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Man Boobz Super Fun Time Video Party 5: A Nice Guy’s plea

Tiny Bunny and Small Dog are trying a new look this week, or however long it’s been since the last one of these. It’s a crass attempt to appeal to space aliens.

This time the horrible misogynist quote comes from an anonymous confession on the web site Group Hug , a site devoted to anonymous confessions. In it, a Nice Guy argues that dating is all about “give and take.” Thanks to Denia for posting the link in the comments!

The full quote can be found below the video. (I did some teensy edits to it in the video.)

Mr. Anonymous 174618126 says:

You want a good guy to fall in love with you. Guys want some hot tail. That’s the game. You give and take, we give and take. It’s impossible for two people to even co-exist happily without this give and take process, let alone have a good relationship. So every time you tell me “Uh? I’m more than just a piece of ass, I’m—-” I don’t even hear the rest. I’m well aware you’re not just a piece of ass, you cunt. If I thought that, I wouldn’t talk to you and try to get your consent; I’d just take you. But to give the famous line “I’m more than just a piece of ass” is pretty much the same as saying you’re not interested in even entertaining the idea of us sleeping together. And that means you’re not worth my time or any man’s time.

I’m being fair. Women like you don’t want a man, you want a slave. Someone you can command to bark, sniff, and roll over. Something you can play fetch with. It would be the same thing if I came over to your house, forced you to give me head, and left. I don’t want to be a slave and you don’t want to be my bitch. So why is it so difficult to meet me half way?

I’m so sick of this shit. So very very sick. If you’re not interested in me then don’t fucking talk to me.

Mr. Anonymous 174618126, I feel safe in saying that no one who has read what you just wrote will ever want to talk to you.

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qwert666
qwert666
13 years ago

@ Sharculese

Could be, I suppose. Or it could be that I haven’t been spending my time commiserating with those obsessed with “mocking misogyny”. There are several other words/phrases that I haven’t heard in a while come to think of it; umbrella, polar bear, tea cup, green bean, flower pot, sapling, jigsaw, cool breeze, chemistry, lunar, thrush (the bird, I mean), carrot, chinchilla. Oh, and misogynist.

qwert666
qwert666
13 years ago

@ xtra

“Huge difference between your wallet and your body. Just saying.”

I totally understand, and agree. I’m not trying to compare the two crimes, just making the point about self-defence.

Nobinayamu
Nobinayamu
13 years ago

Didn’t qwert666 tell us he was leaving and wouldn’t be back? Apparently, he finds the idea of mocking misogyny so distasteful that he has to continue commenting here. Your disapproval has been duly noted. You are, as always, free to leave.

Sharculese
13 years ago

<i.Or it could be that I haven’t been spending my time commiserating with those obsessed with “mocking misogyny”.

thats true. its not really commiserating if we dont buy your lame excuses or give you the pity you keep begging for, i guess.

qwert666
qwert666
13 years ago

@ Nobinayamu

Now, now, Nobinayamu. So keen to see me leave? If I didn’t know you better I’d think that you wanted me to go. Why?

Sharculese
13 years ago

If I didn’t know you better I’d think that you wanted me to go. Why?

i cant speak for nobi but in my case its because your whiny and cant think of anything to say beyond ‘its sooo unfair to make fun of hateful things’

also, apprently youve now added passive-aggressive faux-erudite tut-tutting to your rhetorical arsenal and that shit makes my skin crawl

qwert666
qwert666
13 years ago

@ Sharculese

Pity is the virtue of the law, and none but tyrants use it cruelly.

Nobinayamu
Nobinayamu
13 years ago

Because you’re a whiny ass titty-baby who adds nothing of interest to the discussion. You’re also incredibly dishonest, lack the courage of your convictions, and you’re dull.

But mostly, it’s because you’re a titty-baby.

Bagelsan
Bagelsan
13 years ago

“Huge difference between your wallet and your body. Just saying.”

I totally understand, and agree. I’m not trying to compare the two crimes, just making the point about self-defence.

Except that handing over your wallet without a fight might result in nobody getting hurt, but “handing over yourself” to be raped means you are definitely going to get hurt. There is no don’t-get-hurt option in the rape scenario. Also, defending a wallet is defending your replaceable property not your irreplaceable self — they aren’t even both really “self defense.”

qwert666
qwert666
13 years ago

@ Nobinayamu

“But mostly, it’s because you’re a titty-baby.”

Pardon me but what is a titty-baby? This is a new one for me, I presume it has something to do with breast-feeding? A little confused here.

