We’re taking a brief trip outside the manosphere today to take a look at a little posting I found on Jesus-is-savior.com – which, as far as I can tell, is not a joke site — on the evils of women wearing pants.
No need to dilly dally around with jokes; let’s just get right into it:
One of the most controversial subjects in America’s churches today is pants on women; but there is NO controversy if you believe the Bible. 1st Timothy 2:9 clearly instructs women to dress MODESTLY, i.e., of good behavior. A woman’s clothing says MUCH about her character. I guarantee you that women who approve of abortion (i.e., murder) also see no problem with women wearing pants.
Except, one presumes, while they are getting these abortions.
At this point the author, one David J. Stewart, quotes disapprovingly from a song by rapper Chingy, also on the subject of pants, specifically jeans. I won’t bother to quote all of the lyrics; you can get the gist of Chingy’s thesis from this brief excerpt:
Damn Girl
How’d you get all that in
Dem Jeans
Dem Jeans
Here’s the video, if you wish to double-check this transcription.
Stewart continues:
Only a rebellious woman, who deliberately disobeys the Word of God, would wear pants. … Pants on women are adulterous in nature, and cause men to lust and sin. Jesus made this clear in Matthew 5:28, “But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart.” Women who wear pants deliberately cause men to lust, and commit the sin of adultery. …
The average person today scoffs at the idea that Rock-n-Roll, Satanism, and immoral sex go hand-in-hand, but they certainly do. When Rock-n-Roll came to America, so did pants on women become mainstream. Naturally, feminism, witchcraft, abortion, and homosexuality came as well. Rock-n-Roll is straight from the pits of Hell. ALL rock-n-roll women wear pants.
Ah, but it turns out we haven’t really wandered too far from the manosphere after all – and not just because of the mention of feminism. No, what strikes me about Stewart’s argument – aside from the fact that it is completely batshit – is that it is not really very different than the arguments advanced by the critics of the Slutwalks: that the “immodest” dress of women causes men to “lust and sin.”
One of the most common complaints I’ve seen in the writings of the antifeminist slutwalk critics is that women want to “do what they want to, and dress how they want to, without facing any consequences,” as if women who dress in ways these men find arousing have in fact committed some sort of sin that requires punishment from, if not God himself, then from the rapists of the world.
The slutwalk critics invariably insist they’re simply passing along useful advice to women – don’t dress slutty or you’ll get raped – but the talk of “consequences” (and the choice of that word) shows pretty clearly that the real impetus behind the strangely vehement attacks on the slutwalks is the desire to punish women for dressing, and more importantly, doing “what they want.”
Say what you will about the folks behind Jesus-is-Savior.com, but at least their position on the evils of pants is consistent with their overall fundamentalist ideology. The slutwalk critics don’t really have an excuse.
EDITED TO ADD: And, conveniently enough, here’s some douchebag on Reddit making this exact slut-shaming “argument.” Pro-tip: I don’t think “responsibility” means quite what you think it means, dude.
Thanls, ShitRedditSAys, for pointing me to this. And to MFingPterodactyl for the sensible response.
Back to the title of David’s post. Wouldn’t you know it, but that’s what the carnies have to shout to get women properly prepared to ride me.
Dragonlance? 😀
There appear to be good guys (plural) in that picture. How about this?
http://images.wikia.com/dantesinferno/images/1/14/The_River_of_Blood.jpg
@Ami Women should wear skirts because it makes it easier for them to ride the Alpha Cock Carousel.
Men should wear pants because the convenient fly-zipping mechanism makes it possible for him to take off after mammoths at a moment’s notice, even in the middle of the oral sex he might be receiving at the time from adoring women.
It’s EVOLUTION!
@katz the MRAs are the good guys… durh
@Alpha w00t! you’re finally here! 😀 We can have a Q&A session! 😀
how many cocks do you have? :3 are they themed like rocketships or unicorns and horses and stuff? :3
No kidding. And those fellow women might be “bound and helpless” but I haven’t heard the safeword from any of them yet either, so full speed ahead! ^^
I’d just like to leave a picture of a rock n’ roll woman who doesn’t wear pants here.
