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For the love of God, ladies, take off those pants!

It's sinful when dogs wear them, too.

We’re taking a brief trip outside the manosphere today to take a look at a little posting I found on Jesus-is-savior.com – which, as far as I can tell, is not a joke site — on the evils of women wearing pants.

No need to dilly dally around with jokes; let’s just get right into it:

One of the most controversial subjects in America’s churches today is pants on women; but there is NO controversy if you believe the Bible.  1st Timothy 2:9 clearly instructs women to dress MODESTLY, i.e., of good behavior.  A woman’s clothing says MUCH about her character.  I guarantee you that women who approve of abortion (i.e., murder) also see no problem with women wearing pants. 

Except, one presumes, while they are getting these abortions.

At this point the author, one David J. Stewart, quotes disapprovingly from a song by rapper Chingy, also on the subject of pants, specifically jeans. I won’t bother to quote all of the lyrics; you can get the gist of Chingy’s thesis from this brief excerpt:

Damn Girl

How’d you get all that in

Dem Jeans

Dem Jeans

Here’s the video, if you wish to double-check this transcription.

Stewart continues:

Only a rebellious woman, who deliberately disobeys the Word of God, would wear pants. …   Pants on women are adulterous in nature, and cause men to lust and sin.  Jesus made this clear in Matthew 5:28, “But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart.”  Women who wear pants deliberately cause men to lust, and commit the sin of adultery.  …

The average person today scoffs at the idea that Rock-n-Roll, Satanism, and immoral sex go hand-in-hand, but they certainly do.  When Rock-n-Roll came to America, so did pants on women become mainstream.  Naturally, feminism, witchcraft, abortion, and homosexuality came as well.  Rock-n-Roll is straight from the pits of Hell.  ALL rock-n-roll women wear pants. 

Ah, but it turns out we haven’t really wandered too far from the manosphere after all – and not just because of the mention of feminism. No, what strikes me about Stewart’s argument – aside from the fact that it is completely batshit – is that it is not really very different than the arguments advanced by the critics of the Slutwalks: that the “immodest” dress of women causes men to “lust and sin.”

One of the most common complaints I’ve seen in the writings of the antifeminist slutwalk critics is that women want to “do what they want to, and dress how they want to, without facing any consequences,” as if women who dress in ways these men find arousing have in fact committed some sort of sin that requires punishment from, if not God himself, then from the rapists of the world.

The slutwalk critics invariably insist they’re simply passing along useful advice to women – don’t dress slutty or you’ll get raped – but the talk of “consequences” (and the choice of that word) shows pretty clearly that the real impetus behind the strangely vehement attacks on the slutwalks is the desire to punish women for dressing, and more importantly, doing “what they want.”

Say what you will about the folks behind Jesus-is-Savior.com, but at least their position on the evils of pants is consistent with their overall fundamentalist ideology. The slutwalk critics don’t really have an excuse.

EDITED TO ADD: And, conveniently enough, here’s some douchebag on Reddit making this exact slut-shaming “argument.” Pro-tip: I don’t think “responsibility” means quite what you think it means, dude.

Ah, Reddit, always reliable.

 

Thanls, ShitRedditSAys, for pointing me to this. And to MFingPterodactyl for the sensible response.

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VoiP
VoiP
13 years ago

The UK and the EU are poisoned with egalitarian antiWhite (and antimale) laws and policies whose virulence dwarfs the similar policies and laws infesting the courts and statute books of the USA, even under Comrade Obama and Kommissar of Equality Eric Holder.

If they are facing the threat of legal action, a prudent step toward “inclusion” and “multiculturalism” (at least as they understand it) might be well taken. It is certainly possible that there are nonwhites–or even individual jews–who are utterly disgusted by the sewer that those egalitarians have made of the West since WWI (the first modern major experience in White autogenocide), and greatly accelerated after WWII. They might well be embarrassed by the asinine educational, media, and political/legal egalitarianism running amok in what were once civilized countries. After all, how many White people would excuse e.g. Ted Kennedy, Earl Warren, Lyndon Johnson, Gunnar Myrdal, the wretched Bush family, or Richard Nixon? In Europe, decent and intelligent nonwhites may be even more disgusted with the antics of renegade White academics, politicians, and bureaurats because the egalitarian cultural and political rot has advanced even further within and around their communities-especially among the young–then among Whites.

It was acceptance of profoundly wrong ideas which got us in our suicidal mess, and it will be only better ideas–whether proposed and implemented by white and/or nonwhite people–which can save us and restore us to our former glory. Possibly a conditional membership can be proposed for nonwhite people–depending on how well they can work to advance BRITISH White culture at its best–and the Nationalist movement can work from there.

