We’re taking a brief trip outside the manosphere today to take a look at a little posting I found on Jesus-is-savior.com – which, as far as I can tell, is not a joke site — on the evils of women wearing pants.
No need to dilly dally around with jokes; let’s just get right into it:
One of the most controversial subjects in America’s churches today is pants on women; but there is NO controversy if you believe the Bible. 1st Timothy 2:9 clearly instructs women to dress MODESTLY, i.e., of good behavior. A woman’s clothing says MUCH about her character. I guarantee you that women who approve of abortion (i.e., murder) also see no problem with women wearing pants.
Except, one presumes, while they are getting these abortions.
At this point the author, one David J. Stewart, quotes disapprovingly from a song by rapper Chingy, also on the subject of pants, specifically jeans. I won’t bother to quote all of the lyrics; you can get the gist of Chingy’s thesis from this brief excerpt:
Damn Girl
How’d you get all that in
Dem Jeans
Dem Jeans
Here’s the video, if you wish to double-check this transcription.
Stewart continues:
Only a rebellious woman, who deliberately disobeys the Word of God, would wear pants. … Pants on women are adulterous in nature, and cause men to lust and sin. Jesus made this clear in Matthew 5:28, “But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart.” Women who wear pants deliberately cause men to lust, and commit the sin of adultery. …
The average person today scoffs at the idea that Rock-n-Roll, Satanism, and immoral sex go hand-in-hand, but they certainly do. When Rock-n-Roll came to America, so did pants on women become mainstream. Naturally, feminism, witchcraft, abortion, and homosexuality came as well. Rock-n-Roll is straight from the pits of Hell. ALL rock-n-roll women wear pants.
Ah, but it turns out we haven’t really wandered too far from the manosphere after all – and not just because of the mention of feminism. No, what strikes me about Stewart’s argument – aside from the fact that it is completely batshit – is that it is not really very different than the arguments advanced by the critics of the Slutwalks: that the “immodest” dress of women causes men to “lust and sin.”
One of the most common complaints I’ve seen in the writings of the antifeminist slutwalk critics is that women want to “do what they want to, and dress how they want to, without facing any consequences,” as if women who dress in ways these men find arousing have in fact committed some sort of sin that requires punishment from, if not God himself, then from the rapists of the world.
The slutwalk critics invariably insist they’re simply passing along useful advice to women – don’t dress slutty or you’ll get raped – but the talk of “consequences” (and the choice of that word) shows pretty clearly that the real impetus behind the strangely vehement attacks on the slutwalks is the desire to punish women for dressing, and more importantly, doing “what they want.”
Say what you will about the folks behind Jesus-is-Savior.com, but at least their position on the evils of pants is consistent with their overall fundamentalist ideology. The slutwalk critics don’t really have an excuse.
EDITED TO ADD: And, conveniently enough, here’s some douchebag on Reddit making this exact slut-shaming “argument.” Pro-tip: I don’t think “responsibility” means quite what you think it means, dude.
Thanls, ShitRedditSAys, for pointing me to this. And to MFingPterodactyl for the sensible response.
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I don’t have to FORCE anyone to accept my point of view regarding modern women, much less feminists. Time and experience with these she-ghouls will do that for me! Every one of the feminists, or modern women, will reveal itself for the man-hating, quarrelsome, pushy, opinionated shrews that they are, and every one of the men–here and everywhere else–will experience the effects of it, if not from you, than from women in their lives elsewhere who are just like you! Sooner or later, you, and other men here will see and experience the effects, and you’ll reclaim your male heritage and values, and give these horrid harpies the gate!
The sheer awfulness of feminists and feminism is my greatest ally in this, whether I made a mistake in placing Vladivostok on a map or not! Indeed most men will probably see the wisdom of my posts even if I placed Vladivostok not in Russia at all, but somewhere in i.e. Mexico or Nigeria! The constant efforts on the part of modern women here to assert their petty egos over some man or other will see to that!
Youall can’t help it! You women have dominance issues that would choke an elephant!
Every issue is a power issue for you and your man-hating kind, whether it is wearing pants (UGH!!) or wearing nice, appealing, feminine, and charming ladies’ clothing, whether it is a womanly career like being a secretary, librarian, schoolteacher, daycare provider, or nurse, or being an acountant, lawyer, or even (this is for you Pecunium:a soldier!) in short, being an ersatz substitute MAN. Everything is a fight for you, from whether to accept traditional religion (heaven forbid that it be too “patriarchal”, that is, show that there are honored places for men, as men, in the family, in the larger society, and in the cosmic order of the universe.
