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MRA Peter Nolan on Anders Breivik: “In different times … he would be called a hero.”

The work of a "hero?"

Some in the manosphere have been quick to label mass murderer Anders Breivik a “madman,” trying their best to pretend that his noxious misogynist ideology bears no resemblance to their own. Others, while endorsing at least some of his ideas, have distanced themselves from his actions.

As for MRA loose cannon Peter-Andrew: Nolan(c), well, I’ll just let him explain himself. In a comment on The Spearhead, which naturally earned him multiple upvotes from the assembled mob, the man with the strangely punctuated name offered this take [LINK FIXED] on the killer:

Anders Breivik sees himself as a soldier who is fighting for a worthy cause. That cause being his country. Women and leftists then make him out to be “insane” and are looking for “who is to blame”. Well they might start looking in the mirror. The most pervasive element of western civilization today is its hatred of men and all things male. There is a particularly strong hatred of fathers and husbands. I know. I used to be a father and a husband. I have never experienced hatred in my life as vehement as by women in divorce.

And then the justifications began:

It is only natural and normal that some men decide to take matters into their own hands at all the hatred spewed at them and their marginalization. Men often see that some things are worth fighting for. Men often then take action to fight for what they believe in.

Anders Breivik is not crazy. He’s as rational as the next man. He sees that his country is being destroyed. He sees that the people responsible for that destruction are the left of politics. And he would be correct. He took action to stop what he believes is the destruction of his country.

Followed by a smug told-you-so:

I have been telling women for three years now that hatred of men in general and fathers in particular is going to see men killing a lot of women and children. Well? We just saw 76.

Of course, when Nolan refers to “telling women” that angry men will erupt in violence, what he means is “offering guys on The Spearhead specific tips on how exactly to kill innocent people.”

I’m not going to repost the vile suggestions he set forth in a now notorious Spearhead comment some months back, but I will note that they included handy tips on how to efficiently kill police officers, as well as specific advice on the best ways to take out large numbers of people in “malls … girls schools, police stations, guvment buildings. Full of women and manginas.” He ended the comment with a not-terribly-convincing attempt at plausible deniability:

Do any of you here realise just how easy it is to ANY of these things? I am not recommending them or even condining them. But if a man got into the frame of mind of Sodini and was actually SMART about it. There are PLENTY of ways he could attack women and manginas and their cop protectors with NO CHANCE AT ALL OF BEING CAUGHT as long as he kept his mouth shut.

Naturally, this comment got dozens of upvotes from the Spearhead regulars.

In a followup comment on The Spearhead last night, Nolan mocked another commenter for offering words of sympathy to the “innocent victims.” That last phrase seemed to send him into a fury:

Those who were killed were not “innocent victims” in the main. Anders Breivik is as sane as the next man. …

This was an act of war and he considers himself a soldier. In different times, as in WW II, he would be called a hero.

The people he killed were the children of those who had betrayed him and his fellow norwegians. I would put forward the opinion that the political leaders are responsible for the war on men and the destruction of the families of men. What could be more “an eye for an eye” than to kill the children of those who were so willing to destroy mens families and destroy the homeland of men?

In killing children of those who are betraying men? He is sending a very clear message.

“You may think you are protected by your police and your security…..but we can find your children…and you can not protect them except by locking them into a secure area.”

He then went on to make what I think can only be called a veiled threat towards Predident Obama’s daughters; I won’t repeat it here.

Then back to the “innocent children” remark:

These “innocent victims” of whom you speak are the children of those who are criminals. And since Anders Breivik could not get to the REAL criminals he went after the children. Is that such a bad idea? Are they not legitimate targets if the primary targets can not be reached?

This also received multiple upvotes from The Spearhead crowd, and a much smaller number of downvotes. [UPDATE: The post has now started attracting downvotes, but the upvotes still outnumber them considerably.]

Yes, it is truly strange that anyone could possibly associate the MRM with violence in any way.

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zombie rotten mcdonald

ZRM, obviously you’re just gonna need to step up your shambling to a rapid lurching. Otherwise Sharculese is going to continue to ninja you.

