Those of you who aren’t regular readers of the comments here may not appreciate the true genius of David K. Meller, an excitable and exclamation-point-loving MRA I’ve mentioned once or twice in my posts, but who shows up in the comments here with some regularity – ending each comment with his trademark “PEACE AND FREEDOM!!”
Mr. Meller is a great lover (not physically) of men:
Men, by and large, are a wonderful sex! We are more intelligent than women, more creative, at least in the areas outside the home. We are, also, as a rule, physically stronger as well …
He claims to love women, too – though not feminists, whom he seems to consider something other than human:
Women ARE people, and often wonderful people at that! Feminists, on the other hand, AREN’T! …
Women are people, and properly raised, educated, and loved,, are beautiful, charming, and lovely!
Despite his alleged love of women – at least the non-feminist ones – he often says utterly horrible things about them. The examples are too numerous to catalogue. But let me draw your attention to one rather telling comment of his I found recently on The Spearhead.
In the midst of a discussion of Sharon Osbourne’s now notorious comments about a woman who cut off her husband’s penis, Meller offered the following musings on the subject of women and cancer. I am having trouble finding much love of women in them:
It is .. possible that the breast cancers (not to mention ovarian and vaginal cancers) have a psychosomatic aspect to their development. … The feelings of vicious sadism, brutality, and callous indifference to another’s pain in such harpies must inexorably work on the molecular, genetic, and cellular level to generate consequences! I hope that you girls find these consequences as hilarious as I do when you annoy me with your next women’s health campaign against cancer!
Maybe women don’t strictly speaking, DESERVE cancer, but it will be hard for me to stop laughing at them …
Isn’t the thought of cancer-ridden women going under the knife amusing? Isn’t thought of women losing part, or all, of a sexual organ that is precious to them FUNNY? The pain women experience when recovering from surgery (and radiation or chemo, which is almost as bad) is still less than the agony which that poor man underwent when he underwent castration at the hands of a deranged, sadistic, and vicious she-weasel (my apologies to weasels)!
[F]or every man who is abused and tortured by his woman, it almost warms my heart that the same hatred and spite characteristic of the female human(?) sets THEM up for a similar fate down the road, as that bitterness, vicious sadism, and bloodthirstiness so characteristic of those who would LAUGH AT the suffering caused by a “woman” committing such a vicious crime predisposes them toward cancer, and (I hope) a similar fate!
Karma is always there, girls, and it is a bitch!! HA HA HA HA HA…LOL!
PEACE AND FREEDOM!!
David K. Meller
That “PEACE AND FREEDOM!!!” always gets me.
This being The Spearhead, Meller’s comments garnered more than a few upvotes. Not as many as he usually gets, admittedly, but some.
At some point I will do a Best of David K. Meller post, highlighting some of his “best” comments here. He is one for the ages.
If a dude eats a baby, will he get breast cancer too?
I ask because a friend of mine…
I honestly think David K. Meller is just a very dedicated sockpuppet/concern troll. I mean, the peace and freedom thing? Come on…
Well mral none of us believes a word you say.
Also I bet DKM will come in here saying “IT ISNT SEXIST IF ITS JUST TRUE!!!!!”
I used to imagine David K. Meller as looking like a 60-something old man, but from now on I’ll imagine him looking just like the maniacal smiley above.
Tabby, I did read the comments and as of now, they have not mentioned the women involved in the case who showed outrage at the crime. It’s easier for the MRA’s to deny any evidence that contradicts their worldview, even when it’s looking them right in the face.
It used to be a pretty common idea (up until the mid-20th century, AFAIK) that cancer had psychosomatic origins (and judging by this comment it’s not entirely dead). Clinging to long-discredited ideas seems to be an MRM trademark. 😀
I’m imagining David as one of the people from this:
I cannot defend Meller’s words.
His post was in response to an episode of “The Talk” where the panellists made fun of the man who Catherine Becker assaulted. Becker poisoned and bound her husband, waited until he regained consciousness so that he would feel the pain, cut out his genitals, and then destroyed the genitalia in the garbage disposal. The panellists on “The Talk” glorified the event, worshipped the victimizer, laughed at the victim, and generally behaved like the inhuman monsters that they are.
