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Susan Walsh: Chartbreaker, Part 2

Happy day!  Susan Walsh has drawn another diagram! Loyal readers of Man Boobz will recall the last time that Walsh, a would-be relationship expert who blogs at Hooking Up Smart, tried her hand at diagram making. It wasn’t pretty. In an attempt to sketch out the economic costs of sluthood, Walsh cobbled together an extravagantly convoluted mess of a flow-chart based on little more than a few bad assumptions and what she insisted was common sense.

This time, Walsh attempts to chart how the sexual revolution has transformed dating, borrowing her argument largely from some dude called Frost who blogs about sex and relationships and PUA bullshit at  Freedom Twenty-Five.

Back in the old “leave it to Beaver” days, Frost argues, virtually all men and women paired off efficiently with partners who exactly matched their level of hotness, as charted on the infamous ten-point scale beloved of pickup artists and other such creatures. Fives married fives, nines married nines, and even lowly ones were able to find true love and hot ugly sex with others as unfortunate as they were. As Walsh puts it, attempting to make all this somehow sound vaguely scientific:

This system worked pretty well in achieving equilibrium with respect to SMV (sexual market value).

Naturally, neither Frost nor Walsh offer any evidence that any of this was true. Which only makes sense, since it, er, wasn’t.

Let’s set that aside for a moment and move on to our current fallen state, post-sexual revolution. Now, apparently, a small minority of hot dudes score all the chicks, from nines on down to threes. Everyone else spends their lonely nights alone with their hands and a choice of vibrator or fleshlight.

Here’s where the diagram comes in. It’s a doozy:

From "Hooking Up Smart."

Now, Walsh doesn’t actually explain how she knows this (or, rather believes it, since it clearly is not true), or why exactly she thinks the sexual revolution is to blame. But Frost does, sort of. With the sexual revolution, he argues,

the social convention of monogamy starts to break down. Women are free to do what they want, and they quickly realize that the men they can persuade to have short-term sexual relationships with are much, much more attractive than the men willing to marry them. Attractive men are free to eschew marriage, and instead maintain a harem of rotating friends-with-benefits and one-night stands. Super-attractive men (professional athletes, rock stars, bloggers) can spend every night with a different coterie of young, attractive women, railing lines off their ass cheeks and banging them senseless.

Sounds great for men. And not too bad for women either, who get to shag NHL players and bloggers instead of their ho-hum husbands.

Wait a minute. “… and bloggers?” Bloggers are now the alpha males? I wish I’d known this sooner!

But every woman who elects to join a harem, must necessarily leave a lonely man behind in the great mating scramble. … The men at the bottom are left to their RPGs and porn.

So there you have the effects of the sexual revolution on men: Great for the few, awful for the teeming masses.

Well, there’s a certain logic to that argument. It’s just not, you know, true.

Walsh and all the manosphere dudes who’ve convinced themselves that 80% of men have been left sexless have it backwards: as a handy FAQ at the Kinsey Institute points out, only about 10 percent of men don’t have sex during any given year. The average frequency of sex ranges from more than 100 times a year for those in their teens and twenties to about 70 times a year for those in their 40s.

But what about the ladies? Frost explains that they suffer too, especially those unfortunate enough to be mega-hotties. Frost seems to base this conclusion almost entirely on the sexual history of one Betty Draper. This seems a very small sample size to me. Also, she’is fictional. But that doesn’t stand in Frost’s way:

What about the top woman? The ultimate hottie? Previously, she had the top man all to herself. She literally could not have asked for anything more, assuming as I do that women naturally gravitate toward sleeping with the one man who is their best option at a given time, while men are only as faithful as their options. Suddenly, her man is beset by hussies, plying him with offers of cheap sex. How does Betty Draper feel about the breakdown of monogamy in her world? …

Now [the top women] must choose between sharing, or settling for a man far below her previous catch. Meanwhile, uglier women can choose between monogamy with a man far above her previous level, or a shared slice of one of the top men. She is unequivocally better off, as the hotter women are unequivocally worse off.

Frost concludes:

The Sexual Revolution harms attractive women, and unattractive men. It benefits unattractive women, and attractive men.

Betty Drapers of the world, unite!

Naturally, none of this is the fault of men. It is, Frost and Walsh apparently agree, the fault of all those mid-level bitches slutting it up with the top men. It’s all their fault that the ladies at the top and bottom are getting left high and dry.

Indeed, it’s high time that the hottest hotties stood up for their rights, Frost argues in a second blog post:

It never seems to occur to the hot girls of the world that the sexual revolution is the cause of their troubles. Without it, the best that a top man could do is find a top woman, and devote his life to her. In our present dystopia,  he can find that top woman, and rip her heart and soul to pieces by maintaining a harem of flings on the side.