I offered a vision above of men wearing slacks and women wearing skirts, dresses, etc. for purposes of enhancing peace and harmony between the sexes…Even when you KNOW that you would look far prettier and more alluring in very traditional women’s clothing than in modern imitation men’s, you still feel that you lose points when you pick the feminine–NOT feminist–alternative!
I don’t know what the final result will be, but I wouldn’t be surprised if men, by the millions simply found–or even invented–something better, and tossed all of you in the garbage pail! i hope that that doesn’t happen, but hey, a word to the wise is sufficient!
I don’t hate WOMEN! But no man could avoid hating creatures as bellicose, as conflict spreading, and as just plain HOSTILE as you feminists. If it didn’t make one feel sorry for Nazis, I would be tempted to call most of you “feminazis” like that rightwing radio squawkmeister Rush Limbough used to do. I don’t often agree with Limburger mouth, but even a broken clock gives good time twice in a 24 hour period!
PEACE AND FREEDOM!!
David K. Meller
PS- Nothing is wrong with the way I write! I suppose that I could parse my sentences a bit better, but as long as It is readable English and I am understood,, I don’t really care. I am not writing for Oxford professors anyhow…DKM
Fijian policemen’s uniforms. I’ll be in my bunk …
DKM, whatever. Contrary to your belief, no one here hates men. We just don’t like YOU. I know nuance is beyond you, but try to figure it out.
P.S.–I wear dresses pretty regularly and I’m still a feminist. Is your tiny mind blown yet?
dkm since you havent clued in yet im gonna break it down for you: in the process of bragging about how much you knew about russia you messed up a basic fact about the country. this is emblematic of the general impression you give of the state of your knowledge on most topics: shallow, convoluted, and significant only in your own mind. im going to keep reminding you of it to hammer home one point- everytime you think youre being smart, you manage to say something jawdroppingly dumb.
Nothing is wrong with the way I write! I suppose that I could parse my sentences a bit better, but as long as It is readable English and I am understood,, I don’t really care. I am not writing for Oxford professors anyhow…DKM
your diction is stiff and stilted, you cant resist using a big word even if a smaller one would have been more accurate, and your sentences are over-ambitious. the problem is you sound like you are trying to write highbrow prose, but its so forced you come of like a high school zine.
Everything is a fight for you, from whether to accept traditional religion (heaven forbid that it be too “patriarchal”, that is, show that there are honored places for men, as men, in the family, in the larger society, and in the cosmic order of the universe.
Look, dude. I’m Eastern Orthodox. That’s about as “traditional” as Christianity gets And I’m a feminist, because “love everybody and treat them with some goddamn dignity as humans” is number one on Jesus’ list of things you have to do to not be a giant fucking tool.
Everyone has an honored place in the cosmic order, and your attempts to turn an entire half of the human race into cute little fucktoys who have to simper and fawn upon you because otherwise they will literally be killed is obscene. You don’t want to honor men, if you did you would exhort them to stand up beside their fellow human beings as equals. You want to use images of God as worse than animals, because if you kill an animal for food you aren’t rejoicing in its humiliation.
And another thing. A lot of the people who died in the gulags of the Soviet Union were put there for practicing this very religion. I don’t appreciate you co-opting their suffering and their faithfulness to what they believed–to what I believe–so you can say LOLOLOL FEMINISTS R JUST LIEK COMMIES. They died for their belief in God. You sit on the internet and post about how fantastic it would be if men rose up and threw people like your mother into the garbage.
You can take my traditional religion and shove it.
Also, I hear everything you write in the voice of Dr. Strange from Venture Brothers, which is probably not the effect you were going for. So yeah, what Sharculese said.
I hear everything he writes in the voice of Will Ferrell doing James Lipton.
Psssst – I’m wearing a dress.
“Feminine OR Feminist” is a false dichotomy.
Also, DKM? “I hate feminist women” is still hatred of women.
“ersatz substitute MAN”? Seriously? Would you like to cite that?
PEACE AND FREEDOM AND EXCLAMATION POINTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The Laplace Demon
PS: Feel free to go your own way any time now. – TLD
lol. i missed the ” everything is a fight for you” bit.
dkm, you frame pretty much everything in terms of some cosmic existential battle. do you not get the irony here?
Everything is a fight for you, from whether to accept traditional religion (heaven forbid that it be too “patriarchal”, that is, show that there are honored places for men, as men, in the family, in the larger society, and in the cosmic order of the universe.
from whether to accept traditional religion to what? Voting rights, parking tickets, GRAIN PRICES? Agh, this is more annoying than it should be.