My guess is, Meller was mad. Really mad. So, he went too far. “You think our pain is funny? Maybe we think YOUR pain is funny also!”
You see, Meller was watching an audience of hundreds of women, NOT ONE OF WHICH had the humanity or compassion to empathise with the pain of the assaulted man.
The problem is that Meller did not understand that this audience is selective. People who sign up to watch “The Talk” are not drawn randomly from society. They are the worst of the worse, the women who breath eat and drink hatred of men. It is not surprising to me that this audience of man-haters would find the mutilation of a man to be funny, neither is it an indictment of all women.
However, the genital mutilation was generally greeted with mixed mirth and condemnation by media across the nation, most of whom snuck in “ba da boom” remarks:
Mr. Becker is calling the attack, in which Catherine employed a 10-inch kitchen knife (lord have mercy) a “private matter” from the hospital.
— LA weekly, Jul 13
The Orange County Register told the Los Angeles Times: ‘This is a private matter.’
— Mail online, Aug 16
What do you think: Should the verb “Bobbitise” be changed to “Beckerise,” given Catherine’s one-uppance of the woman who started it all?
— LA weekly, Jul 13
Nothing like this would happen if a man had carved out his wife’s privates with a 10 inch knife while she was bound to the bed and helpless, awake and in agony during the entire “surgery”. Man hate is certainly stronger at “The Talk” than in the mainstream media, but it is alive and well everywhere. It is a question of intensity.
Nevertheless, there is no reason to celebrate the pain of women, even as society hoots and cheers the agony of men.
Was Meller wrong to lash out at women with cancer, in response to the disturbing scene at “The Talk”? Yes.
It is pretty understandable though. Given that he had just witnessed an audience full of women laughing and hooting at the agony of a helpless man, being victimized by a crazed wife with a butcher knife.
I think it is amusing that at this point, most of the regulars here (Manboobz Irregulars?) could pretty effortlessly sockpuppet any of the typical trolls that repeatedly stop in.
I don’t see our society “hooting and cheering” the agony of men suffering from cancer.
Did you know that many of the feminists on this very site actively participated in protests and petitions of the comments on “The Talk”, specifically calling out the misandry of the hosts in question and held the studio directly responsible? In fact, NSWATM was referenced in an article on the Washington Post.
Nearly every poster here expressed condemnation and outrage over what happened on the show. You know what’s ironic? NWO said that, as feminists, there was no amount of outrage we could express, boycotts/petitions/protests we could form or participate in, and no amount of disagreement we could firmly state that would change anything. He said that protesting, and boycotting, and working for change were pointless because misandry is so dominant in the culture that we are complicit even when we work to address it.
So, yeah, David K. Meller was upset by what happened on “The Talk.” But apparently his comments are mitigated by misandry in the media. I’ll remember that the next time I’m working with a homeless shelter that specializes in male veterans with addiction issues. Or working to help urban Boyscouting groups retain their charters.
Or visiting my friend in the hospital while she has chemo.
So I’ll utilize a RED HERRING!!!!!
Look at me! I proved ALL WOMEN ARE EVIL by pointing to a single incident that’s been repudiated multiple times here!
Gimme a cookie!
“Was Meller wrong to lash out at women with cancer, in response to the disturbing scene at “The Talk”? Yes.
It is pretty understandable though.”
So, in other words, you support what he said and agree with it. Thanks for letting the truth slip about amid your pathological lies.
“Given that he had just witnessed an audience full of women laughing and hooting at the agony of a helpless man, being victimized by a crazed wife with a butcher knife.”
And therefore, its totally cool to laugh at the pain of women WHO HAD ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DO WITH THAT?
Get help. Before you hurt someone.
So, Anthony Zarat, you cannot defend Meller’s words…but then you spend 9 paragraphs defending and excusing him? That is like when someone says, “No offense, but” and then proceeds to say something entirely offensive. Why don’t you just say what you mean and not try to sugar coat it?