If it wasn’t for the legions of female 7′s and 8′s throwing themselves at the male 9′s, the female 9′s could have their men all to themselves. But in the world as it is, they will always be competing with the omnipresent availability of cheap and easy sex.

Were the hot women to regain their hot pride, sluts and feminists alike would quake in their boots:

The greatest fear of the feminists is that desirable women like yourselves will wake up the lies they’ve been fed, embrace their feminine modesty, and cast the harsh light reality on of the fat, shrill, used-up slutwalkers and middle-aged divorcees.

What of the not-quite-hotties? Walsh has some harsher advice for all those “mediocre sluts” out there riding that alpha asshole cock carousel. She writes:

For less attractive women, an objective assessment of market value is essential. That can only be realized by evaluating which men are interested in dating you rather than banging you.

In other words: mid-level ladies, you’re still losers. Eventually, you asses will get fat, your skin will get wrinkly, and the alpha assholes will grow tired of banging you. So what are you poor gals to do? Walsh offers this grim assessment:

These are the hard truths of the Post Sexual Revolution era. There are a few winners, and many losers. It is difficult to see how equilibrium can ever be regained. For now at least, your only option is to think carefully and realistically about your personal life goals. Make sure the choices you’re making get you closer to them.

(Confidential to Susan Walsh: You do know that using terms like “equilibrium,” like you’re some sort of sexual economist, doesn’t actually make your bullshit true?)

Given that everything in Frost and Walsh’s posts here is such unmitigated bullshit, I think I have some better advice for women of all hotness levels (if they haven’t already figured this out for themselves): stop taking relationship advice from a woman who wants you to hate yourself.

And speaking of bad choices: those smileys? Oy. Strive for elegant simplicity, not tacky clutter.

NOTE: Chuck on Gucci Little Piggy has written a response of sorts to this post. I’ve replied on his blog here. But there is something distressing going on there: Someone has posted several rude comments there under the name “Man Boobz.” THAT PERSON IS NOT ME. If any of you are responsible, STOP IMMEDIATELY. I’ve asked Chuck to ban that person and delete the comments.

EDITED TO ADD: Chuck changed the name of the commenter to “not man boobz.” That makes sense to me.

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MertvayaRuka
MertvayaRuka
13 years ago

@cynickal:

“Well, when a boy geek and a girl geek *REALLY* love each other, they roll a lot of dice…”

I am so re-using that.

mediumdave
mediumdave
13 years ago

Orion, I agree that “the model” has a certain amount of internal logic… the problem is that it’s based on nonsense. In the real world, there are not large numbers of beautiful women “forced” into spinsterhood. Do you see any?

Magpie
Magpie
13 years ago

Re: used up vaginas. If I haven’t had a penis in my vagina for 10 years, does that make me 10 years less of a hag????

Nobinayamu
Nobinayamu
13 years ago

Fuck MRAs, it’s sad but not surprising. I have, unfortunately, met a number of women who sought approval from men by slut-shaming other women. The irony, of course, is what they were often seeking was male approval in the hopes that it would translate into romantic/sexual interest and, thus, painted themselves into a proverbial corner.

It’s hard to be forward with a man if you’ve been indiscriminately shaming all the women who seem “forward”.

Sharculese
Sharculese
13 years ago

It’s not that complicated. All women are assumed to prefer monogamy to polyamory, but are willing to go poly for a sufficiently high-level man. All men are assumed to prefer polyamory to monogamy, but are willing to go monogamous for a sufficiently hot woman.

The trouble is, because men prefer polyamory more strongly than women prefer marriage, men are willing to sleep around with people “below” them but women are not willing to “marry down.”

that’s beyond complicated. it’s just a convoluted mess. dating isn’t a calculus problem. if you have to put so much effort into understand it, that’s probably because you treat it like one.

redlocker
13 years ago

So…Orion, do you agree with Susan’s logic?

Nobinayamu
Nobinayamu
13 years ago

I’m guessing the whole “used up vagina” thing is one part size anxiety combined with one part… not actually having a whole lot of “hands-on” experience with vagina. Per se.

You know what I’ve always found funny? This obsession with the “used up” or “worn out” vagina from men who want to go back to the old days when birth control was scarce and women often had upwards of six children.* Uterine prolapse, anyone?

*For the record, I don’t think that all women who had lots of children had “worn out” vaginas or uterine prolapse. In fact the former prevalence of families with six and more kids makes me think that it’s all but impossible for vaginas to “wear out”.

