The other day we took a look at a Redditor who calls himself AntiFeministMedia. He does not seem to like the ladies very much. Indeed, in some of the posts of his I quoted, he went so far as to say that women are animals, not humans, and suggested that men should pretty much have the final say in anything involving reproduction (as clearly the women have been doing a terrible job of it).
So one might wonder: why have ladies at all? This is a thought that has crossed the mind of AntiFeministMedia more than a few times. And he’s got some ideas about how it could be done.
As he points out in this comment, men have known all along that ladies is trouble. But now, thanks to superior male brains, we finally have the technology to do something about it. Today, fleshlights! Tomorrow, the womb!
Men have known women are the problem right throughout history, and to deny it just goes to show how ignorant and stupid you are.
Religion’s, culture’s, all have there warnings about women.
And all these things will be known again. The dots will be joined, and its my hope that after this current fuck up of allowing feminism to take root, men will never allow it again.
I actually think its time men went foreward alone. We have the hi-technology now to clone little boys into the future, soon we will have female androids with artificial wombs. Identical to women in almost every way, except for the animal nature…
Women should be replaced by better technology.
Consider the many fine benefits of this plan:
If men didnt have to live in this human-female environment, but instead was guaranteed in having his sexual needs met, and his genes live on into the future, there would be a lot less conflict of all kinds.
This two-party system of male and female has served its purpose (in the most brutal way), we are rapidly approaching a time where things could be radically different.
Tell me more about this brave new world of which you speak, in which men can live their lives free of bitches:
Cloning science and female androids may just solve that woman problem for us.
I wouldnt advocate killing women, certainly not, but a gradual fade-out, allow women to live out their natural lives, while we transition to the new technology.
No need for anything as unpleasant as killing, no. Just the elimination of one gender by the other through a little “fade-out,” like they have in the movies. Nothing objectionable about this, not at all.
If you’ve followed any of these links back to the original comments, you’ll see that AntiFeministMedia, like most truly original thinkers, has gotten some resistance to his ideas — even from the normally forward-looking thinkers of the Men’s Rights subreddit. And a few downvotes!
But some of his comments are so clearly and obviously correct, so pithy and wise, that they get upvotes. Like this one, suggesting that female demand for iPads and mobile phones is one of the central driving forces behind war:
Well its nice to hear her comment that western women themselves have been complicit in foreign wars and the rape of native women by soldiers, so that companies can obtain gold and other precious metals for Ipads and moble phones which women seem to like so much.
Oh you evil women with your iPads and mobile phones! We men are of course immune to the devilish allure of computer technology. Indeed, I’m typing this blog post on an old Smith-Corona Galaxie Portable Typewriter.
NWO: Men can deny sex after marriage too. In both cases it often leads to divorce. In most states divorce is neutral, barring something egregious (which has to have supporting documentation) the law is the law.
Men do have rights to children, and (as we keep telling you) if men contest custody they get it, about half the time. The rest of the time the parents either work out what they feel to be an equitable arrangement (and have no need for a court order) or joint custody, with mandated minimums of visitation are enacted.
Feminism doesn’t state what women like. Women do. Many (probably most, even the vast majority) want sex, and engage in it willingly.
And you might see the right-wing reactionary rag of the Washington Times as gospel, we don’t.
@Pecunium
“No one named, no one charged. Evidence lost. The victim pregnant.
And she’s the one in jail.
Yeppers, those women get their own way; all they have to do is say, “He looked at me funny” and the man is put in jail, his life ruined forever.”
And one case of the millions where men are falsely named means her case is the one exception to the millions that are the norm.
Further she is an “alleged victim.” While you of course have already assumed she was indeed the “victim” of a crime with the evidence of her word alone. Which of course clearly shows you will merrily incarcerate a man on a womans word. Where there’s a victim, (a womans word) there’s a criminal oppressor, (man), guilt is assumed.
Also I love how the story begins, “attacked in the early hours of a cold January morning in 2009” Sheesh, talk about playing to the audiences sympathies.
