Tiny Bunny and Small Dog are trying a new look this week, or however long it’s been since the last one of these. It’s a crass attempt to appeal to space aliens.
This time the horrible misogynist quote comes from an anonymous confession on the web site Group Hug , a site devoted to anonymous confessions. In it, a Nice Guy argues that dating is all about “give and take.” Thanks to Denia for posting the link in the comments!
The full quote can be found below the video. (I did some teensy edits to it in the video.)
Mr. Anonymous 174618126 says:
You want a good guy to fall in love with you. Guys want some hot tail. That’s the game. You give and take, we give and take. It’s impossible for two people to even co-exist happily without this give and take process, let alone have a good relationship. So every time you tell me “Uh? I’m more than just a piece of ass, I’m—-” I don’t even hear the rest. I’m well aware you’re not just a piece of ass, you cunt. If I thought that, I wouldn’t talk to you and try to get your consent; I’d just take you. But to give the famous line “I’m more than just a piece of ass” is pretty much the same as saying you’re not interested in even entertaining the idea of us sleeping together. And that means you’re not worth my time or any man’s time.
I’m being fair. Women like you don’t want a man, you want a slave. Someone you can command to bark, sniff, and roll over. Something you can play fetch with. It would be the same thing if I came over to your house, forced you to give me head, and left. I don’t want to be a slave and you don’t want to be my bitch. So why is it so difficult to meet me half way?
I’m so sick of this shit. So very very sick. If you’re not interested in me then don’t fucking talk to me.
Mr. Anonymous 174618126, I feel safe in saying that no one who has read what you just wrote will ever want to talk to you.
Logics tiemz!
If a woman is just a piece of ass, he will rape her.
If a woman is not just a piece of ass, he is not interested in her.
…troubles tiemz.
Hi Pat Bateman!
Jeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeebus.
“I’m being fair”
In keeping yourself waaaay the fuck away from me? Yes, that is a service you are providing.
So, there’s no way a woman can win against this argument.
Man: I’m going to treat you like a piece of ass.
Woman 1: No! I’m a real person, with my own interests, capabilities, desires and motivations.
Result: He thinks (logically) that she wants nothing to do with him, and thus that she isn’t worth his time. Really, it just means she’s not into jerks.
Woman 2: Ok.
Result: Man ignores her, because she doesn’t exist or he’d be raping her. She is into jerks, but doesn’t exist in his world, because he’s apparently not actually interested in women who like jerks such as himself.
There’s a guy who’s pissed he can’t rape whenever he wants.
Or, actually I suppose, all women win with him making those arguments.
Women he’s interested in don’t end up with a jerk, and women who are interested in him don’t end up with a jerk even though they aren’t opposed to dating jerks.
Goodness, I do wonder what unusual circumstances lead to SO many women reciting “Uh? I’m more than just a piece of ass” to this upstanding young gentleman that he has to call it “famous line”. Because I don’t recall saying anything like it, ever, to anyone, and can’t imagine doing so except in response to explicit, and fairly extreme, harassment. Am I unusual in this regard, Boobzerz?
No. And frankly I don’t recall ever having to say it to anyone, because 99% of the men I interact with are, well, gentlemen.
I’ve only ever said the “famous line” in a joking manner amongst friends.
Another one of those “relationships-as-legal-protitution” types, who thinks that men hate spending time with women and women hate having sex with men and they’re both just stolidly enduring it to get at the part they want. I can kind of understand how personal experience leads them to the second conclusion, since anyone this repulsive is unlikely to be lighting fires in any loins, but is needing someone around to vent to and work through emotional stuff with really such an alien concept?
Or maybe because they’re so unappealing themselves, the only women they end up dating are women with massive personality problems, who are themselves so unpleasant to be around that they have to settle for the creepy guy?
I don’t know how many times women have to say “I’m more than just a piece of ass”, because I can’t think of any time I’ve heard it said.
I’m unclear on what making a guy “bark, sniff, and roll over” consists of, exactly.
Speaking to her respectfully?
Doing things other than sex with her?
Leaving the house occasionally with her?
Sometimes paying for dinner and other activities?
This is why he has to talk in ludicrous metaphor; if he specified “and sometimes she even wants me to talk to her!”, he wouldn’t really get the pity party going.