Magpie
Magpie
13 years ago

Vaginas are pretty amazing, really. So are penises for that matter. I wonder do these guys think their penis might wear out, with the constant inflate-deflate thing?

cynickal
cynickal
13 years ago

@Magpie, well there’s also a lot of erosion from friction as well…

cynickal
cynickal
13 years ago

@Orion, you know what happens when you assume…?

Captain Bathrobe
13 years ago

Re: used up vaginas. If I haven’t had a penis in my vagina for 10 years, does that make me 10 years less of a hag????

I think you automatically get your virginity back. Use it well, padawan.

Victoria von Syrus
Victoria von Syrus
13 years ago

I’m surprised we’ve gotten this far without someone making an ECONOMIC STAGNATION!!!!! reference.

Orion
13 years ago

Nope, Susan’s model is almost completely inconsistent with reality as I observe it. It’s just more consistent with itself than some give it credit for.

Captain Bathrobe
13 years ago

As for vaginas being used up: I think there’s some good old fashioned Oedipal stuff going on here, since the older the vagina, the more like mommy’s it is, supposedly. I think that may account for the popularity for the shaved trend in porn, which is something that baffles me, personally.

Shora
13 years ago

Victoria Von Syrus

I made on the blog thread. I think i was the only one who was amused.

According to the commentariat over there, I’m a used up cheating piece of shit that quality men will avoid like the plague. The only reason I’m sex pz is to delude myself of that fact for just a little while longer….

no more mr nice guy
13 years ago

Why does Ms. Walsh believe that attractiveness is the only quality that people look for in a sexual and romantic partner? While attractiveness is a major one, people can disqualified on account of personality just as easily.

MRAs are constantly confusing one-night-stands and relationships. It’s one of the reason Roissy and Roosh are seen as dating gurus for them. For them the only reason for a man to get married to a woman or to have a girlfriend is that she’s hot. Personality doesn’t count for them. That’s why they are obsessed by college girls and think that all women above 25 have no success with men.

and I wonder where MrA’s develop their coldly transactional views about relationships.

Because they can only have sex with prostitutes.

Pyena
13 years ago

Okay, I’ve been reading the post and comments over there, and I’m afraid I just don’t get it.

Maybe it’s because I’m still a virgin, but I honestly don’t understand these people. What’s the POINT of making sex and relationships out to be some sort of marketplace? What the hell do they care who other people sleep with? How can they see other people as nothing more than commodities to be bought and sold and used? It’s pathetic.

As far as I can tell, they’re all jealous, insecure, obsessive little people who can’t be satisfied unless everyone else is playing by their rules. Like very young children when the teacher has them play a nonsense game, and one child breaks a rule and another child throws a hissy fit because the other kid’s not doing it right.

“No! You’re supposed to do it THIS way! Waaaaaah!”

Jill the Spinster
Jill the Spinster
13 years ago

Well, as a 10/10, I have to a agree that it is difficult to be so beautiful…

Fuck MRAs
Fuck MRAs
13 years ago

The level of obsession with other people’s boinking habits is definitely disconcerting. These are the kind of people who have telescopes and binoculars by their front window.

SallyStrange
SallyStrange
13 years ago

What Walsh and MRAs seem to want is a form of sexual Marxism: from each according to her abilities, to each according to his needs. Needless to say, it doesn’t work in reverse.

Captain, I salute you. I can’t wait to accuse the next MRA Greek system whiner of being a “sexual Marxist.” For once the GOP/Fox-induced hysteria over labels like “Marxist” is going to come in handy.

no more mr nice guy
13 years ago

As far as I can tell, they’re all jealous, insecure, obsessive little people who can’t be satisfied unless everyone else is playing by their rules. Like very young children when the teacher has them play a nonsense game, and one child breaks a rule and another child throws a hissy fit because the other kid’s not doing it right.

They have Narcissistic Personality Disorder : they think that world must revolve around them.

speedlines
speedlines
13 years ago

Unfortunately, I’ve seen MRA’s defend “sexual socialism” by saying it’s okay in that context because women are not a finite resource.

Fuck MRAs
Fuck MRAs
13 years ago

I can’t believe I missed the sexual Marxist thing before.

Sheeeeer brilliance, that is. I look forward to the quizzical looks and subsequent hissy fits that ensue when I start using it.

Magpie
Magpie
13 years ago

Captain Bathrobe, I don’t think I’d want my virginity back 🙂 I might just ring up old what’s-his-name and tell him he can keep it 😉

Magpie
Magpie
13 years ago

Assuming he’s still got it of course. He might have thrown it away
or lost it when he moved
or sold it for drug money
or pretended it was his own and given it to someone else