“THE SUICIDE RATES FOR MEN HAVE GONE UP DRAMATICALLY IN RECENT YEARS”
As far as I can tell, that’s not true:
http://www.suicide.org/suicide-statistics.html#death-rates
It is still a problem that suicide asymmetrically kills men. However I don’t see evidence of a “dramatic increase”. I would not be surprised to find that this current economic climate has caused an uptick, however that would be, rather unsurprisingly, because of the recession. Not feminism or MGTOWs.
“MEN DIE YOUNGER THAN WOMEN”
This is also true, however the gender gap has been closing steadily:
http://news.harvard.edu/gazette/1998/10.01/WhyWomenLiveLon.html
“Although women can expect to live longer than men, the gap is closing. Death rates have begun to converge in the past 20 years.”
“MEN STUFF THEIR FEELING BECAUSE THEY WERE TOLD TO BE MACHO MEN”
And that would be the feminists who are telling men that they should let out their feelings. It would be other men and patriarchy telling men that they need to bottle up their emotions.
“MEN DYING YOUNG CREATES A MAN SHORTAGE”
Again, the rates of death in men are getting better over the years, not worse. Which means we should be seeing, on average, more men around then less.
“Ladies I have heard this complain from you women? Not men? Can you explain this?”
And lots of other places I see men complaining about how women are all bitches and harpies and sluts. Your point?
NWO: “My “Earth-One reality” consists of biology and facts,”
ahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha.
I’d love to hear more about the biology that you know, NWO.
Samuel, who here told you to go to hell? I missed that.
The article you gave didn’t exactly point to a huge overall man shortage.
Yes, Creationists talking about biology is always entertaining.
Sorry, that chart ends in 2003 and thus is not the best indicator. However, in a somewhat deeper search I couldn’t find anything beyond one site saying “A worrying recent trend is the increasing rate of suicide among younger men (a trend not seen among young women). The majority of these men have not asked for help before their deaths. ”
This is a worrying trend, not a “dramatic increase”. And I would like to point out that this is a worrying trend because young men are dying, and frequently not getting the psychiatric help they deserve (because patriarchal culture says men shouldn’t need help, especially not for mental problems), not because of any ‘man shortage’.
@Pecunium
“Men do have rights to children, and (as we keep telling you)”
Why do you insist on lying, by a stat given by one of your own, when men contest custody they get equal custody 17% of the time. Just the fact they have to “contest” a womans words of “mine, mine mine” tells the tale.
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” In most states divorce is neutral”
Does anything truthful every fall from your mouth? Alimony/child support, nothing about divorce is neutral.
Look at Tiger Woods, he committed adultery so she is rewarded with hundreds of millions after attacking him. If she would have she cheated and he attacked her she would have been rewarded with hundreds of millions. No matter what happened or who did what the woman will always be rewarded. Feminist neutrality is the same as feminist equality. Not so much.
Samuel: I have had women tell me that they wish I would go toi hell on this blog and cuss me out .
Who did that?
What is it you are trying to do? You keep asking loaded questions, making assertions about what, “women” believe, conflating feminists with women, alleging preposterous claims (Alan Alda? really?).
You say you are abstinent but your reasons for it seem confused… you do it because women want you to, “not objectify” them, and so you leave it to them to pursue men for sex and they aren’t pursuing you.
If you are plagued with lustful thoughts at the mere presence of women… you aren’t inclined to abstinence. I know both people who are asexual (have no deasire whatsoever for sex), people who are abstinent (choose not to have sex) and people who are celibate (i.e. they have chosen a life in which sex is forbidden to them… as a technical point celibacy is the act of not marrying. Because most celibates have also taken vows of chastity they are also abstinent. Some of those are transitory (e.g. those who take up a period of time as a Buddhist monk, or a long session in a monastery as a lay-brother), and some are permanent.