Sharculese
13 years ago

@nobi

cool so it was the same reason

qwert666
qwert666
13 years ago

@ Bagelsan

Again, I agree. I’m not trying to equate being raped to having your wallet stolen. In hindsight it was a bad comparison to make.

A personal experience of mine: I was attacked in the street by someone once, he was drunk and I could have easily hurt him quite badly if I’d chosen to. But he was with a group of his friends who were not so drunk and I thought it a better option to let him hit me a few times than get myself involved in a fight with four people. I think this is what I was getting at,I don’t know, maybe I’m just a coward.

Nobinayamu
Nobinayamu
13 years ago

Sharculese, yeah pretty much.

VoiP
VoiP
13 years ago

Pure speculation on my part. There is no evidence of his putting women on a pedestal, he obviously doesn’t state this is his comment, I just assume that this is what led him to his state of mind.

You expect us to accept this and yet, when we point out the obvious bigotry in the MGTOW, you hem and haw and split hairs like a Jesuit (you are, however, too dumb to be an actual Jesuit, hth). You don’t want a discussion. What you want is deference, and when you don’t get it, in about half a day you’ll stomp off, whining about how mean we were to you.

Now, now, Nobinayamu. So keen to see me leave? If I didn’t know you better I’d think that you wanted me to go. Why?

It may be that what you have to say blows just that hard.

Snowy
Snowy
13 years ago

“Pardon me but what is a titty-baby? This is a new one for me, I presume it has something to do with breast-feeding? A little confused here.”

Look in the mirror.

VoiP
VoiP
13 years ago

Hey, MRAL. Sobered up?

Men are not meaner than women, by the way.

For instance, no man has ever gone about his normal daily activities without failing to smile at you in the elevator.

qwert666
qwert666
13 years ago

@ VoiP

Christ, VoiP, just how angry are you? Your’e practically frothing at the mouth. No need to get so worked up. Why don’t we try this: if you don’t want to talk to me, then don’t. If you don’t want to read my comments, then don’t. Quite simple really, and you’ll save yourself getting all upset about nothing.

malcontent
malcontent
13 years ago

While I think it important to stress the point that a woman should not be blamed for putting up ineffective resistance to a rapist, nor for making the strategic decision not to resist, I’m not convinced fighting back tends to lead to a worse outcome. This article is from 1999, so a little dated, but the studies reviewed indicated that women who resist a rapist tend to fare better. Skip to the second part to read the data on forceful resistance.

VoiP
VoiP
13 years ago

Now, now, Nobinayamu. So keen to see me leave? If I didn’t know you better I’d think that you wanted me to go. Why?

Do you own a fedora and wear it unironically? Do you read CS Lewis (not the fantasy novels) without wanting to vomit? Chesterton? Belloc? I dunno, just a feeling I have.

malcontent
malcontent
13 years ago
Bagelsan
Bagelsan
13 years ago

I thought it a better option to let him hit me a few times than get myself involved in a fight with four people. I think this is what I was getting at,I don’t know, maybe I’m just a coward.

It’s not cowardice. I personally think that was probably a smart move, but I wouldn’t blame you for trying to fight back either; there was no guarantee that “a few times” would satisfy him, and not fighting back might have also been dangerous. And the difference between your situation and that of many women is that no one is gonna say you deserved to get punched, or that you must have liked the fight, or that you probably didn’t even get hit anyways (attention seeker!), just because you chose not to fight back — unlike in the case of rape where the woman gets blamed and doubted no matter what action she takes.

VoiP
VoiP
13 years ago

Christ, VoiP, just how angry are you? Your’e practically frothing at the mouth. No need to get so worked up. Why don’t we try this: if you don’t want to talk to me, then don’t. If you don’t want to read my comments, then don’t. Quite simple really, and you’ll save yourself getting all upset about nothing.

You must have misunderstood. This is me laughing at you. .

VoiP
VoiP
13 years ago

And this is Fluttershy from “My Little Ponies: Friendship is Magic” laughing at you.

Bagelsan
Bagelsan
13 years ago

Interesting article, malcontent. I would like to see a little more discussion of possible confounding factors — are women more likely to violently resist stranger rapes, and are these less likely to be completed anyways? Are physically strong/large women more likely to resist, making their resistance more effective than it would be from the average female population? Etc.

But overall kind of encouraging that women shouldn’t have to feel that they must avoid resisting, or that women who resist should feel responsible for any subsequent injuries.

qwert666
qwert666
13 years ago

@ VoiP

“You must have misunderstood. This is me laughing at you. .”

I’m glad I did VoiP. I’d rather you keep laughing at me than work yourself up into a frenzy.
I had visions of you hyperventilating and became genuinely concerned for you.

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