I had already been all faster than the Sadly, No commentariat, and of course, stealing jokes from VS is a sport amongst certain blogs, but obviously the frequenters of manboobz are even quicker. Or less alcohol and drug laden.

zombie rotten mcdonald

Why… does such a thing exist?

see next thread, kirby.

I am hoping “I am off to the dog rape thread to feel better about myself” becomes an INternet Tradition.

zombie rotten mcdonald

Why… does such a thing exist?

Also, Rule 34, kirby.

Sharculese
9 years ago

ive literally got a bottle of fine bourbon at my side, so guess again

kirbywarp
kirbywarp
9 years ago

@Zombie:

Noooo! Why would you say such a thing? IT CANNOT BE UNTHUNK!

David K. Meller
David K. Meller
9 years ago

Dear loyal fans:

For all the use of terms of endearment to me in your sundry posts using commie smear terms like “racist”, “white supremacist” and so on, I don’t think that any of you would have the slightest idea of what a racist was even if one stepped up to you in broad daylight–in full Nazi or KKK regalia–and bit you on the nose!

Yes, I am calling you all a bunch of bloody Bolshevik-type COMMUNISTS! You all caused at least ten or twenty times more death in time of peace then even the arch-racist Adolf Hitler caused in time of war! And I am not even comparing casualties inflicted by Mao Zedong’s People’s Republic with an unusually brutal and savage Imperial Japanese occupation in China during WWII.

I won’t even go here into the enormous role that the Stalin government played in maneuvering the senile cripple in the White House to provoke American entry into both the European and Pacific theatres during WWII, but we can, with justification, place every American soldier’s or sailor’s maiming or death in wartime at the bloodstained hands of the “Father of the Peoples” just as much as his Russian victims! Still think that being red is somehow idealistic?

As far as I am concerned where death, human suffering, and mass tragedy are concerned, Communists 1000—-Racists (at their worst) 20, 30 or so.

To the extent that I have any political ideology I am a libertarian, hence my closure, “peace and freedom”. I don’t expect any of you champions of the proletarian vanguard to undertstand this, but if you call me a “racist” or anything like it, I am responding by calling you all murderous, terroristic, barbaric and blood-drinking COMMUNISTS! People who live in glass houses shouldn’t throw stones, and in your cases, even pebbles would be too much.

Still feel like trading insults, Comrades?

I notice that all of this childish name calling and smearing on your part doesn’t help one Moslem get out of Europe–where he doesn’t belong–or enable one Norwegian (or other European man) to keep his home, his family and his business, where he does!

PEACE AND FREEDOM!!
David K. Meller

PS- I stand by my remarks that it is so-called “progressive” and communist people like you, who have obsructed every effort to deal with runaway invasion–“immigration”–of unassimilables who made this tragedy in Norway inevitable, and makes for far worse to come! DKM

shaenon
9 years ago

Can’t these guys just all “go their own way”???

David K. Meller Will You Please Go Now!

The time has come
The time is now
Just go
Go.
Go!
I don’t care how.

You can go to the East
Where chicks act right.
You can go to the North
Where dudes are white.
You can go on foot.
You can go on your knees.
You can go by douchecanoe if you please.

We Ameriskanks
And feminist cows
Say, “David K. Meller,
Will you please go now!”

PEACE AND FREEDOM!

Ami Angelwings
9 years ago

I’m a communist? xD It’s funny that he doesn’t even know my political beliefs (which would surprise ppl xD ) but he knows that :3

Also did he just compare me to 2 groups that almost wiped out my family? xD

Ami Angelwings
9 years ago

oh wait he’s said he’s NOT comparing us.. even tho he brought them up for random reasons xD

Victoria von Syrus
Victoria von Syrus
9 years ago

Here’s a thought:

Breivik blamed feminism for Norway’s declining birthrate of ‘desirable’ babies.

Breivik wanted to fix this, so that ‘pure’ Norwegians would stop being outbred by the Scary Muslims.

Breivik thought the best way to do this was to kill Norwegians.