I like how him actually listening to her and treating her with respect = him being her slave, and compares it to forcing her to give him head (which is rape). Also, his “logic” is really weird, you aren’t a piece of ass because I don’t rape you, but since you aren’t a piece of ass that means we won’t sleep together? So does that mean he feels fine raping women who have consented to sleep with him in the past since that makes them pieces of ass? Or are the women okay (in his mind) as long as they don’t call him out on his behavior (aka say the “famous line”)? I’m a little confused and very creeped out.
As an ambassador from the planet gargawoiw329823 I appreciate your attempt at outreach. However, if you earthlings are anything like the guy quoted in the clip, I don’t think we’ll be visiting anytime soon.
Oh, like … he’s talking about movies or something?
Add me to the list as another one who’s never said or heard anyone else say “the famous line.”
Also: If I am not interested in sleeping with a particular man, it follows that I am not worth “any man’s time”! Hmm. So, either I have to sleep with all men, or reconcile myself to the idea that I will never have any kind of time-based relationship with any man. Cool! Good to know.
His first paragraph makes no damn sense. It’s just a convoluted mess.
The second paragraph is easier to understand. He is describing a female archetype. One that often is unhappy, nags, whines, etc… So my advice to Mr Anon is to learn how to screen these women so you don’t get someone that is incompatible with you. Your complaining isn’t really going to solve anything…learn and adapt and those women that you don’t like, you can shrug off with minimal effort.
Lastly, you have to actually talk to girls to find out if one of you is interested in the other. What are you going to do…find a woman without uttering a word to her? Ya most likely not going to happen often.
I always find it funny that so many MRA/PUA/MGTOW critiques of women focus on the fact that women allegedly can’t tell the difference between a nice guy and a jerk.
They think all women have this problem, but really it’s just that all women who interact with THEM have that problem.
“I always find it funny that so many MRA/PUA/MGTOW critiques of women focus on the fact that women allegedly can’t tell the difference between a nice guy and a jerk.”
The irony of course being that these petulant little whiners are not nice guys at all. And we can see that for ourselves, which is why we want nothing to do with them. Although I HIGHLY doubt he has ever actually said, “I know you’re not just a piece of ass, you cunt” to a woman’s face. He’d probably piss himself and run away.
Okay so maybe the “…piece of ass line” is more of a general sentiment than actual quotation but beyond that I’m quite confused by this tool’s version of compromise.
I get to shut the hell up and let him go about his business of objectifying me, the lucky cunt who’s drawn his interest and he exactly does what in return?
Not rape me?
Or am I some kind of facepalm woman who’s internalised the “The Rules”, forever suppressing things to be the perfect trophy wife and because feminism or just basic modernity never registered, my entire well being boils down to being sexually desirable?
Because then it would be a “fair”, if utterly tragic trade off.
I am desired but must hold back on expectations bought by my status of desirability = win
He gets “his” desire but suppresses his urge to just plain assault me = win
If he sounded less desperate I’d suggest tracing his whereabouts to make sure he hasn’t got anyone trapped in a cellar.
Please, please do not read this as misogynistic or disparaging of all the women this lot are unfortunately attracted to. There’s status in being sexually desired and often a deference to that, hand in hand with the bit where they forget the cover girl’s as human as they are. Looks like today’s manboob just doesn’t want to defer.
Anyway, hi. Gotta love a feminist site where it’s okay to say “retarded” and the trolls make this place like FSTDT Interactive. Started lurking, time wasting while researching but found myself dealing with maddeningly sexist reality. They already think I’m a feminazi and I still need to vent somewhere for the sake of my sanity)
“I know you’re not just a piece of ass, you cunt”.
Lol. You’re more than a piece of ass, you’re a cunt. Those MRA’s crack me up.
Really? While it’s true that maybe he’s just an awful writer, I took him to mean that the woman he was describing in the first paragraph (all we know about her is that she wants her sexual partner to treat her as a person — not a piece of ass), by asking him to see her as a person, is “command[ing him] to bark, sniff, and roll over. [To be] Something you can play fetch with.” Further, he states that telling someone that you’re not just a piece of ass (and again, who does that?) is basically the same as forcing someone to perform a sexual act on you. And that recognizing that someone is not just a piece of ass is tantamount to slavery.
I think your advice is generally good — people should date people they are compatible with! — but in the case of Mr. Anonymous 174618126, it would seem he has deeper problems than that.
He needs a t-shirt: “Only talk to me if you want to get screwed.”
I would like to amend your t-shirt Pecunium. “Only talk to me if you want to go ‘Ah, fuck…'”
This is a good example of what the comments section is like with all the dissenters, like me, now on moderation- boring and samey, with the goal basically to repeat the same obvious criticisms over and over.