Also, what is with the assumption that he had “just witnessed an audience full of women laughint and hotting at the agony of a helpless man”? Do you know that Meller watched the show? Do you know when he watched it? Was he really watching it right before writing his rant?
But men, being the paragon of humanity, never, ever get cancer. Men who went to jail for their principles and drank from the colored fountains in 1950’s Georgia just to piss people off never, ever get sick. Executive vice presidents of chemical companies with patents under their names are immune to cancer. Riiiiiight.
Then I guess my family all had a collective hallucination when my dad was diagnosed with small cell lung cancer. According to this douchenozzle, he’s probably in hiding from his wife and two daughters (we all know what shrews we of the female persuasion are!).
MRAL, you’d know all about sockpuppetry, wouldn’t you?
Yeah, that’s why I’d know, thanks for the support!
“You see, Meller was watching an audience of hundreds of women, NOT ONE OF WHICH had the humanity or compassion to empathise with the pain of the assaulted man.
The problem is that Meller did not understand that this audience is selective. People who sign up to watch “The Talk” are not drawn randomly from society. They are the worst of the worse, the women who breath eat and drink hatred of men. It is not surprising to me that this audience of man-haters would find the mutilation of a man to be funny, neither is it an indictment of all women.”
*sigh* I think I’m gonna make a lot of people angry with me with this one.
You hear about hundreds of dead soldiers, blown up by road-side bombs. You hear about genocides, rapes, murders, etc. Does it affect you? Not really. If pressed, you’ll certainly agree it’s a tragic event, but you aren’t going to be bursting into tears over so many lives lost (unless you have some personal connection to one of the dead).
The panelists on “The Talk” may be foolish, they may be insensitive, but they are hardly monsters. Neither is the audience. They heard about the story from miles and miles away, far removed from any actual pain and suffering, distilled down to “Heh, check this. This woman actually castrated the guy, isn’t that hilarious?” Well yeah, in a way it is; as long as you don’t think about it too hard. These woman probably joke a lot about castrating their husbands.
Put the knife in their hands, though, and they’d shut up real fast. Show them photos, have them talk to the guy involved, and they’d probably lose their lunch. You know, like any normal person would. Fact is we humans can distance ourselves from tragedy, and you don’t have to hate humanity to laugh at it. These women don’t “breath eat and drink hatred of men.” They don’t find “mutilation of a man” to be funny either, at least when presented with its consequences. From a safe distance, and in the right framing, yeah, it’s funny.
Oh Kathleen, so sorry to hear that. 🙁 *hugs*
Nobinayamu: “In fact, NSWATM was referenced in an article on the Washington Post.”
I didn’t know that. Pretty freakin’ cool.
I cannot insult Anthony Zarat.
But his head is up his ass.
Quick addendum to note that DKM is essentially laughing at cancer, a terrible and heart-breaking disease for anyone who has to go through it. Years of throwing up, fear of complications, and the ever-present threat of resurgence. Is he a monster, a vile human being not worth the air he wastes? Probably not. It’s the same distancing effect that allows him to laugh at the idea of women being “paid back” for something, without thinking much about what that would actually mean.
kirby, you’re exactly right about the response.
Kirby, you know what you said makes me think of this old ethical dilemma problem that I heard about somewhere-there is a train track with five people on it. A train is coming and the first scenario has you pushing someone into the way of the train to save the five people.
The second scenario has you just flipping a switch to cause the pushing of the someone to save the five people.
Most humans can manage the second one…not the first. It is a matter of immediacy to harm. In both situations someone will die and possibly more then just one person. But most humans cannot bring themselves to harm another person. That is why generally it takes some kind of great emotion to do it. Well unless you are a sociopath or psychopath.
Elizabeth:
The second is even easier if you imagine one track with 5 people, one track with one person, and a switch to change the way the train goes. It’s boggling try to justify why this is so. I wonder if its because being on the track sort of implies a “you put yourself in that position” type of thing.
Nobody wants to live in a world where they could walk into a hospital, be killed, and have their organs removed to save 5 people’s lives. Nor walk across a bridge where you, at any time, could be pushed over to stop a runaway train from killing 5 workers. But being on a train track is different somehow.