Tiny Bunny and Small Dog are trying a new look this week, or however long it’s been since the last one of these. It’s a crass attempt to appeal to space aliens.
This time the horrible misogynist quote comes from an anonymous confession on the web site Group Hug , a site devoted to anonymous confessions. In it, a Nice Guy argues that dating is all about “give and take.” Thanks to Denia for posting the link in the comments!
The full quote can be found below the video. (I did some teensy edits to it in the video.)
Mr. Anonymous 174618126 says:
You want a good guy to fall in love with you. Guys want some hot tail. That’s the game. You give and take, we give and take. It’s impossible for two people to even co-exist happily without this give and take process, let alone have a good relationship. So every time you tell me “Uh? I’m more than just a piece of ass, I’m—-” I don’t even hear the rest. I’m well aware you’re not just a piece of ass, you cunt. If I thought that, I wouldn’t talk to you and try to get your consent; I’d just take you. But to give the famous line “I’m more than just a piece of ass” is pretty much the same as saying you’re not interested in even entertaining the idea of us sleeping together. And that means you’re not worth my time or any man’s time.
I’m being fair. Women like you don’t want a man, you want a slave. Someone you can command to bark, sniff, and roll over. Something you can play fetch with. It would be the same thing if I came over to your house, forced you to give me head, and left. I don’t want to be a slave and you don’t want to be my bitch. So why is it so difficult to meet me half way?
I’m so sick of this shit. So very very sick. If you’re not interested in me then don’t fucking talk to me.
Mr. Anonymous 174618126, I feel safe in saying that no one who has read what you just wrote will ever want to talk to you.
qwert666: Could be, I suppose. Or it could be that I haven’t been spending my time commiserating with those obsessed with “mocking misogyny”. There are several other words/phrases that I haven’t heard in a while come to think of it; umbrella, polar bear, tea cup, green bean, flower pot, sapling, jigsaw, cool breeze, chemistry, lunar, thrush (the bird, I mean), carrot, chinchilla. Oh, and misogynist.
Don’t get out much, do you?
I’ve heard 10 of those in the past 48 hours.
And, in case you forgot, you’re still a misogynist, so I’m still not apologising for pointing it out.
So you’re just a garden variety MRA who managed to maintain a facade of caring about reality for about a full day longer than the others.
The fact that I care about, and live in reality is what separates me and the so-called “trolls” from the rest of the gang here. I’m happy I don’t have to live in crazy feminist-land where everything is a power struggle and everyone is out to get you. No wonder you’re angry all the time.
Amused: Thanks for the Women’s Studies 101 lesson. Just as pretentious, long-winded and irrelevant as the last time I read something written by a feminist.
(trigger warning, graphic language)
Johny B: No, it’s just stuffing your thumbs in people’s eyes to blind them is something I find repulsive. I’d rather kill them.
So yes, it’s something I find beyond the pale. But if it pleases you to think that having standards of behavior is pompous, so noted.
Amused: Thanks for the Women’s Studies 101 lesson. Just as pretentious, long-winded and irrelevant as the last time I read something written by a feminist.
And so we see again that’s it not reality, nor reasoned, but reactionary. A feminist said it, so it’s long-winded and irrelevant.
and, Q.E.F.D, we see (more plainly) what was pretty plain from the first… Johnny B. is misogynistic.
Johnny B: Could you please explain what it is about my description of objectification that you don’t like? Is it the whole idea that “objectification” isn’t a synonym for “lust” that’s got your briefs all in a wad, or is it the idea that women are within their rights to reject you even you find them attractive that you find “pretentious”?
@ Hershele Ostropoler
“qwert, if such attribution of motives isn’t kosher, you’re going to retract your defense of him, right?”
I wasn’t under the impression that I was defending the man. I was making an assumption as to what might be the cause of his rather warped view of women. As you have quite rightly pointed out this assumption was based on nothing more than fantasy, a point which I have conceded. If you saw it as a defence of him then it wasn’t intended as such.
Unlike some people here (not aiming this at you Hershele) I’m interested in the causes of people’s behaviour not just their behaviour itself. If it is desired to lessen or limit misogyny then I think it important to figure out the root causes of it, not just wag my finger and tut-tut at those who are displaying it.
@ Pecunium
Hey Pecunium, how’s it going? Made any good accusations lately? Managed to make any of them stick?
“I’ve heard 10 of those in the past 48 hours.”
Was thrush one of them perchance?
“And, in case you forgot, you’re still a misogynist, so I’m still not apologising for pointing it out.”
Just keep repeating it, I’m sure one day it will come true. Then you will be vindicated. Of course, I could well be wrong, and you’ll just continue to embarrass yourself ‘till the end of time. Who knows?
Johnny_b, why are you here? Serious question.
I see qwert is engaging in the act of public self-amusement.
But, since I’m bored, I’ll play with him. qwert You ask if I’ve made any accusations stick. The better question is have you managed to convince anyone with your defense.
I’m not the judge and jury.
So I’ll ask them: Guys, how many of you think quert’s not a misogynist?
“I have an hourglass shape, and it’s almost impossible to hide it. The breasts and hips are obvious. There are a zillion things I can’t wear without looking trashy. I sometimes order my dresses from a company that caters to Mormon women who want to dress modestly. The dresses still look a bit racy on me because of the way I fill them out. “
Oh wow, I just caught this. Malcontent, you’re absolutely right – there is nothing that can be done to camouflage an hourglass shape. It can only, and should only, be embraced. Don’t waste your time and certainly not your hard earned money trying to find clothing that will obscure it. Anything short of a burka is going to make the imprint of your body clear.
