Well, this explains a few things:
Narcissistic Heterosexual Men Target Their Hostility Primarily at Heterosexual Women, the Objects of Their Desires, Study Finds
ScienceDaily (July 29, 2010) — Heterosexual women bear the brunt of narcissistic heterosexual men’s hostility, while heterosexual men, gay men and lesbian women provoke a softer reaction, according to psychologist Dr. Scott Keiller from Kent State University at Tuscarawas. This is likely to be due to women’s unparalleled potential for gratifying, or frustrating, men’s narcissism, the author concludes. They are crucial players and even gatekeepers in men’s quests for sexual pleasure, patriarchal power and status.
More here. The actual study here (subscribers only).
Yes, like a lot of psych studies, it was based on a relatively small sample of college students (104 undergraduate men, to be exact). But after this post yesterday – and, you know, the entire content of this blog — it’s hard not to think that Keiller is on to something.
So if the rapist can’t find anyone drunk or ‘dressed like a slut’, what does he do then, RB?
Was wondering when you’d get to that XD
It’s not MY study xD You asked for more info about what Rutee showed you, I obliged :3
How do you know they are lying? If they said they raped based on dress, would you also accuse them of lying? xD
Is there any REAL evidence about rapists and their victim selection process?
That’s actually what ppl (like Laura and I) have been asking you :3
How do you know so much about rapists and their victim selection process? :3 Even Rutee provided something (even tho it’s a study w/ a small sample space that you discount cuz you think everybody in it is lying and that it’s a feminist study xD ) :]
And he still doesn’t like Johnny Pez. He must be a cat person 😉
@ Ami
1. Yes women can drink as much as they like, whether in clubs, bars or whatever. They have that right. You know what rights I have? I can walk up to a gang of hells angels and tell them they suck, that the mongol bike gang is better then them and that they all can suck my dick. But it would be a really fucking bad idea. Just like getting blitzed in a club wearing slut wear is a bad idea.
Now, I’ve answered quite a few of your questions, so before I answer the next one I’d like you to answer one of mine.
I’m sure you are familiar with the whole slut walk situation. Now the Toronto police officer who made the supposedly offensive statement about women not dressing like sluts to attract that sort of attention, well here is a man who apparently deals with the issue regularly, he is likely an expert on the situation, so why do you disregard his advice regarding how to dress?
Random Brother
@ Magpie
If he can’t find anyone drunk or slutty enough, he runs up to the nearest store, grabs some medicine for a queasy stomach, walks up to the best looking feminist he can find, thinks about it for a minute, says fuck this, then goes home and masturbates.
Random Brother
For a start, I have no idea what his advice regarding how to dress means!
See, he could go home and masturbate anyway. Why does he rape?
But it would be a really fucking bad idea. Just like getting blitzed in a club wearing slut wear is a bad idea.
But you didn’t say “bad idea” you said that women told you they have the right to drink. xD
I live in Toronto so I’m aware of it. :3
so why do you disregard his advice regarding how to dress?
Because I see no reason to regard his advice. xD There isn’t nething to substantiate it. In fact, the police force disagreed with his remarks and disciplined him.
Toronto police Chief Bill Blair said the comments highlight a “training issue” in the force.
“If that type of, frankly, archaic thinking still exists among any of my officers, it highlights for me the need to continue to train my officers and sensitize them to the reality of victimization,” he said.
The comments attributed to the officer “place the blame upon victims, and that’s not where the blame should ever be placed,” he said.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/story/2011/02/17/toronto-officer-slut657.html
You would think that if they could be substantiated, the police force would have released the data and research, and the Chief would also have said that what the police officer said was the experience of all the other police officers :]
@ Ami
It’s common fucking sense. Most guys want the hottest women they can get. Hot, attractive, good looking. You think that rapists have completely different tastes than other men?
Why would you think that?
Most rapist with a choice between raping Angelina Jolie or Rosanne Barr would rape Jolie.
Just like most men with the choice of sex with Angelina Jolie vs Rosanne Barr would choose Jolie.
How hard is that to get?
Random Brother
Anyway I’ve been on here too long and have stuff to do.
The loyal opposition bids you all good bye.
Using your logic, I’ve known many rape survivors in survivor’s groups and group trauma therapy, also many rape crisis counsellors and therapists in both therapy and through my job. There is no pattern in dress nor body type of survivors. : And the people who work with survivors and run rape crisis centres, also say that anybody can be a survivor and “not dressing like a slut” does not prevent rape.
If your argument is an appeal to authority b/c the police officer knows rape survivors, then this would be a differing opinion from many ppl who know and work with rape survivors. :]
Did he just say that “some ahole grabbed someone and forced themselves on a girl” is pretty much the same as sex?
Too right Ami. I wonder where the tracky over flanelette nighty fits into his theory :]
Oh Chuckee, my little chickadee… did you have to leave a tautology in the middle of the floor. Anyone makes reflexive responses when overwhelmed. It’s what overwhelmed means; to be in a situation where one has no control, or ability to affect the outcome.