I for one, would take a Black like Walter Williams or Thomas Sowell, or an (Indian) Dinesh D’Souza, a (Native American) Indian Russell Means, or even jews like Ludwig von Mises, Paul Gottfried or Murray Rothbard any day of the week over the likes of renegade Whites (at their best) such as a Nancy Pilosi, Harry Reid, Newt Gingrich or John McCain! How about you?

We are at the stage when we should try to preserve (and enhance) specifically white Nationalist organizations and causes, but we are not in the position where we can casually reject others only because of race or nationality,especially when the renegade Whites, with or without Jewish influence, are destroying everything for us and everyone else!

KNOWLEDGE IS POWER!!
David K. Meller

Nobinayamu
Nobinayamu
13 years ago

“PS–I, at this late date, DON’T know all about you, and until your behavior changes (as a group), I am not sure that I even want to! DKM”

David K. Meller

“Even a small percentage of blacks–or anyone else–need to be antisocial to make their company or association exceedingly unpleasant, if not dangerous! All of the rest of you, may be very good people!”

David K. Meller

So, the change in behavior has to affect the group in its entirety. The group that he doesn’t really know, can acknowledge on some level is not a monolith, but is certain deserves to be treated as hive mind rather than individually.

Priceless. I prefer the “I hate Black people and their ugly hair,”-types, personally. Soft bigotry is hard enough to feel out and deal with in daily interactions; I like my real racism up front.

VoiP
VoiP
13 years ago

I love this shit. Also, his email (at least at the time he wrote this, it’s a few years old) is his name and birth year at yahoo dot com. I’m surprised it’s not aol or juno.

Of course “public policy foundations” or so-called think tanks support government policy—who do you think pays them?—What do you think would happen to AEI, or the “Heritage” Foundation and their ilk of so called “conservatives” if their resident toadies and stooges failed to pay proper homage to STUPID and his wretched wars in Iraq and Afghanistan to say nothing of his appalling and socialistic “big government” domestic agendas? The more dimwitted (Stupid Party) wing of the political class would simply terminate their tax-exempt contributions.

Forunately, There are still a few think tanks worthy of the name, Future of Freedom Foundation, International Society for Individual Liberty, The Randolph Bourne Foundation (operator of the truly superb website antiwar.com), Mises.org, the Acton Intitute, The Foundatation for Economic Education, to cite the more explicitly libertarian ones.

Some very interesting non-libertarian critics of Post-Constitutional America include the Rockford Institute, the New Century Foundation, and Our Way of Life.org. As I said, they aren’t libertarian (yet), but they are intensely aware of the pathologies associated with Attention deficit democrazy and are certainly willing to listen to what you would have to say.

At least people aren’t confusing the Bushevik “conservatives” today with libertarians as much as they did during the Nixon or Reagan years! That was an embarassment!

Keep up the good work!!

PEACE AND FREEDOM!!
David K. Meller

Anyone know anything about these intsitutions he’s talking about? If you can guess what “Some very interesting non-libertarian critics of Post-Constitutional America” means, you get a cookie!

VoiP
VoiP
13 years ago

Tasty, tasty survivalism.

His solution is space travel.

Volcanic eruptions, killer tsunamis, massive Hurricanes and Cyclones, so-called “global warming” and “new ice ages”, Asteroid impacts, solar superflares…

Clearly, long term habitability of Earth is questionable, to say the least! God gave us eyes, hands, and most importantly, BRAINS! It is time to use them profitably and productively!

I think that visionaries like Werner von Braun, Arthur C. Clarke, Hermann Oberth, Konstantin Tsiolkovsky and Gerald K. O’Neill et al. had some good ideas.

Explore develop, and inhabit outer space, first on a small scale, then on larger and larger scales until a new Space civilization replaces the doomed Earth–which I think we can say was nothing to brag about anyhow–and even if ONE habitat or planetary settlement came to a bad end, it would say nothing about all of the others!

Get government and corporate dinosaurs altogehter out of the space exploration and colonization business! Dismantle the UN–which should be dissolved for many other good reasons–and develop treaties and laws which ENCOURAGE homesteading and privatization of space resources and technology–by individual entrepreneurs, and those who work with them, NOT collectives like corporations or governments!

Privatize space research, space homesteading, and space habitation as soon and as thoroughly as possible, at start hauling @s* either to a comforatable (or at least reasonably safe) space habitat elsewhere, or finding another planet!

