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For the love of God, ladies, take off those pants!

It's sinful when dogs wear them, too.

We’re taking a brief trip outside the manosphere today to take a look at a little posting I found on Jesus-is-savior.com – which, as far as I can tell, is not a joke site — on the evils of women wearing pants.

No need to dilly dally around with jokes; let’s just get right into it:

One of the most controversial subjects in America’s churches today is pants on women; but there is NO controversy if you believe the Bible.  1st Timothy 2:9 clearly instructs women to dress MODESTLY, i.e., of good behavior.  A woman’s clothing says MUCH about her character.  I guarantee you that women who approve of abortion (i.e., murder) also see no problem with women wearing pants. 

Except, one presumes, while they are getting these abortions.

At this point the author, one David J. Stewart, quotes disapprovingly from a song by rapper Chingy, also on the subject of pants, specifically jeans. I won’t bother to quote all of the lyrics; you can get the gist of Chingy’s thesis from this brief excerpt:

Damn Girl

How’d you get all that in

Dem Jeans

Dem Jeans

Here’s the video, if you wish to double-check this transcription.

Stewart continues:

Only a rebellious woman, who deliberately disobeys the Word of God, would wear pants. …   Pants on women are adulterous in nature, and cause men to lust and sin.  Jesus made this clear in Matthew 5:28, “But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart.”  Women who wear pants deliberately cause men to lust, and commit the sin of adultery.  …

The average person today scoffs at the idea that Rock-n-Roll, Satanism, and immoral sex go hand-in-hand, but they certainly do.  When Rock-n-Roll came to America, so did pants on women become mainstream.  Naturally, feminism, witchcraft, abortion, and homosexuality came as well.  Rock-n-Roll is straight from the pits of Hell.  ALL rock-n-roll women wear pants. 

Ah, but it turns out we haven’t really wandered too far from the manosphere after all – and not just because of the mention of feminism. No, what strikes me about Stewart’s argument – aside from the fact that it is completely batshit – is that it is not really very different than the arguments advanced by the critics of the Slutwalks: that the “immodest” dress of women causes men to “lust and sin.”

One of the most common complaints I’ve seen in the writings of the antifeminist slutwalk critics is that women want to “do what they want to, and dress how they want to, without facing any consequences,” as if women who dress in ways these men find arousing have in fact committed some sort of sin that requires punishment from, if not God himself, then from the rapists of the world.

The slutwalk critics invariably insist they’re simply passing along useful advice to women – don’t dress slutty or you’ll get raped – but the talk of “consequences” (and the choice of that word) shows pretty clearly that the real impetus behind the strangely vehement attacks on the slutwalks is the desire to punish women for dressing, and more importantly, doing “what they want.”

Say what you will about the folks behind Jesus-is-Savior.com, but at least their position on the evils of pants is consistent with their overall fundamentalist ideology. The slutwalk critics don’t really have an excuse.

EDITED TO ADD: And, conveniently enough, here’s some douchebag on Reddit making this exact slut-shaming “argument.” Pro-tip: I don’t think “responsibility” means quite what you think it means, dude.

Ah, Reddit, always reliable.

 

Thanls, ShitRedditSAys, for pointing me to this. And to MFingPterodactyl for the sensible response.

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Nobinayamu
Nobinayamu
13 years ago

Don’t worry, Spear; I couldn’t do it. Even I find Meller to be a repulsive toad and shudder at the very notion that there is anything in my closet of which he would approve… I couldn’t torch my dresses. I love them so.

Besides, hurricane’s a comin’. I couldn’t get fire started outside with a blow torch and a can of lighter fluid, it’s so humid.

The fabulous, Marlene Deitrich: http://theblack-nouveau.com/2009/07/09/marlene-deitrich/

David K. Meller
David K. Meller
13 years ago

P- I already defined “behave themselves” quite a few times, above and elsewhere, in terms where the meaning can be apprehended by anybody who knows how to read and write standard English, and is of more or less sound mind!