We see you engaging in this when you are asked “why” questions. We see factfinder doing it when he’s faced with actual facts and source material. We see NWO doing it anytime he’s asked anything.
I’d be tempted to say you are a trifle overwhelmed when it comes to comprehension of biology, esp. when I see non-sense like this, Humans have biological predispositions based on their sex, but gender roles do not really exist beyond the need to subscribe to culture’s requirements as an ecosystem.
Cultures requirements as an ecosystem? Hunh…? Ecosystems are not culture. They are relationships between species in the balancing of trophic behavior, each in pursuit of it’s own survival.
Culture is a single species interaction.
Though I grant you that gender roles are cultural, and it’s why the idiocy about “ladybrains” reflexively wanting to be subbmissive when overhwhelmed is so much bullshit.
Snowy: RBis not an apologist, he’s more a a rape denialist. Even, one might say, an advocate.
I see that Chuckeedee hates feminism, but he blames the ills of the present system (which he describes as a problem) as both caused by women, and “biologically predisposed”, but he is against the people (feminists) who want to change it.
One might be excused for thinking he likes the idea of a cutlure where women are second class citizens, and is just using a bunch of multi-syllabic words in complex sentences to dress mutton as lamb and try to make it seem there is a rational basis for his desires.
Magpie: I learned it as, “As the dancing girl said to the bishop”.
Or sometimes, “As the bishop said to the dancing girl.”
Hey, good morning, RB! I’m sorry to see that you’ve been reduced to slinging ridiculous ad hom insults in lieu of having something of substance to say.
So let’s get back on track… you’ve asserted that there’s a “new definition” of rape inspired by feminists which basically makes it impossible for men to avoid being rapists, unless they are totally celibate. OK then.
Since you’re in the US like I am, surely you’re aware that sexual assault, like other forms of assault, is prosecuted at the state level. The federal government only gets involved in cases where state jurisdiction is absent or compromised (i.e. the assault happens on a military base, indigenous tribal land, if an abduction across a state line is involved, etc.). Accordingly, rape/sexual assault charges are pursued under statutes passed by state legislatures.
With me so far? OK. So if there’s a new definition of rape under which men (and only men, apparently) are prosecuted, did every state adopt this new standard? When did it happen? Is there a difference between states (e.g., more liberal states like California have tougher standards than conservative ones like Alabama)? If you don’t know the answer, I’d settle for the state that you, yourself live in.
For example, I’m in Illinois (a somewhat-liberal state), and this is our standard: State of Illinois Criminal Sexual Assault.
Huh. It’s gender-neutral: The accused commits criminal sexual assault if he or she:
(1) commits an act of sexual penetration by the use of force or threat of force…
I see nothing about two or three “extra strokes” being prosecutable, do you? And the code was revised just last month, so there’s no question of it being old language.
So… unless other states are radically tougher than mine (doubtful), I do not see what it is that you’re complaining about.
Oh, and please no “ad homs” because I will just have to laugh at you. 😀
RB Now, I’ve answered quite a few of your questions, so before I answer the next one I’d like you to answer one of mine.
What is is with the MRA types that they get answer after answer and then whine they aren’t being answered, while pretending that repetition of the same point = them providing answers to pretty specific questions (i.e., in this case, what studies show that, “slutty” dress = greater chance of being raped? I mean common sense tells you [based on arrests/convictions, that black men are much more likely to rob you/do drugs than white guys, right? That’s the same common sense that makes, “dressing slutty” a cause of rape, right?]. I presume those same studies will also define, “slutty dress”, because I recall reading that book on “modesty” which defined ankle length skirts that were billowy as being immodest, and the same for tight jeans; and we know that tight jeans prevent rape, because they need to be removed with, at least, the wearers assistance. A court in Australia told me so, so it must be true).
RB… Care to show some studies, not just your ideas of common sense? Because Mark Twain summed up Common Sense a long time ago.
Hey, good morning, RB! I’m sorry to see that you’ve been reduced to slinging ridiculous ad hom insults in lieu of having something of substance to say
He’s not been “reduced” to anything. Slinging insults has always been his M.O. Be careful or he’ll question your manhood, or something. I know it’s silly, but it’s all he’s got.
That, and “feminists are ugly, hurr hurr!”
I’m all prepared with my laugh track ready, captain. 😀
And I see that Chuckee continues to be a pretentious nob.
Pro tip: if you can’t state your argument in plain, concise language, then you have no argument at all. Your babbling impresses no one.
And we have hairy legs! And cats! And shit… And we can’t get boyfriends but we abuse them! And no one will fuck us yet we are incredibly promiscuous! And we hate all men but we love ‘manginas’ and ‘big daddy gov’! Man what is a feminist like, I’m so confused.
So wait… when you speak about knowing who rapists target, what exp are you speaking from? o: Are you saying any heterosexual man knows the mindset of a rapist? o_O
Why do you believe rapists rape? o:
If your theory is true btw, then groups at high risk of rape or sexual assault should also be most desirable ones right? xD
Also what kinds of women do you think are in my trauma therapy support groups? How old are they? What are their body types? What were they wearing? What ethnicity are they? :]