The other day we took a look at a Redditor who calls himself AntiFeministMedia. He does not seem to like the ladies very much. Indeed, in some of the posts of his I quoted, he went so far as to say that women are animals, not humans, and suggested that men should pretty much have the final say in anything involving reproduction (as clearly the women have been doing a terrible job of it).
So one might wonder: why have ladies at all? This is a thought that has crossed the mind of AntiFeministMedia more than a few times. And he’s got some ideas about how it could be done.
As he points out in this comment, men have known all along that ladies is trouble. But now, thanks to superior male brains, we finally have the technology to do something about it. Today, fleshlights! Tomorrow, the womb!
Men have known women are the problem right throughout history, and to deny it just goes to show how ignorant and stupid you are.
Religion’s, culture’s, all have there warnings about women.
And all these things will be known again. The dots will be joined, and its my hope that after this current fuck up of allowing feminism to take root, men will never allow it again.
I actually think its time men went foreward alone. We have the hi-technology now to clone little boys into the future, soon we will have female androids with artificial wombs. Identical to women in almost every way, except for the animal nature…
Women should be replaced by better technology.
Consider the many fine benefits of this plan:
If men didnt have to live in this human-female environment, but instead was guaranteed in having his sexual needs met, and his genes live on into the future, there would be a lot less conflict of all kinds.
This two-party system of male and female has served its purpose (in the most brutal way), we are rapidly approaching a time where things could be radically different.
Tell me more about this brave new world of which you speak, in which men can live their lives free of bitches:
Cloning science and female androids may just solve that woman problem for us.
I wouldnt advocate killing women, certainly not, but a gradual fade-out, allow women to live out their natural lives, while we transition to the new technology.
No need for anything as unpleasant as killing, no. Just the elimination of one gender by the other through a little “fade-out,” like they have in the movies. Nothing objectionable about this, not at all.
If you’ve followed any of these links back to the original comments, you’ll see that AntiFeministMedia, like most truly original thinkers, has gotten some resistance to his ideas — even from the normally forward-looking thinkers of the Men’s Rights subreddit. And a few downvotes!
But some of his comments are so clearly and obviously correct, so pithy and wise, that they get upvotes. Like this one, suggesting that female demand for iPads and mobile phones is one of the central driving forces behind war:
Well its nice to hear her comment that western women themselves have been complicit in foreign wars and the rape of native women by soldiers, so that companies can obtain gold and other precious metals for Ipads and moble phones which women seem to like so much.
Oh you evil women with your iPads and mobile phones! We men are of course immune to the devilish allure of computer technology. Indeed, I’m typing this blog post on an old Smith-Corona Galaxie Portable Typewriter.
It’s shockingly misandric to think that all male attraction to women or sex with women is objectifying or destructive. You’re really got to hate heterosexual men to think that.
@Holly srsly -_-
@Samuel what do you think of men who are not celibate and aren’t avoiding women/thinking about women/whatever xD Do you think they are harming women? o_O
“OK, Samuel, I really think you just want to go back to your MRA blogs and say, ‘see, they mocked me!'”
Hellkell, I think it’s funny that I’m the only one standing straight up and saying, “Yes! I am mocking you! You have interpreted my actions correctly!” and yet he won’t talk to me.
I’m mocking him, but it’s not because he’s a man.
It’s because he’s nearly incomprehensible in his native language, thinks women don’t want men to be attracted to them ever, thinks feminists should do him lots of favors because he did them the honor of speaking to them, doesn’t see anything misogynistic about being a MGTOW, and because he gets lovey-lovey on the trolls even when they make even less sense than him.
Yeah… being a man is not the problem here.
Dude, if this “friend” is actually you, it’s OK to be dyslexic. I myself have Asperger’s; there are lots of ways to be human. If you do have some sort of learning disability, it would help if you mention it, then people won’t get mad at the way you type any more because they’ll know you’re putting in more effort than they are.
Feyline:
Samuel, just so we’re absolutely clear on this particular aspect of your worldview: Do you believe it’s possible to be sexually attracted to someone without objectifying them?
His writings that I’ve seen strongly indicate against this possibility. I’m also not sure that he believes women can want sex.
@holly- hes also said actually misogynistic stuff, like that feminism has been more successful than the mrm because women have a herd mentality and work better as a group
OT but i just dropped my international law class and signed for domestic violence so next time owlslave shows up to peddle his horseshit about vawa or whatever ill have shiny new statistics for him
and owlslave in case you see this and want to bleat about feminist indoctrination for the first day of class were reading a paper called Real Men May Not Cry, But They Are Victims Of Domestic Violence
Holly Stated t’s shockingly misandric to think that all male attraction to women or sex with women is objectifying or destructive. You’re really got to hate heterosexual men to think that.