I even, in at least one Post above, Next to last paragraph, cited by [Voip @ 26August 2011@7:26pm] “invited’ nonwhites as well as Whites to join in the preservation of and perhaps the enhancement of European–especially Anglo Saxon and American civilization. It would even include Jazz, Blues, “Soul food”,Basketball, and Rhythm and Blues–with my blessings!

It would NOT incude: arson, crime, rape, crime, mayhem, crime, driveby shootings, crime, vandalism, crime, armed robbery, crime, looting, crime, and so on…

Learn to read, and then get back to me!

Any questions?

VoiP
VoiP
13 years ago

You forgot to mention that the alleged “neonazis” of stormfront.org took my criticisms of Hitler more intelligently and patiently than anyone on manboobz.com took my criticism of feminism.

I’m going to just leave this here. This is my new favorite sentence. I want it lasered into the moon.

I mean, I kind of feel like criticizing the idea that women have the autonomy to wear pants if they’d like and criticizing the KKK and Hitler for maybe being a little bit over the top are so different as to not be comparable in any way, but what do I know? I’m an affront to god. (Because of pants.)

Alas, Bee, the reason DKM’s mad at Hitler is not because DKM’s a moderate racist, but because he wasn’t white enough. BEHOLD

There is a natural reluctance to show approval or admiration for any politician and a German politician voted into office during troubled times should be no exception. One interesting point is that World War II, brought about primarily through the Hitler-Stalin pacts in Aug 1939, was, like its predecessor, WWI, an autogenocidal war among WHITE NATIONS!! Slavs, Nordics, Magyars, Frenchmen, (Both Gallic and Frankish) and Anglo-Saxon and Anglo-Celtic people were White Christians!! The fact that there were jewish elements (of varying degrees of influence) doesn’t change the fact that countless millions of European Whites were maimed or killed to fulfill Hitler’s vision for Germany.

The viciousness and barbarism characteristic of any war was intensified by Hitler and his National Socialism ideology. This war and its aftermath unavoidably created a self-defeating reaction among decent Whites of all nationalities against ANY racial conciousness on our part.

David K. Meller
David K. Meller
13 years ago

Nobinayamu,

Feel the love! Those dresses are lovely! Enjoy them!

Focus on what they represent, the beauty, the femininity, the allure, and the grace…

Don’t burn them. Treat yourself to some more. Embrace your “inner lady”. Show some leadership for a change, especially for your sister females. More–and Prettier–dresses, skirts, and gowns!!

PEACE AND FREEDOM!!
David K. Meller

PS–I know that you don’t really mean it when you call me a “repulsive toad”. It is just those hormones talking, isn’t it? DKM

VoiP
VoiP
13 years ago

Africans, wherever they are, the USA, the UK, France, Canada, or even in the Carribean or the African landmass itself, have consistantly shown a MUCH higher rate of violent crime–both against their fellows, and against nonBlacks–than Whites or Pacific rim Asians–to name two examples.

Do you have a citation for that? Make sure you source it properly, though; if the website’s in Comic Sans, it probably doesn’t publish peer-reviewed stuff.

Sharculese
13 years ago

I even, in at least one Post above, Next to last paragraph, cited by [Voip @ 26August 2011@7:26pm] “invited’ nonwhites as well as Whites to join in the preservation of and perhaps the enhancement of European–especially Anglo Saxon and American civilization. It would even include Jazz, Blues, “Soul food”,Basketball, and Rhythm and Blues–with my blessings!

well shit dkm. im really glad youre okay with jazz existing. i hear jazz was really worried about that.

Sharculese
13 years ago

good news jazz. youve got the permission of creepy internet racist. i know that was a huge issue for you. lets uncork some fucking champagne.

katz
13 years ago

Don’t burn them. Treat yourself to some more. Embrace your “inner lady”. Show some leadership for a change, especially for your sister females. More–and Prettier–dresses, skirts, and gowns!!

Poor dresses. They deserve better than a neo-Nazi jacking off to them.

David K. Meller
David K. Meller
13 years ago

S-and Voip

And your point is???

Sharculese
13 years ago

basketball is safe from dkms ludicrous internet pogrom! congratulations, sport invented by white people!