At least then our species–and others dependent upon us–will have a chance!

PEACE AND FREEDOM!
David K. Meller

Werner von Braun??
Don’t think of DKM as hypocritical…we prefer, “Apolitical!”
If hatred goes up, World War 3 must come down…but that’s not my department, says DKM.

VoiP
VoiP
13 years ago

This is rich:

Without TAXATION, governments–and their favored banks and corporations would–and could not have the means to intervene on anywhere like the levels that they did in the past half century! Space exploration, if not beginnings of colonization and habitation, would no doubt be a reality somewhere by now!

It is precisely the tax funding of space exploration, the aerospace “industry”, and their affiliated robotics and telecommunications industry that has accounted for their appalling stagnation over the past half century or longer. Compare the growth of e.g. aviation between 1903 and 1953, railroads between 1950-1900, or even computers between 1950 and 2000–even when polluted by heavy government and political involvement there, especially through the military–and you see how stagnant space development is in comparison!

PEACE AND FREEDOM!!
David K. Meller

VoiP
VoiP
13 years ago

He’s trying his hand at science. Incidentally, despite these “messages from God,” he’s a global warming denialist.

While attention is focused upon the disasters in the USA, it is clearly a planetary problem that is manifesting itself. There are two strongly related possibilities as these disasters, and others that may follow, relate to our species (and those plants and animals dependent upon us). Nature, God, or reality, may be trying to tell us something important…

Firstly, we are obviously being told that Earth and its surface environment is not ideal for permanent habitation. Considerable attention could profitably be paid to space-based manufacturing, space-based residential, commercial, and scientific/medical/exploratory activity over the next several generations, pending the time when a mass-exodus humans–and their property–from a hostile Earth becomes profitable for most people, their households, businesses, and churches.

This will only be possible, however, if the immense amounts, both in money and highly skilled manpower, which are now tragically diverted to–and squandered by–useless, and often horrrendously destructive government/military/ Corporate boondoggles and wars, are restored to productive private investment and private ownership both on Earth and in Space!

The second point, related to the first, is that the violence of those governments, and their client military and Corporate henchmen, inflicts unspeakable suffering upon people in many places around the world, and this agony, over time, will inevitably effect the general environment to the point where even inanimate matter, from Atmosphere to Volcanos and tsunami, from massive brushfires to especially destructive strains of bacteria or viruses, are more likely to emerge, and are more likely to inflict massive damage when they do. I don’t know the particulars of the karmic realities here, but we humans are NOT so separated from nature, to say nothing of the rest of the universe, that we can, sith supreme indifference, have our “leaders” or “spokesmen” inflict such destruction both among us and our environment without consequences, both human and natural. Perhaps we should be looking more at the law of causality, and begin wondering seriously if our wars, hatreds, and ignorant blindness isn’t being reflected against us?

PEACE AND FREEDOM!!
David K. Meller

KathleenB
KathleenB
13 years ago

You seen mostly bitter and angry, emotionally damaged people who spout off at others on the internet because you don’t have the power or the courage to do it in real life.

1) I’m generally a happy person. Or I try to be – Life, the Universe and Everything sometimes conspire to keep me from that, but I regard happiness as a life goal.
2) Not gonna argue the emotionally damaged – I am. I think everyone is, in some way. if you come out of life with no scars, you really haven’t lived, you just marked time.
3) My family would disagree with you on the ‘not in real life’ thing.

VoiP
VoiP
13 years ago

Thanks for making my point for me. Now I KNOW I’m right. The pattern is always the same, whether it’s myself, NWO, DKM or someone else. They come here with certain ideas and views which disagree with the “gang” here, who then respond with insults and ad hominems. It’s never been the so-called “trolls” who engaged in name-calling and abuse first, it’s always been one of you.

I wonder if Johnny_B will still try to defend DKM? “Certain ideas and viewpoints which disagree with the gang here” indeed.

hellkell
hellkell
13 years ago

If he wants to explore space, let’s stuff him in a can and fire him into it.

What a vile, repugnant, sorry excuse for a human being.

Sharculese
13 years ago

is ‘long night of lies’ supposed to be a play on night of the long knives that he fucked up because hes a dumbass

actually, dkm probably thinks the night of the long knives was a good thing

VoiP
VoiP
13 years ago

Hey DKM, what’s your opinion of this movie? KNOWLEDGE is, after all, POWER.

VoiP
VoiP
13 years ago

Uugh, never google “hitlar” unless you want to hate yourself.