Holly this is what Feminists have been complaining about for years. Holly I am admittedly not as learned in feminist theory as you are. I know there are different “waves” of feminism.
There was a woman Holly named Andrea Dworkin do you know who she is ? She was vehemently anti porn and began an anti porn movement I think in 1979. She felt that porn objectified women as objects and I have heard many many many many many women complain that men just “look at their breasts” not their eyes.
I think that some feminists like Dworkin have a different view than some feminists like you Holly have. Porter spoke clearly to women in the audience on the video addressing their concerns about objectification of women as objects not human.
Some women accused me of wanting to get laid here because women can see me as ‘safe” Like I am some pick up artist. I cannot win!!!! either I am uneducated, illiterate, or have ulterior motives. Read my above post Holly Fucking Read it!!!!
This is the internet, we are not in a public place -how can I try to pick up women in cyberspace on a gender relations blog?
Read the post on the scenario of the hypothetical gender conference . I nailed it on that thread. If I were to pick up and sleep with a feminist or a women after saying I am celibate and refuse to objectify women anymore, I would be considered the BIGGEST HYPOCRITE THERE IS AND AND MY MRA MISSION AS A LEADER IN THE MRA MOVEMENT WOULD BE DESTROYED DESTROYED DESTROYED DESTROYED DESTROYED DESTROYED
voip wrote is writings that I’ve seen strongly indicate against this possibility. I’m also not sure that he believes women can want sex
No I did not say that. I am just sayng that it is ironic that as many women are able to become sexual these days and expressive about it such as the “slut walk” movement, many men are now getting the message which was inculcated to them for years by women not to be sexual pigs and think with our cocks only, many men are opting out of sex. Bad timing .It is what it is.
Holly this is what Feminists have been complaining about for years.
No it’s not! I am a feminist my very own self and I have never once complained about this! I have never heard anyone else complain about this! IT IS AN IMAGINARY THING AND YOU NEED TO STOP IMAGINING IT!
Really. It’s perfectly okay to be attracted to women. Normal and healthy. Liking women and sleeping with women are just fine by 98% of feminists and also 98% human of human beings in general.
It’s fine if you want to be celibate, but please stop imagining that anyone told you that you had to be.
She felt that porn objectified women as objects and I have heard many many many many many women complain that men just “look at their breasts” not their eyes.
Right, but you can look at a woman’s breasts and her eyes. You can appreciate a woman’s body and also treat her like a person. That’s the normal thing to do.
Cripes, I’m starting to type like you.
The take-home, Samuel, the real Lesson To Grow On, is:
FEMINISTS AND WOMEN DO NOT DEMAND THAT MEN BE CELIBATE.
(It’s okay if you are! If you don’t want sex, don’t have sex! No problem there! But understand that’s your decision made because of your needs.)
IT IS POSSIBLE TO RESPECT A PERSON AND BE SEXUALLY ATTRACTED TO THEM. FEMINISTS/WOMEN ARE NOT ANGRY AT MEN WHO DO THIS.
understand?
Samuel, protip: we’ve discussed Dworkin ad nauseam already. The reason you haven’t heard her mentioned recently is because we’ve already said everything there is to say about her. You’re really, really behind. (To compensate for this, just assume that anything feminism-related you mention is something that we knew 10 years ago.)
But you should know this because you’re talking about someone from the 70s.
Read my above post Holly Fucking Read it!!!!
Assuming you aren’t just renaming Holly to Holly Fucking Read, you seem to be upset about people misinterpreting you. Another protip: If everyone in the world is misinterpreting you, the fault doesn’t lie with everyone. Especially if they’ve repeatedly told you that your posts are confusing, incoherent, and hard to read.
Samuel, if you’re a leader in the MRA movement, no wonder they don’t do much of anything except whine about women on the internet. Kind of like what you’re doing now.
There. You’ve been mocked.
Holly your really angering me now: Holly said I only sleep with feminist guys, but I don’t sleep with all the feminist guys, if you get my drift. It’s not exactly a guaranteed in.
Holly ” a guaranteed in” women still try to control men with sex. I absolutely refuse to refute this belief.. Not all women wish to control men, but many do. Once a man can disciplines himself to control his sex drive he no longer thinks with his cock. He becomes human.
Snowy wroteOh, would you like a hug Samuel? Tell you what, show me the feminists who call men gay wimps and I will give you a hug! If it’s so common as you say it shouldn’t be too hard to do, right? And then you’ll get a hug!