VoiP
VoiP
13 years ago

I called for White people to work against the NWO and the banking/diplomatic/media criminal oligarchies whose plan is the universal enslavement, if not destruction of all of us.Zionist Jews… the Ford Foundation, the Council on Foreign Relations, the Royal Institute for International Affairs, Rockefeller Brothers fund, Bilderbergers

Oh my. Please, tell us more.

So some noisy hack above (I forget who) is getting a Ph.D in Modern European history. All that means is that the media/academic apparat of the NWO… are paying for, and getting one more tame, brainwashed, bought-and-paid-for shill in some university or media outlet tomorrow to continue to bamboozle the sheeple. It says nothing about David Irving’s qualifications as a historian, and at this late date, given the kind of “graduate education” we have, says nothing about yours! I would take Dr. Irving’s word over yours any day, precisely because he faced PRISON for his research. Have you, comrade candidate Ph.D?

That would be me. I’m specializing in National Socialism, as pure coincidence would have it. As a matter of fact, I used to grade papers for [name readacted] Lovely man. Anyway, what are the odds? It’s like I walk into a party and someone else is wearing the same dress, only not, because I’m dedicating my life against everything you stand for.

Anyways, unfortunately for you, the standard of evidence that Irving had to meet is not “Did he go to prison for this stuff,” but “Is he correct.” Methheads go to prison, after all, and nobody’s allocating federal funding to fix the epidemic of bugs in their arms. Because—and I recognise you may be new to this—the way people determine correctness is not by asking themselves, “Will this make all my baser impulses feel oh so warm and fuzzy if it were true,” but by comparing what people say to evidence. And in addition to being weird and antisocial even before the Lipstadt trial (but certainly in bringing that trial), his statements are provably false.

Erratum: as he never received a doctorate, Irving’s title is “Mister.”

VoiP
VoiP
13 years ago

S-and Voip

And your point is???

That you suck, mostly. Sharculese, is that it?

Sharculese
13 years ago

my point involved him being creepy and delusional.

and the thing where i want to know whether ‘long night of lies’ was a botched pun.

and id still like to know whether sending me to a camp would be reckless antisemitism or acceptable antisemitism

and he sucks, mostly

Captain Bathrobe
Captain Bathrobe
13 years ago

I even, in at least one Post above, Next to last paragraph, cited by [Voip @ 26August 2011@7:26pm] “invited’ nonwhites as well as Whites to join in the preservation of and perhaps the enhancement of European–especially Anglo Saxon and American civilization. It would even include Jazz, Blues, “Soul food”,Basketball, and Rhythm and Blues–with my blessings!

It would NOT incude: arson, crime, rape, crime, mayhem, crime, driveby shootings, crime, vandalism, crime, armed robbery, crime, looting, crime, and so on…

And don’t get him started on those goldarned kids who need to stop listening to that there “rap” music, pull up their pants, and get the heck off his lawn.

Seriously, it’s like Grandpa Simpson read Mein Kampf.

Nobinayamu
Nobinayamu
13 years ago

“Don’t burn them. Treat yourself to some more. Embrace your “inner lady”. Show some leadership for a change, especially for your sister females. More–and Prettier–dresses, skirts, and gowns!!”

You do realize that I earned the money to purchase those garments from working at my high powered career with my over-educated, feminist brain, right? Your approval disgusts me but if it is the price to pay for being exceptionally well dressed then I’ll just have take the “L”. You can’t win all the time.

If you’re interested in adorning your Real Doll, may I suggest that you take its measurements and scour the Vintage section on ebay. Bid carefully; authentic vintage is pricey. Still, it’s your best bet as I doubt the vintage and consignment shops would look favorably upon your bringing in your hunk of a silicone and synthetic hair. And the fittings would be a nightmare.

“PS–I know that you don’t really mean it when you call me a “repulsive toad”. It is just those hormones talking, isn’t it? DKM”

Actually, “repulsive toad” was me being generous. Not a mistake I intend to make again. And, yup, you busted me you Wile E. Coyote, you. I’m a fertile woman. I ovulate and everything. You are really obsessed with the menstrual cycles of every poster who happens to be a woman, aren’t you?