Only the first of those have no desire for sex. Many struggle with it. Many priests suffer not from the abstinence, but from the lack of marriage/romance as an option. Other priests maintain emotionally intimate relations with women, but abstain from sexual contact.
You… I don’t know what you are about. You keep talking about, “celibacy” as if it were something women were forcing on you, and other men, and they are going to be sorry for it.
I’ve got news. Women are having sex. They are having it with any number of men. The Tom Cruise’s and the Alan Alda’s and the Andrew Dice Clays. It’s not about what you think it’s about. Women are people.
There is a line in film, Phenomenon, where the protagonist explains why he was aale to get past the reserve of a local woman (who had been hurt by her ex). “I bought her chairs”, which he explains means he found out what it was she wanted, and saw that he could, honestly, provide it.
I think you don’t know how to do that, and think there is some magic formula which will make it happen. I think you want us to share it with you, so you can take it back to the MGTOWs and “save” them.
Or something.
But I do think you have some hidden motive.
@Spearhafoc
“Yes, Creationists talking about biology is always entertaining.”
How does your theory go again? Something along the lines of the rock you’re living on created you, but it doesn’t do that primordal stew creation thing anymore. And the rock decided to make a coupla billion different kinds of plants, fish, animals and such because thats what rocks floating about usually do. And in the beggining all the mass of the universe was the size of a fingernail and then it kinda exploded and swirls around because thats what usually happens to stuff. Boy do I have egg on my face. Mmmm, eggs, the rock thought eggs would be yummy so they made them up too. Eyesight, hearing, taste, touch, smell, emotions, thought, imagination, joy, laughter, sorrow, pain and all that other cool stuff the rock made cause its really neato.
A female commented “the minute a man gets married, his standard of living and his life expectancy goes up, in many cases quite drastically. When a woman gets married, both indices go down for her. If she dares to flip the social script and marry a younger man, she is much more likely to die much earlier than she would otherwise. Look it up if you don’t believe me.”
I will respond to you N4 and nobby both are relevant. While the death gap is closing in, I believe it may be 5 yrs now instead of 7 that women live longer-remember men are dying younger. Heart diseas amongst men is a killer and is increasing. Tim Russert a reporter for the NBC died young from heart disease. It is not unusual to hear of a man 35 or 45 dying of a heart attack. actually bachelors could live longer less stress of being the breadwinner which kills many guys young. Marriage and relationships can be stressful that is why more and more people are bailing out on marriage(men obviously are and from some comments on this thread many women are as well).
The Suicide rate in men may have gone down but it is still considered a public health concern according to the surgeon general. More men commit suicide,while more women attempt it. Suicide is increasing amongst all people in this stressful economic climate but especially amongst men. The media has gotten better in relaying the message that Prostrate Cancer is killing men as well, MORE MEN ARE IN PRISONS THAN WOMEN AND MORE MEN ARE GAY.MORE MEN ARE STAYING BACHELORS . Finally observe any retirement community (55+ places) in places like Florida and Arizona and you will see throngs of single women congregating and just a few men. THE STRESS OF BEING A MAN IS CAUSING MEN TO DIE YOUNGER TODAY LEAVING MORE WOMEN SINGLE WHO DESIRE MALE COMPANIONSHIP. Prostrate cancer and heart disease is an MRA issue amongst many mra issues which should affect feminists as well.
Samuel: Plenty of feminists do ask men out! I’d bet my left ass-cheek that if you took a random sampling of women who embrace feminism (and are attracted to men) and women who eschew feminism (and are attracted to men), you’d find that many of the first group and comparitively fewer of the second group are already inclined to approach men. Most people here are feminists, and a good chunk of us are women who already happily proposition men. You’re preaching to the choir here!
Does anyone remember what comment thread it was where some lady commenters were talking about their tendency to hit on men rather than wait for men to approach them? I feel like a whole comment section of evidence might actually get through to this guy.
Oh he really is a creationist, and he thinks mocking abiogenesis is going to disprove it, and that we all worship the earth. That’s hilarious.
