The other day we took a look at a Redditor who calls himself AntiFeministMedia. He does not seem to like the ladies very much. Indeed, in some of the posts of his I quoted, he went so far as to say that women are animals, not humans, and suggested that men should pretty much have the final say in anything involving reproduction (as clearly the women have been doing a terrible job of it).
So one might wonder: why have ladies at all? This is a thought that has crossed the mind of AntiFeministMedia more than a few times. And he’s got some ideas about how it could be done.
As he points out in this comment, men have known all along that ladies is trouble. But now, thanks to superior male brains, we finally have the technology to do something about it. Today, fleshlights! Tomorrow, the womb!
Men have known women are the problem right throughout history, and to deny it just goes to show how ignorant and stupid you are.
Religion’s, culture’s, all have there warnings about women.
And all these things will be known again. The dots will be joined, and its my hope that after this current fuck up of allowing feminism to take root, men will never allow it again.
I actually think its time men went foreward alone. We have the hi-technology now to clone little boys into the future, soon we will have female androids with artificial wombs. Identical to women in almost every way, except for the animal nature…
Women should be replaced by better technology.
Consider the many fine benefits of this plan:
If men didnt have to live in this human-female environment, but instead was guaranteed in having his sexual needs met, and his genes live on into the future, there would be a lot less conflict of all kinds.
This two-party system of male and female has served its purpose (in the most brutal way), we are rapidly approaching a time where things could be radically different.
Tell me more about this brave new world of which you speak, in which men can live their lives free of bitches:
Cloning science and female androids may just solve that woman problem for us.
I wouldnt advocate killing women, certainly not, but a gradual fade-out, allow women to live out their natural lives, while we transition to the new technology.
No need for anything as unpleasant as killing, no. Just the elimination of one gender by the other through a little “fade-out,” like they have in the movies. Nothing objectionable about this, not at all.
If you’ve followed any of these links back to the original comments, you’ll see that AntiFeministMedia, like most truly original thinkers, has gotten some resistance to his ideas — even from the normally forward-looking thinkers of the Men’s Rights subreddit. And a few downvotes!
But some of his comments are so clearly and obviously correct, so pithy and wise, that they get upvotes. Like this one, suggesting that female demand for iPads and mobile phones is one of the central driving forces behind war:
Well its nice to hear her comment that western women themselves have been complicit in foreign wars and the rape of native women by soldiers, so that companies can obtain gold and other precious metals for Ipads and moble phones which women seem to like so much.
Oh you evil women with your iPads and mobile phones! We men are of course immune to the devilish allure of computer technology. Indeed, I’m typing this blog post on an old Smith-Corona Galaxie Portable Typewriter.
“Porter is amazing in his insight. In Mr. Porter’s video of his talk. He nails it.
He WAS CLEARLY SAYING THAT MEN HAVE OBJECTIFIED WOMAN IN THE PAST AS SEXUAL OBJECT TO OWN AND POSSESS AND RAPE AND HARASS, FOR FUCKING CRYING OUT LOUD, HE WAS SPEAKING TO AN AUDIENCE MAINLY OF FEMINIST WOMEN. MR PORTER SAYING THAT MANY WOMEN ARE VERY VERY ANGRY THAT THEY HAVE BEEN RAPED, MOLESTED, TREATED AS SEXUAL OBJECTS.”
Yeah, he did. I referenced that, you illiterate. I specifically stated that toxic masculinity had a lot to do with sexual abuse of women. You, however, went on to say that it ALSO had to do with women controlling men. Porter said not a god damned thing about that.
“BUT I AM MOCKED BY WOMEN FOR BEING CELIBATE AND NOT OBJECTIFYING THEM. WHAT GIVES?”
You’re being mocked for treating women like villains, not for being celibate, you grand idiot.
“Believe I can be as critical to mRA’S as well as women.”
You just defended a raging heterosexist, cissexist bigot. ARe you sure you want to make that claim?
“No more Animalistic Bigoted Homphobia for me”
You should tell your movement, it seems like every MRA troll we get is anti-gay, at least forgetting they exist if not outright villainizing them.
“. It is the equivalent of Feminist accepting Lesbians as part of the sisterhood”
You really suck at your history, don’t you?
Pamy responded to what I said” ” many men are now getting the message which was inculcated to them for years by women not to be sexual pigs and think with our cocks only, many men are opting out of sex”. Bad timing .It is what it is.”