Since you’re so interested, I’m about two weeks away but I’d be happy to send you a used tampon or two for a nominal fee. You know, help you add a little verisimilitude to your lonely, little hovel. You could pretend an actual woman willingly set foot over your threshold.

Nobinayamu
Nobinayamu
13 years ago

I even, in at least one Post above, Next to last paragraph, cited by [Voip @ 26August 2011@7:26pm] “invited’ nonwhites as well as Whites to join in the preservation of and perhaps the enhancement of European–especially Anglo Saxon and American civilization. It would even include Jazz, Blues, “Soul food”,Basketball, and Rhythm and Blues–with my blessings

As if we don’t have enough problems with our culture being co-opted and gentrified, Meller wants to have a party where a bunch of storm-fronters try their hands at jazz and making cha-cha. Stick to Lawrence Welk, jello-molds, and ham salad, Meller.

Coltrane and fried okra never did anything to you.

VoiP
VoiP
13 years ago

You know, I used to lurk on websites devoted to RealDolls and similar dolls (RealDolls aren’t the only kind, or even the best-made, just the most famous). Most of the people there were really nice (for instance, I witnessed some of them try to help a young woman whose abusive boyfriend broke her collectible cosplay doll). It’s weird, but hardly Internet Nazis.

Nobinayamu
Nobinayamu
13 years ago

I’m sure there’s room for overlap.

I’m not trying to bash the nice people who have sex dolls. And, if I’m being really fair, I doubt Meller can afford one.

And it is nice to hear about helpfulness within any online community. That sounded snarky, but it was meant sincerely.

I have bouts of insomnia.

VoiP
VoiP
13 years ago

I’m not trying to bash the nice people who have sex dolls. And, if I’m being really fair, I doubt Meller can afford one.

He probably couldn’t. (This link is work safe)

VoiP
VoiP
13 years ago

I have bouts of insomnia.

I wake up at two in the afternoon and go to bed at sunrise, as I am a grad student in the summertime.

VoiP
VoiP
13 years ago

Voip, I have a friend who loves to read and reread the transcripts to the Lipstadt trial, or at least those involving Irving, because he is such a pompous twit, and because he is so regularly and so thoroughly PWND…

Hee! He pwned himself, actually–he sued Lipstadt after all, not vice versa. He found a hole and just couldn’t stop digging, a lot like our mutual friend here.

Anyway, for those of you playing at home, the reason I’m on record above as having worked for Professor Redacted is that he’s actually kind of famous, and I don’t want Internet Nazis finding out where I go to school. Cheers!

Rutee Katreya
13 years ago

I’m sure Johnny B will be along any minute now to tell us that VEXATION AND UGLINESS’ racism and sexism are just peachy keen and why can’t we tolerate dissenters anyway?

David the Lesser: Unlike Nobinayamu, I feel 0 shame at your approval of my dresses, because I look as fantastic in them as I do in my pants, but go fuck yourself just the same. And I’m not on my period, you sexist asshat; I don’t tolerate racism, sexism, heterosexism, classism, cissexism, you name it. And you’ve exhibited the bulk of the -isms cheerfully. You are a waste of the energy your mother and father put into raising you. You are a truly shitty person, who deserves their miserable, lonely existence along with the rest of the Stormfronters, the Spearheaders, and every other little White Nationalist and Christian Nationalist. I just wish I could think of a punishment that suited you better than being yourself, since other people have to listen to you. You’ll remain powerless, lonely, and ignorant; Can’t say I draw any pleasure from that consolation prize of you speaking, but it’s good to know just the same.

David Futrelle: I’m amazed at your resilience, I think, for trolls. NWOSlave is probably sick or something, so that seems easy enough to handle, but the rest, so happily tolerated? Amazing.

Amnesia
Amnesia
13 years ago

DKM, skirts and dresses are great. You should try them sometime.
It really saddens me that due to our society’s limiting gender roles, many men will never know the joy of wearing a flowing skirt.

Pecunium
13 years ago

Amnesia: The interesting thing is how many cultures have men wearing skirtlike garments. I like them, actually. They allow for a greater freedom of movement.