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3239/2329881765_218b09d33d.jpg
enjoy
I think this post points out the ultimate fallacy with the ‘wear slutty clothes you deserve to be raped’ argument. Sluttiness is in the eye of the beholder. A woman might wear a set of clothes she thinks is perfectly fine, but other people may disagree. And apparently there are some people out there that consider even pants to be too slutty.
For years, [puppies] has fed upon the [kittens] of [ducklings] to pay for the [otters] [belugas]. But its [pandas] has grown too [meerkats] and now the [water rat] is coming after you for its [chipmunk] of [marmot].
It makes just as much sense this way.
“Homosexuality? Were us pants-wearing women just so inspiring of lust that some men stopped wanting to fuck us entirely?”
I’m so glad I wasn’t drinking anything when I read this . . .
It’s been a while since I saw it, but I recall Antz being a pretty good movie.
Anyway, here’s a Girls in Suits Tumblr that I’ve just browsed through.
My favourites are this, this, this, this, this, <a href=http://girlsinsuits.tumblr.com/post/604093183/loopdeville-olive-thomas-in-a-mans-suit, and this.
Oops, screwed up the tag on this one.
Also forgot this awesome fedora one.
Ah, awaiting moderation. Too many links.
The long and short of it is, I found a Tumblr with lots of pretty pictures of women in men’s suits.
Amazing! It’s like NWO and David K Meller got together and spawned, or something.
I wish I had access to my books, because this is a lot more complicated than classism/wealth.
For all that history has really screwed with Paul, and the Renaissance views of Rome/Greece have done the same to the classical age, Paul’s underlying message is very close to that of Jesus: Be gentle to one another; treat your fellows as equals.
Take the issue of headcovering: only women who were married (and free) were allowed to wear head coverings. Paul said that everyone was equal to the free/married (it was a different age). That meant the slave and the prostitute couldn’t be told apart from the women who were, “proper”, and chaste; which removed an aspect of social reminder of their second class status.
That same message is in all of his works (the deutero-Paul is more problematic). With the epsitles being written in Koine, and the culture to which his referents were related being lost, a huge amount of projection got stuck into turns of phrase.
And the people doing that projecting were jerks.
All of a sudden I feel sorry for Antz wife.
Katz:
I would love to see a picture of what it’s like inside AntZ’s head.
Lang’s “Metropolis” without the subtitles.
The long and short of it is, I found a Tumblr with lots of pretty pictures of women in men’s suits.
ZOMG SWOON
[i]nedbeaumontjr | August 18, 2011 at 10:05 pm
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I have said it before and I will say it again, but WHO LET THAT FUCKING POLAR BEAR IN HERE?
I mean really. We’ll let MRAs in, but seriously, structural engineers?
“The wedgies and occasional ball-displacement that pants can cause if improperly fitted give men the edge they need to remain ruff, tuff, and ornery (necessary alpha traits), while the airflow of a skirt helps keep women fresh (necessary to service alphas).
Speaking for myself, the clothing is less interesting than the person within, but who am I to judge a man on his skirt fetish?”
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Is this an episode of Twin Peaks? First MRAL’s sockpuppet, then Antz’s ranting, and now this?
Lol, this is a nightmare. The worst thing anyone could do to an MRA is saddle him with a brainless twit who wants to exchange servitude for protection.
I KNOW.
Especially because it seems that MRAs are mostly brainless twits who think they should be able to exchange protection for brainless servitude.
Is this an episode of Twin Peaks? First MRAL’s sockpuppet, then Antz’s ranting, and now this?
Would you like a piece of pie?
I see. So basically like this (it goes without saying that his mind has an inexplicable Freddie Mercury soundtrack):
That’s the darkest version of The Wind in the Willows I’ve ever read.
I wear pants accidentally. I assume that’s okay?