Holly said:
It’s dichotomous, all-or-nothing, zero-sum game style thinking that permeates the MRA movement, that’s why it doesn’t actually have any movement.
Pam I sound like a broken record I’ll say it again and this is to Ami who asked me if I like being celibate.
I as a man was inculcated for years as well as other men that women so not want men to think with their cocks, and men are pigs and objectify women and treat them as objects.
So a lot of men are choosing celibacy or monogamy or purity and are really seeing how thinking with their cocks puts you in bondage. Your always thinking about sex. Thats bondage
Ami you asked ” do I like my celibacy?” Sometimes I do and honestly sometimes I do not. But I know that it is best for me, If it was not I would be thinking with my cock all the time. I REFUSE TO BE AN ANIMALISTIC PIG MALE WHO THINKS WITH HIS COCK AND NOT HIS BRAIN. If I choose ever to have relations with a woman again it would be about emotional love not sex.
Yes many men as a result of feminism are really staring to listen and not objectify women and be a sexual male pig. That is part of :”toxic masculinity”.
Let me ask you this Pam or any women here Would you date a guy that thought with his cock all the time and there was no emotion involved with sex ?
I do, however, want to know if Holly’s name has been changed to Holly Fucking Read, because if it hasn’t, I think I want that last name for myself. Or maybe I’ll hyphenate it. MizDarwin Fucking-Read.
I like it.
You might not be thinking with your cock, but it seems as though you’re typing with it.
I REFUSE TO BE AN ANIMALISTIC PIG MALE WHO THINKS WITH HIS COCK AND NOT HIS BRAIN.
THAT’S GREAT BUT YOU CAN DO THAT AND ALSO HAVE SEX IF YOU WANT.
ALSO FEMINISTS DID NOT TELL YOU TO DO ANY OF THIS, NO, REALLY, WE DID NOT.
I REFUSE TO BE AN ANIMALISTIC PIG MALE WHO THINKS WITH HIS COCK AND NOT HIS BRAIN.
What does that mean? o_O
What does a man who “thinks with his cock” do?
What does a man who “thinks with his brain” do?
We need to at least know what you MEAN before nebody can answer you :3
I REFUSE TO BE AN ANIMALISTIC PIG MALE WHO THINKS WITH HIS COCK AND NOT HIS BRAIN.
THAT’S GREAT BUT YOU CAN DO THAT AND ALSO HAVE SEX IF YOU WANT.
ALSO FEMINISTS DID NOT TELL YOU TO DO ANY OF THIS, NO, REALLY, WE DID NOT.
-Holly (Fucking Read) Pervocracy
Ami asked you other things btw 😀 You should answer! 😀
You didn’t answer my question last time, so I’ll ask again: What happens when a women wants you? Do you think a woman can feel lust? Do they think about sex? Is that objectifying to men?
Let me ask you this Samuel or any other poster who”s name is Samuel and has making use of bad grammar words Would you learn to speak like a real person and not a bad sketch comedy “foreigner” character?
“Snowy wroteOh, would you like a hug Samuel? Tell you what, show me the feminists who call men gay wimps and I will give you a hug! If it’s so common as you say it shouldn’t be too hard to do, right? And then you’ll get a hug!
Im straight, but visited a gay bear bar with 2 friends who were a couple and it was one of the most laid back times I ever had in a club. Guys were just being friendly GUYS … there was none of the drama that occurs in places where women are idiots and think having guys fight over them is somehow cool.”
Wow! That’s so fascinating!
“Snowy some of he biggest allies the MRA movement has is gay men. There are some gay men that hang out with MRA”s.. No more Animalistic Bigoted Homphobia for me-Snowy I am especially calling for Gay men to join us the MRA movement. It is the equivalent of Feminist accepting Lesbians as part of the sisterhood now Some MRA movements have decided to ally with gay men.for our movement. Gay men can organize well. Look how Gay men have good organizational abilities. Gay men and straight men are now becoming allies.”
Thank you, Samuel! Everything is so clear to me now! Here I thought I was a feminist all this time but now I realized that, being a gay man, my real place is with you in the MRM. Unfortunately, I’m horribly disorganized, so I don’t know how much of an asset I would be. But I am a pretty sharp dresser, do you think that might be of some help to the movement?
Voip You didn’t answer my question last time, so I’ll ask again: What happens when a women wants you? Do you think a woman can feel lust? Do they think about sex? Is that objectifying to men?