What did hitlar do?
i dont really understand why everyone is mad @ him???

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=1005121802210

VoiP
VoiP
13 years ago

DKM IS GOING HIS OWN WAY
INTO SPAAAAAACE

Without TAXATION, governments–and their favored banks and corporations would–and could not have the means to intervene on anywhere like the levels that they did in the past half century! Space exploration, if not beginnings of colonization and habitation, would no doubt be a reality somewhere by now!

Sharculese
13 years ago

nobody tell dkm who pays for space exploration

wait no. everyone tell him.

hellkell
hellkell
13 years ago

Who pays for space exploration? Could it be… taxation?

David K. Meller
David K. Meller
13 years ago

All of the quotes here merely show how civil and thoughtful I am in trying–with varying degrees of success, everywhere but–so far–here, to find common ground with people who hold different ideas, I think that common victims of the NWO have more in common with each other than we have differences, and these points in common will help everybody (worth helping sooner or later).

As far as being a “racist”, wrong again! I condemned the uncivilized behavior of nonwhites when it was visible and prevalent enough to endanjger White people, I did not, and would never condemn people for their race, nationality, or background per se, the way racists do with race! On the contrary, if and when they behave themselves, they are more than welcome as neighbors, employees–or employers, tenants or landlords, students or teachers, etc, NOT because a despotic and extravagant government says so, but because they are being contributors, not destroyers!

I called for White people to work against the NWO and the banking/diplomatic/media criminal oligarchies whose plan is the universal enslavement, if not desturction of all of us. I call for White people to organize in OUR OWN INTERESTS for the same reason that nonwhite people (and Zionist Jews) organize to promote THEIR OWN INTERESTS! Unless you are willing to call nonwhites “racists” for so doing, you can’t call Whites racists for doing the same thing for the same reasons.

So some noisy hack above (I forget who) is getting a Ph.D in Modern European history. All that means is that the media/academic apparat of the NWO (funded by sundry tax-exempt foundations like the Ford Foundation, the Council on Foreign Relations, the Royal Institute for International Affairs, Rockefeller Brothers fund, Bilderbergers et al are paying for, and getting one more tame, brainwashed, bought-and-paid-for shill in some university or media outlet tomorrow to continue to bamboozle the sheeple. It says nothing about David Irving’s qualifications as a historian, and at this late date, given the kind of “graduate education” we have, says nothing about yours! I would take Dr. Irving’s word over yours any day, precisely because he faced PRISON for his research. Have you, comrade candidate Ph.D?

Whenever and wherever I could, I have sought out PEACEFUL solutions to conflict, and have eschewed violence. I have supported the more traditional ways people (of all races and religions) have done things except when these traditions were manifestly harmful (e.g. female genital mutilation) while the wisest, most patient, and most thoughtful tried to find ways to integrate modern ways with tradition. Taliban hostility regarding education for women?—look at its effects on MODERN SOCIETY in the West and you see why I have my questions about it. If I hate feminism–and feminists–maybe I have my reasons, and no, I don’t want a harem of “fucktoys”, domestic slaves or porcelain dolls!–still less do I see this as an enviable human future. But a future described by any posts at this website wouldn’t even be a human future, it would be giant insect like hive where women completely dominated a population of drone (more-or-less-castrated) “males” who would be disposed of as soon as new ones became available! Heck, women would even dominate the Armed Forces and law enforcement activity…Nice going!

You forgot to mention that the alleged “neonazis” of stormfront.org took my criticisms of Hitler more intelligently and patiently than anyone on manboobz.com took my criticism of feminism. A few had some strong disagreements when I called the KKK obsolete for White men’s interests (I thought racial egalitarians like you people would be in seventh heaven about that, although I guess that you can’t please everybody–and really shouldn’t even try. Similarly, they expressed some disappointment that Ron Paul–and his supporters, were not as overtly WN as they were, but hey, we aren’t going to do EVERYTHING for them. Other critics of the way the NWO is taking over the world have to do some of the work themselves…I still think that WNs, libertarians, and paleo-conservatives have more in common–especially with a common enemy–then we ever can have in common with either the Stupid Party or the Dumbercrats!

Note to the forgetful: I only started calling my fellow posters on manboobz.com “communists”, bolsheviks”, or “comrade” after YOU started calling me “racist”! I find namecalling and mudslinging exceedingly disagreeable, but I am not a doormat! If attacked, I will respond, to the extent of the attack. Since you decided to access my other posts elsewhere, none of you see one area where I resorted to argumentum ad hominem–although I certainly expressed my disagreements, when called for, in strong and pungent–though NOT obscene–terms!