Better idea: Bring feminism to the communities of Scary Muslim Immigrants. Birthrate falls amongst Muslims, becomes equal with the rate of Norwegians. Standard of living rises.

Everyone wins!! Peace and freedom for all!!

Sharculese
9 years ago

yo dkm, im actually from the deep south, so ive got a pretty good idea what a racist looks like.

(hint: he looks like you. sorry bro)

speedlines
speedlines
9 years ago

Pass the blood, I’m getting thirsty here.

Ami Angelwings
9 years ago

I like how our trolls are so adaptive. xD In other times they have been misogynists… now they’re racists, or worried about the extinction of white ppl o_O if a blog post moved the discussion to like disabled issues, i’m sure they’d prove themselves v skilled at ablism arguments as well xD

Sharculese
9 years ago

To the extent that I have any political ideology I am a libertarian, hence my closure, “peace and freedom”. I don’t expect any of you champions of the proletarian vanguard to undertstand this, but if you call me a “racist” or anything like it, I am responding by calling you all murderous, terroristic, barbaric and blood-drinking COMMUNISTS!

hey, it’s okay, i went through my teenage libertarian phase, too, so i totally know what youre feeling, right down the the incoherent demonization of anyone to your left. it’s gonna be okay, don’t worry.

People who live in glass houses shouldn’t throw stones, and in your cases, even pebbles would be too much.

you, um, should get over your poetry writing phase, tho

kirbywarp
kirbywarp
9 years ago

@DKM:

“Still feel like trading insults, Comrades?”

You do realize that for insults to be effective… they actually have to make sense. Calling us communists doesn’t have the same “oomph” it use to back when everyone was hyped up on the red scare. Calling us killers because we must be communists, and other communists have killed people… heh. I can play that game.

You know the conflicts between different denominations of muslims? The genocide in Darfur? The many lynchings in the US (in the past)? Probably a lot of conflict through the ages, including any white europeans storming through indiginous populations to make way for a “proper society.” All a product of one race against another. So yeah… you are a mass-murdering, genocidal, hate-mongering imperialist. Because you are racist.

“I notice that all of this childish name calling and smearing on your part doesn’t help one Moslem get out of Europe–where he doesn’t belong–or enable one Norwegian (or other European man) to keep his home, his family and his business, where he does!”

Oh yeah. I’m sure everyone here is interested in making sure that white europeans can keep all those dirty brown people out of our pure homelands. Oh wait… never mind. That’s just you. You can’t insult us by saying we haven’t yet done anything to secure Caucasians as the dominant race.

So far I’m just seeing a lot of fail here.

And though the irony may be lost on you, I wish you and all people of this earth the phrase you so casually toss out when you’ve said the exact opposite just words before.

PEACE AND FREEDOM!!!!!
Kirby M. Warp

zombie rotten mcdonald

Still feel like trading insults, Comrades?

Absolutely, you tin-thieving shitwhistle.

zombie rotten mcdonald

I stand by my remarks that it is so-called “progressive” and communist people like you, who have obsructed every effort to deal with runaway invasion–”immigration”–of unassimilables who made this tragedy in Norway inevitable, and makes for far worse to come! DKM

since this is only an apparent problem seen by racist twit-nozzles like you, it demonstrates your racism quite clearly, as well as your inability to understand demographics and statistic.

Sharculese
9 years ago

y’know, as a jew, one of the few things i want is for successive waves of immigrants into europe to not face the suspicion, violence and persecution that my people faced. i dont think thats so unreasonable.

VoiP
VoiP
9 years ago

Marc:
So his goals are not bad, just his measures? Then we can finally agree.

His goals are also bad. And, since culture has no inherent relationship to biological inheritance, silly.

But the Roman Empire for example was brought down by mass immigration.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decline_of_the_Roman_Empire
No it wasn’t. Nobody’s sure what brought it down, or even if “brought down” is an appropriate description.

DKM:
I don’t expect any of you champions of the proletarian vanguard to undertstand this, but if you call me a “racist” or anything like it, I am responding by calling you all murderous, terroristic, barbaric and blood-drinking COMMUNISTS!