Voip I’ll answer your question Back in March, at my company, I was at a luncheon for my company, and a women attended the luncheon began conversing with me. She was smiling and being a little flirtatious and she mentioned that we should carpool together for the next luncheon. I politely declined inasmuch as she was attractive- I am not dating now and refuse to put myself in position where I can be tempted(she was attractive)
Voip I am not certain this woman wanted to sleep with me or date me -she is a colleague of mine- but specifically if she did lust after me I would probably be uncomfortable because if she is seeing me as an object or lets say she wanted my money or something or my cock not my personality I would feel uncomfortable. I guess it could be considered objectifying men.
Let me ask you this Holly or Voip or any woman here would you date a guy that just though with his cock? would you sleep with a guy who wanted to fuck you as an object just so he can cum and he did not give a shit about any emotional connection, would you date him?sleep with him?.
Samuel, I can’t answer for others, but if I were looking for no-strings attached sex, yes, I’d sleep with a guy like that.
Let me ask you this Holly or Voip or any woman here would you date a guy that just though with his cock? would you sleep with a guy who wanted to fuck you as an object just so he can cum and he did not give a shit about any emotional connection, would you date him?sleep with him?.
I wouldn’t fuck a guy who thought of me as an object–but I would fuck a guy who wanted to fuck me. (I can’t believe the things I have to explain sometimes…) That’s not the same thing.
And fucking without emotional connection is fine so long as everyone knows that’s what’s going on and is okay with it.
Plus, emotional connection isn’t this magical thing. If you like someone, that’s emotional connection. It doesn’t have to be Twoo Wub to still be enough that you’re treating someone like a date and not a sex toy.
Ami asked What does that mean? o_O
What does a man who “thinks with his cock” do?
What does a man who “thinks with his brain” do?
We need to at least know what you MEAN before nobody can answer you?
A man who thinks with his cock sees women as possessions, all he cares about is sex not emotion not connection, Sex is not sex, it is just 2 people fornicating.
In Buddhism and even Hinduism Sex is seen as Holy. I will say Tantric sex could be appealing or Karma Sutra because it is not animalistic.
Holly I am in no way saying Sex is disgusting( I am replying to Holly for that statement because she seems to think because I am a celibate MRA I am anti sex).
A man who thinks with his brain cares about emotional spiritual connection like Karma Sutra. I think in the East they have a better take on sex than Americans.
“What happens when a women wants you?”
Magic.
“Do you think a woman can feel lust?”
I fucking hope so.
“Do they think about sex?”
Again, I sincerely hope so.
“Is that objectifying to men?”
No.
I’m going to ignore the first bit that’s based on whether or not he’s thinking with his cock because you have yet to offer any comprehensive explanation of what you mean by that.
I wouldn’t want to sleep with a guy who just wanted a glorified masturbation aid, but I’d have no problem fucking a guy who didn’t want a major emotional connection. It’s possible to see someone as a human being and have a meaningless one-night stand with them!
…not that that hasn’t been said already. Maybe it’ll get through if we repeat it often enough? /irrational optimism
Samuel, I can’t answer for others, but if I were looking for no-strings attached sex, yes, I’d sleep with a guy like that.
Voip you would sleep with a man who thought of you as an object?with no emotional connection
OMG THIS THREAD IS STILL GOING ON.
I don’t know what’s more frustrating, MRAL therapy hour or trying to convince Samuel that having sex with people does not equal objectifying and dehumanizing them.
At least MRAL could use commas properly.
/rimshot
Dammit, again with the late responses. At least I didn’t miss anything much, just the same ole’ “If sex isn’t a Big Holy Meaningful Deal, it’s EVIL OBJECTIFICATION!”
Sam: could you expand on what you consider an emotional connection? Trying to figure out if you mean Twu Wuv, or something more minor.
Hi, Samuel, I answered that one… and in that scenario, I’m probably objectifying him as well to some extent. No emotional connection necessary.
Does that shock you that women can want no connection?
Kristenmh, thank you, try the veal and tip your waitress!
Ooh, and I have a question for you!
I have a friend who I fuck regularly. We’ve known each other for years (the sex only started recently) and we’re pretty close, but the sex is just fun and meaningless. What are your thoughts on this relationship? Is he objectifying me because he’s putting his penis in me despite the fact that he’s a wonderful and supportive friend?
“You” being Samuel, in case that wasn’t clear. I’ll stop clogging up the comment’s section with my addendums now, I promise.
@Samuel can men want/have both sex and a relationship? xD
And as you can see, women are v different, and we also understand the difference between sex for sex, and a relationship XD