Each of the statements which you termed “racist” were only simple and clear statements of fact. Africans, wherever they are, the USA, the UK, France, Canada, or even in the Carribean or the African landmass itself, have consistantly shown a MUCH higher rate of violent crime–both against their fellows, and against nonBlacks–than Whites or Pacific rim Asians–to name two examples. The reasons may be environment, they may be geographic, they may be cultural, they may be–and probably are, to some degree, (horrors!!), even genetic, but the fact remains–over generations of time and the entire WORLD–that there is the hugh increase in the amount, and perhaps the intensity of violent crime! That is no more racist than noting that “water is wet” or 2+2 =4! Does this justify enslaving them, killing them, or even collective punishment against them? OF COURSE NOT! Does it justify people. certainly Whites, but even decent and harmless Black people, from taking appropriate and necessary precautions and engaging in necessay defence? Absolutely!!

Read what I actually write, not what you want to imagine–or hallucinate, I don’t know at this point–that I write. My opinions are challenging enough, interesting enough, and sometimes “over-the-top enough to be open to strong disagreement without making me out to be a monster, I never called anyone a “communist” when I first posted here. I deliberately started name calling when many of you people did it, for no real reason. Even if I was a “racist”, my observations were just as sound–or unsound–and I could live without the slurs! I respond with ad hominems, if at all, only when provoked. My natural position is that the politicians and lamestream media people (where there are too many feminists anyhow) whom I hate are MUCH BETTER than I am at it and I would like to keep it that way. I also believe that people who engage in name calling–like polticians and media clowns–do so because they are too ignorant and dull to actually debate the issues at stake!

Getting back to the original topic–I still think that women look more attractive in dresses and skirts (oreferably below the knee), wearing ruffles, ribbons, or flowers, walking and dressing in ways that emphasize their feminity and the qualities it embraces, than they could look in slacks! I prefer makeup to be applied modestly, if at all, to emphasise the more attractive features of the female face (and perhaps hands), and a certain degree of modesty is becoming in ladies of all shapes, sizes and ages!. Nothing will convince me that feminism, or even the cult of the modern woman, can lead to any improvements here.

You women (even feminists and modern women) don’t like us men dressed–and behaving–like louts and bums, do you? Men have the same objections, with even greater reason, in OUR objections to women “wearing the pants”; much less your horrid “slutwalks”. But that is a matter for another post.

wishing everyone…

PEACE AND FREEDOM!!
David K. Meller

Sharculese
13 years ago

hey dkm im a jew. do you think putting me in a camp in reckless antisemitism or acceptable antisemitism. this is relevant to how hard i am going to laugh at your clownish white supremacism.

hellkell
hellkell
13 years ago

You forgot the Rothschilds in your list of Illuminati. Other than that, fuck off.

Nobinayamu
Nobinayamu
13 years ago

“Getting back to the original topic–I still think that women look more attractive in dresses and skirts (oreferably below the knee), wearing ruffles, ribbons, or flowers, walking and dressing in ways that emphasize their feminity and the qualities it embraces, than they could look in slacks!”

Then dress your Real Doll that way and leave the rest of us out of it.

Now, if you’ll excuse me, I have to go make a bonfire out of my collection of vintage 40s and 50s dresses.

katz
13 years ago

DKM wants to go to space!

Spearhafoc
13 years ago

Now, if you’ll excuse me, I have to go make a bonfire out of my collection of vintage 40s and 50s dresses.

Okay, a joke’s a joke, but some things – and this is one of them, mind – are too horrible to be funny about. I get teary-eyed just thinking about the idea.

*Shudder*

Bee
Bee
13 years ago

Wow, you really are thoughtful and civil in conversations with racists, David K Meller. It’s so tender how you point out to them that their deep racism is a tad distasteful to someone of your moderately racist sensibilities. Very beautiful.

I mean, I kind of feel like criticizing the idea that women have the autonomy to wear pants if they’d like and criticizing the KKK and Hitler for maybe being a little bit over the top are so different as to not be comparable in any way, but what do I know? I’m an affront to god. (Because of pants.)

Pecunium
13 years ago

Meller: Care to define “behave themselves”, as you mean it in “, if and when they behave themselves.”

Captain Bathrobe
Captain Bathrobe
13 years ago

My, well, he certainly has, um, interesting ideas about what constitutes peace and freedom. It sounds a lot like war and oppression against people he doesn’t like.