Oh, and he thinks the big bang is a matter of biology, not cosmology. Haha, hilarity.
So Samuel, in a perfect world, what you have feminists do about men dying younger?
NWO: And one case of the millions where men are falsely named means her case is the one exception to the millions that are the norm.
Citation please. The millions of cases of men being falsely accused and sent to jail on just the woman’s say so.
You keep spouting this bullshit. You keep pretending that merely asserting your unsupported beliefs makes it true. It doesn’t.
You said millions.
Prove it. Use that manly brain of yours and dig up the stats. It ought to be easy, shouldn’t take more than a couple of minutes of that hotel internet you need to use on the rare downtime you get from your 14 hour days repairing pipes.
Millions.
Sheesh, you could have tried. Stuck with a lie less likely to stand out, said something like, hundreds; which you might have been able to find weak support for; if we look at it out of the corner of our eyes while squinting.
But millions? Get real.
See? That’s what I mean. Hilarious!
I have no idea what this “creator rock” is supposed to descibe, or how it has anything to do with evolution. Maybe NWOslave is talking about Ego the Living Planet from Marvel Comics. Or Mogo from DC.
Mogo’s better. He’s a sentient planet and a Green Lantern.
“A female”
Charming! I think you mean NF4ever though.
NWO: And you believe that God has always existed, without begining.
Of the two, abiogenesis is the more plausible.
And I’m a theist.
@theLaplaceDemon
” ahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha.
I’d love to hear more about the biology that you know, NWO.”
Oh no, cyber-laughter. That’ll put me in my place and prove me wrong. Your ideology is so true, the cyber-laughter told me so.
@Pecunium
“Of the two, abiogenesis is the more plausible.”
Because…………………?
Damn, should’ve refreshed before posting so I could catch this in the same comment:
“MORE MEN ARE IN PRISONS THAN WOMEN AND MORE MEN ARE GAY.MORE MEN ARE STAYING BACHELORS .”
One of these things is not like the others, one of these things just doesn’t belong…
Oh, wait, you’re still panicking over the Man Shortage, aren’t you? I thought you were more concerned with actual issues facing men as a gender.
Sam (is it okay if I call you Sam?), why do you keep going on about the terribleness of there being fewer marriageable men? People here have told you repeatedly and in so many words that they don’t really care, so what are you hoping to accomplish?
“The article you gave didn’t exactly point to a huge overall man shortage.”
Although seriously? What’s with the disturbing lack of huge men in overalls lately? Paul Bunyan, L’il Abner, Big Boy, and then … nothing.
No shit!!
And when feminists DO try to help men, we receive a heaping helping of derision and scorn because we’re seen as trying to castrate men…feminize men…not allow men to be men. Then when patriarchy and toxic masculinity yields negative and undesirable results (eg., “men dying younger from the hazards of being male”), the blame gets placed squarely at the doorstep of feminism anyway.
““The article you gave didn’t exactly point to a huge overall man shortage.”
Although seriously? What’s with the disturbing lack of huge men in overalls lately? Paul Bunyan, L’il Abner, Big Boy, and then … nothing.””
Good point Bee! Also, hilarious.
Feyline, the problem is that they don’t want the feminists to ask them out. They want the gender-conforming women to ask them out, because they want to be in a traditional relationship where they “wear the pants”. They imagine that more overtly femme-y women will be more likely to be pliant and submissive, whether this is true or not. But they can’t have both things at once, so they’re discriminated against, you see…
The dying younger problem has more to do with the prevalence of fast food, obesity, and processed junk food than it does feminism. And there’s already a huge overlap between feminists and people who are critical of the food industry. So short of running and grabbing the hamburger out of mens’ hands before they eat it, I don’t know what feminists are supposed to do besides agitate for change, which they’re already doing.
Also, I have no idea what the hell rocks have to do with abiogenesis, but if you’d like to look up “RNA life world theory” to understand how nucleotides formed spontaneously in the atmosphere of early earth, be my guest, NWO.