PS: Feel free to go your own way any time now. – TLD
He’s not an MGHOW, in that he really wants to hang with hot robot bitches.
Well, that’s not what I intended to do. On the other hand, when I was looking for the gif I should have posted to begin with, this happened.
@David K. Meller
Feminists religeous ferver to their failed communist ideology makes any zealot appear tame by comparison. I’m not really sure what the Vladivostok comment is about but keep in mind you’re dealing with wikipedia geniuses here, they can extrapolate nothing and they literally think cut and paste is original thought. They’ll discount any differing opinion that runs counter to their faith, and woe to any who mis-spell or misplace a comma. That’s grounds for immediate dismisal of any opinion.
They believe men and women are interchangable, have the exact same abilities, and think emotionally and logically indentical. They are so far removed from any independent thought they actually believe the State “cares” for them; they simply can’t see the State uses women as a cash cow to gain money and power over men. They use the violence of the State to harm men and wash their hands of the blood while screaming men are violent. In their blind ignorance they’ll hand over every concievable right to the State and when it all collapses they’ll scream at men for allowing it to happen. They’ve been indoctrinated so thoroughly they can’t even imagine women being blamed for anything.
Peace and freedom!
Ooo, the bircher is coming to help him.
*Gets popcorn*
Aaand after a few days of not reading, NWOslave’s ranting comes across as more delusional than ever. I can’t even parse that last comment because there’s nothing solid in there at all to pin the rest of the gibberish to.
@DKM, my girlfriend says I look beautiful in pants. And very “alluring” too. So what’s up with that?
Wow, we sure have huge, sturdy thick dominance issues. Just really intimidating, giant dominance issues that even an elephant’s throat couldn’t handle. Most men certainly don’t have dominance issues that big.
…Tell us again who has issues, please, if you have at least one hand free to type with?
Sure, short skirts and dainty shoes can be quite cute, but when your work’s dress code requires long pants and closed-toed shoes what can a female scientist do? (I mean, everyone knows that a sexy intelligent woman wearing a lab coat — and maybe glasses? — is the ugliest thing ever, amiright? *snaps latex glove*)
Here’s just a small glimpse of the indoctrinated woman.
http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/cristinaodone/100100154/london-riots-absent-fathers-have-a-lot-to-answer-for/
This is a link to an article about the recent riots in the UK. The headline… “Absent fathers have a lot to answer for”
Men have been forbidden from their families, (children) for decades. Treated as nothing but walking ATMs, yet when the children, raised only by their mothers become unruly, the fathers who were forbidden contact are to blame. Just one small example of women finding it incomprehensible to place the blame on themselves.
NWO, STFU. THIS IS A CONTRACT.
I’m not really sure what the Vladivostok comment is about but keep in mind you’re dealing with wikipedia geniuses here, they can extrapolate nothing and they literally think cut and paste is original thought.
pecunium told dkm what he didnt know about russia would fill lake baikal. dkms lame comeback was that what he did know about russia would fill lake baikal and overflow into irkutsk and vladivostok. it would have been a lame comeback under any circumstances, but doubly so because vladivostok is a pacific seaport and nowhere near lake baikal.
i didnt need wikipedia to figure that out. i knew it because as someone who actually does know what the fuck about russia, i know basic russian geography.
seriously, owlslave, it was dumb dumb comment and trying to defend it just sounds desparate.
also please go back into china thread and explain what you think a corporation is. i need the laugh.
Thank you NWO, for your thoughtful and intelligent remarks. After seeing some of the things manboobzers have said about some of your posts, I appreciate the courage it took to come forward to show that there is at least ONE reader who understands what I am trying to say.
Maybe that is why they hate you even more, if possible, than they hate me! You may uunderstand them better.
We both are immune to the feminist ideology, we are immune to unisex, and we are immune to what I call GEP–Gender equality psychosis! They–both feminists, and “men(?)–so far, aren’t!
Keep up the good work!
Back to Spearhead, along with other, REAL websites and blogs,, and real people once again!
PEACE AND FREEDOM!!
David K. Meller
“your comment is awaiting moderation”
Moderate away! There is no obscenity anywhere in my comment, there were no threats to anyone’s person or property, no libel or defamation to anybody (!!!), and no personal attacks on either this website or its posters!
I was simply engaging in the ordinary courtesy of thanking a fellow poster here for his kind words.
Have fun!
PEACE AND FREEDOM!!
David K. Meller.
shorter dkm: im done getting my pwecious feewings twampled, gonna go back to the pwaces whewe my woopy wogowwhea it coddle