You are correct about the way women’s clothing is tailored. But I sympathize and if you’re a forum member and ever want to contact me about anything sartorial, or how difficult it can be sometimes to want to be dressed up when you go out with friends but not want to look, “trashy” feel free to PM me. This might be a bit presumptuous but I do really love clothes, and struggled with this mightily when I was younger.
@ Pecunium
I’m engaging in the act of “mocking Pecunium”, a rather easy game to play, as I have found.
I thought the burden of proof lay upon the accuser not the accused? Isn’t it innocent until proven guilty? Your idea of deflecting this onus onto me or even your friends is moderately clever, if completely spineless.
I’d be happy to appoint David the judge, he’s an honest chap after all, or so I’m led to believe. If David can spell out explicitly in what way I have proven my misogyny then I’d like to hear him do so, and will, if necessary, prove why David is wrong in his assumptions. On the other hand, if he believes, as I do, that you Pecunium are full of shit and have no grounds to accuse me then you might like to take it up with him, and apologise to me.
How does that sound to you?
But qwert… you were the one who accused me of making accusations that didn’t stick.
So… I asked the body as a whole if the “proofs” you have offered to date (i.e. you never said, in so many words, that you hate women), are enough evidence from the defense, to rebut the claims of the prosecution.
You, however, don’t seem to want that. You asked for a specific judge (one whom you have accused of being less than honest; the odd claim that Dave was accusing the subject of this post of being an MGHOW/MRA). Even in that you have weasel worded your instructions to that judge: You have set yourself up as the person who gets to define “explicitly”, and you assert that any such evidence proffered will be “proven wrong”.
Again, your saying, “I’m not a misogynist” doesn’t outweigh the level of apologia and justification you continue to make (see this thread, where the complaints of the subject were “because he had put women on pedestals”, which you admit you made up).
So no, I am not going to apologise, because I meant what I said, and you’ve not shown me any action which is in any way inconsistent with your being a misogynist.
@ Pecunium
I guess that my suggestion is not favourable to you? Maybe I just called your bluff and now you are flapping around in a panic?
I have nothing to hide here, It can’t be proven that I am in any way a misogynist because I am not one, and have given no cause for you to believe me to be one. You made the accusation, you prove it: or fucking apologise you coward!
I have to go out now for a while. I’ll return sometime tomorrow to discuss this matter further.
“Guys, how many of you think quert’s not a misogynist?”
Not me!
“On the other hand, if he believes, as I do, that you Pecunium are full of shit and have no grounds to accuse me then you might like to take it up with him, and apologise to me.”
Yeah, good luck with that quert666
qwert… go look at the timeline. I asked the body for their judgement… no qualifications.
You appealed to someone else, and hedged.
I made the accusation. I supported it. You don’t like it.
I don’t care. When you say that people who hate women have justifications for it. I call that misogynist. If you are willing to retract it, and say the things you formerly justified are not justifications… then I will retract the charge.
But I won’t apologise for it, because it was true.
“I now see that I am bashing my head against a brick-wall. For a bunch of people who claim to abhor bigotry and prejudice (some of you) have shown yourselves to be, quite frankly, full of it, in your treatment of me. You’ll be glad to hear that I don’t intend on returning. I’m going back to GMOW where I don’t have to deal with small minded and vicious little bullies such as those resident at ManBoobz. I leave here with my integrity as a MGHOW in tact and my conscience at ease, I doubt that those I leave behind can say the same for themselves.
MGTOW!”
qwert666, August 18, 2011 at 7:10 pm
“My parting shot to you muppets: The problem with this blog is that none of you are able to speak independently of each other. You are all far too concerned with remaining part of the gang, and so, you all think, or more accurately, say the same thing. It’s an amazing thing to see in action. Someone with an opposing view to yours attempts a discussion and the mob closes in, each “boob” trying to silence them in an attempt to gain the acceptance of the others. None of you here would have the balls (is that a sexist/misogynist term?) to GYOW even if you wanted too. You are all far too dependant on the approval of others. What a sorry bunch you are. And what a complete waste of my time.
MGTOW!”
qwert666, August 21, 2011 at 6:58 pm
Yeah, yeah, yeah, we get it. You aren’t a misogynist you just play one on the internet.
Why are you still here?
If we’re playing muppets… I want to be Rawlf the Dog.
I want to be Dr. Teeth!
I’m engaging in the act of “mocking Pecunium”, a rather easy game to play, as I have found.
why do all the trolls think being simpering and passive-aggressive is mockery
Sharculees: Because it’s easier than actual mockery.
Hyu keep hyuzink doze verds. Hy don’ believe dey mean vhat hyu tink dey mean.
i actually kind of hope qwert doesnt ghow because his adorably inept burns are hilarious
QWERT IS GOING HIS OWN WAY
back to this blog
I’d be happy to appoint David the judge, he’s an honest chap after all, or so I’m led to believe.
QWERT IS GOING HIS OWN WAY
to the ren-faire, Dickens fan club, or World War One reenactment event
August 18, 2011 at 7:10 pm… August 21, 2011 at 6:58 pm…
QWERT IS GOING HIS OWN WAY
eventually
Hey Sharculese, do you have stairs in your house? The way you mock people corresponds to the conventions of discourse on SA.
no, if youre picking that up its probably just cause i read mr destructo religiously
I’ll be Staddler and/or Waldorf.
“QWERT IS GOING HIS OWN WAY
“to the ren-faire, Dickens fan club, or World War One reenactment event”
Hey, Ren Fairs are cool! There’s giant turkey legs!
Also, dibs on Kermit.