someone (usually a man) who simply disagrees with her in her opinion (delusion) that men and women are the same, and that he delights in a world where there are profound, ineradicable, fundamental, and universal differences–Praise the Lord!!–in other words, INEQUALITY between the sexes, and that far from being “oppression” or “bias” recognition of these differences form the basis of why men and women can enjoy one another! On a different level, they also explain reproduction and the emergence of the family, but one thing at a time!
How about it, Futrelle? Are there any plans to change the name of your website to something more truthful like womenbeinghateful.com.? There IS something called truth in advertising, you know.
PEACE AND FREEDOM!!
David K. Meller
Who’s this “impartial observer” you’re referring to, Meller?
DKM: Not a she-demon either. You really need to do some fucking research. I don’t hate all men, just the assholes (this is true for all people, actually.) I’m not an entitled princess of any kind. I’m just a person with a low tolerance for fuckwits and a very smart mouth. Hardly my fault you’re a delusional fuckwit.
I’m married to a man who is ten times (at least) the man you’ll ever be – he accepts me for a flawed human being who adores him, and I try to do the same for him. He calls me out when I’m being an asshole, holds me when I cry, and talks me down from panic attacks. He’s kept me sane during the worst times of my life and stood by me in the best. You’ll be lucky if you can get a chickbot who’s willing to put up with your shit. Who’s the better human here?
Aw, poor DKM thinks that manboobz women are hateful little monsters because we’re not offering to fuck him when he explains that we should be his slaves. Fuck right back off to your little fantasy worlds, DKM. I hear Gor is in your tastes.
Certainly, after reading posts from Nobinayamu, Bee, amandajane5, KathleenB, hellkell, etc. hatred of these she-demons is the only rational, if not possible response for a man!
Rly? o_O Which posts? o_O
Almost every post seen here is one of a truly poisonous woman spewing bile at someone (usually a man) who simply disagrees with her in her opinion (delusion) that men and women are the same, and that he delights in a world where there are profound, ineradicable, fundamental, and universal differences–Praise the Lord!!–in other words, INEQUALITY between the sexes, and that far from being “oppression” or “bias” recognition of these differences form the basis of why men and women can enjoy one another!
Examples plz! 😀
How about this, since you opened the door… xD
David posts something from his archives of what a misogynist has said (i.e. the kinds of stuff he posts about)…
and you show us an equivalent comment from one of the ppl you mentioned on Manboobz? :3
David, you up for it? 😀
Bee:
I’ve seen people call him on his bullshit on Stormfront. ^_^
DKM:
No love for me? C’mon, I was the one who told everyone here that you’re a real-life Internet Nazi and let them see all the shit you spew around other websites!
Oh, man. When fucking STORMFRONT is calling what you spout bullshit, that might just be a sign to stop. And maybe seek psychiatric help.
dkm cant distinguish people disliking him for being an abrasive, deluded asshole from some sort of general anger and hatred.
this is either because dkms unending fountain of rage prevents him from understanding that any could see the world is the same stark ‘us against them’ terms he does. it could also be because he is a moron who cant master basic geography. it is probably both.