Im straight, but visited a gay bear bar with 2 friends who were a couple and it was one of the most laid back times I ever had in a club. Guys were just being friendly GUYS … there was none of the drama that occurs in places where women are idiots and think having guys fight over them is somehow cool.
It’s dichotomous, all-or-nothing, zero-sum game style thinking that permeates the MRA movement, that’s why it doesn’t actually have any movement.
Samuel – You asked if guys were feminists to get laid. I told you that they won’t get laid just because they’re feminists. This isn’t controlling guys with sex–it’s more like the opposite. I’d like guys to be feminists, but I’m not going to promise them sex if they are. That’s not a whole lot of sexual pressure.
And just to really rub it in: NO ONE IS MAKING YOU BE CELIBATE.
That’s your choice, and it’s a perfectly fine choice, but don’t think that feminists or women want you to be celibate. We’re fine with men who are attracted to women and also respectful of them. Which happens. Really it does. If we say this enough times, will you at least acknowledge that we said it? YOU CAN BE ATTRACTED TO WOMEN AND ALSO RESPECTFUL OF THEM.
Snowy some of he biggest allies the MRA movement has is gay men. There are some gay men that hang out with MRA”s.. No more Animalistic Bigoted Homphobia for me-Snowy I am especially calling for Gay men to join us the MRA movement. It is the equivalent of Feminist accepting Lesbians as part of the sisterhood now Some MRA movements have decided to ally with gay men.for our movement. Gay men can organize well. Look how Gay men have good organizational abilities. Gay men and straight men are now becoming allies.
I think the real Samuel is starting to show xD
Snowy wroteOh, would you like a hug Samuel? Tell you what, show me the feminists who call men gay wimps and I will give you a hug! If it’s so common as you say it shouldn’t be too hard to do, right? And then you’ll get a hug!
Im straight, but visited a gay bear bar with 2 friends who were a couple and it was one of the most laid back times I ever had in a club. Guys were just being friendly GUYS … there was none of the drama that occurs in places where women are idiots and think having guys fight over them is somehow cool.
How is that a response btw? o_O Snowy asked you where are all the feminists who call gay men wimps, and make fun of straight guys as being gay.
So far you haven’t shown nething xD
Also Samuel, do you LIKE being celibate? xD You talk so much about how great it is, but it seems like you’re actually rly angry about this… and now you’re getting mad at Holly for… some reason o_O
And I’ll sleep w/ ppl I want to, and I’ll be in relationships w/ ppl I like xD I think this is true of most ppl (regardless of gender) Is this what “controlling” is to you? xD
Snowy some of he biggest allies the MRA movement has is gay men. There are some gay men that hang out with MRA”s.. No more Animalistic Bigoted Homphobia for me-Snowy I am especially calling for Gay men to join us the MRA movement. It is the equivalent of Feminist accepting Lesbians as part of the sisterhood now Some MRA movements have decided to ally with gay men.for our movement. Gay men can organize well. Look how Gay men have good organizational abilities. Gay men and straight men are now becoming allies.
Still not an answer to what he asked. xD
Holly this is what Feminists have been complaining about for years.
Which feminists? How many? “For years”… how many years? o_O
How did you hear about Dworkin? When did you? Have you read everything she wrote?
I’m wondering since if all of these feminists have been telling you this and you are celibate b/c of it, you must be v familiar w/ their writings, and also have been exposed to them for quite some time :3
I think Samuel is becoming like Jack Donovan.
I love how Samuel just dodges xD I point out that he’s called NWO a great MRA leader, and nope, no criticism of NWO… and.. nothing xD
I asked him “what do you think of men who are not celibate and aren’t avoiding women/thinking about women/whatever xD Do you think they are harming women? o_O” that… nothing xD
David asks him to show him all the good MGTOWers out there that he says are out there… nothing. xD
Snowy asks him about where the feminists are that call gay men wimps are… nothing. xD
The only thing he seems interested in doing is put Holly up as some sort of avatar of feminism and then get mad at her that she’s controlling sex and making him celibate or something o_O (he’s moved from Ozymandias to Holly as his “main squeeze” now xD )
Reduntant Samuel is redundant.Look at how redundant the reduntant statements of the poster Samuel who is you is making. If I were to describe Samuels postings I would say they were redundant but that”s only one flaw of many flaws that poster Saumel makes.
I think Samuel is trying to say “Feminists didn’t want me to be attracted to women, so I’ve made a huge painful sacrifice for them and become celibate because I’m such a great guy, and you’re still not happy!”
I’m not sure exactly why he’s saying this, but it explains his reluctance to acknowledge anyone saying “No, actually, we never told you to do that.”