Is anyone else just tickled by all this froth-mongering? Like, DKM can’t do anything to us, he’s over there on the Internet and I’m over here, also on the internet, but he’s just…so…STEAMED. It’s like I’m picking up a fuzzy little kitten who won’t stop hissing at me, even though her claws are like tiny fish bones. ZOMG ADORBS! Also, the kitten is racist.

Ami
Also did he just compare me to 2 groups that almost wiped out my family? xD

While comparing me to a group that tried to wipe out my religion, so…two for two, I guess.

kirbywarp
kirbywarp
9 years ago

@VoiP:

“It’s like I’m picking up a fuzzy little kitten who won’t stop hissing at me, even though her claws are like tiny fish bones. ZOMG ADORBS! Also, the kitten is racist.”

At least its better than this puppy.

I love this comic.

Sharculese
9 years ago

We can’t bust heads like we used to, but we have our ways. One trick is to tell ’em stories that don’t go anywhere – like the time I caught the ferry over to Munich. I needed a new steel toe for my jackboot, so, I decided to go to Morganville, which is what they called Munich in those days. So I tied an jew’s head to my belt, which was the style at the time. Now, to take the ferry cost a nickel, and in those days, nickels had pictures of fasces on ’em. Give me five sticks for a quarter, you’d say.

Now where were we? Oh yeah: the important thing was I had an jew’s head on my belt, which was the style at the time. They didn’t have negro heads because of the war. The only thing you could get was jew heads…

Ami Angelwings
9 years ago

I don’t expect any of you champions of the proletarian vanguard to undertstand this, but if you call me a “racist” or anything like it, I am responding by calling you all murderous, terroristic, barbaric and blood-drinking COMMUNISTS!

Um.. ok xD

Racist >_>

xD

PosterformerlyknownasElizabeth
PosterformerlyknownasElizabeth
9 years ago

For all the use of terms of endearment to me in your sundry posts using commie smear terms like “racist”, “white supremacist” and so on, I don’t think that any of you would have the slightest idea of what a racist was even if one stepped up to you in broad daylight–in full Nazi or KKK regalia–and bit you on the nose!
DKM

I live in Arizona so you know what? I have met plenty of racists. Including King Pearce.

kirbywarp
kirbywarp
9 years ago

@Ami:

Here’s the thing.. He either thinks that being racist is equivalent to being murderous, terroristic, barbaric, cannibalistic, and supportive of a government-less economy based on trust and redistribution of resources…

or he’s trying to bring a gun to a knife fight. A gun with one bullet. Made out of pillows.

Is the idea so offensive to him, despite the fact that he wishes to keep muslims out of European cities, and thinks if minorities ever got a hold of US government, it would collapse and turn into a third world country… you know, judging these groups in one way or another based on their race? Does he read his own writing?

bhacssylan
bhacssylan
9 years ago

“Is anyone else just tickled by all this froth-mongering? Like, DKM can’t do anything to us, he’s over there on the Internet and I’m over here, also on the internet, but he’s just…so…STEAMED. It’s like I’m picking up a fuzzy little kitten who won’t stop hissing at me, even though her claws are like tiny fish bones. ZOMG ADORBS! Also, the kitten is racist. ”

Wait, so DKM is our pet? I’m not sure if that’s adorable or hideous.

Also, DKM, i think you came to the wrong place if you think that we don’t like the trade insults here, your racist piece of shit that would give Azathoth a run for his money on incoherent madness.

Woo, that felt good.

PosterformerlyknownasElizabeth
PosterformerlyknownasElizabeth
9 years ago

Also this does not make sense:

I notice that all of this childish name calling and smearing on your part doesn’t help one Moslem get out of Europe–where he doesn’t belong–or enable one Norwegian (or other European man) to keep his home, his family and his business, where he does!…PS- I stand by my remarks that it is so-called “progressive” and communist people like you, who have obsructed every effort to deal with runaway invasion–”immigration”–of unassimilables who made this tragedy in Norway inevitable, and makes for far worse to come! DKM

You know why? Because saying someone does not belong is excluding the person and making it impossible for them to assimilate. It is not even giving them a chance-you are making an assumption that they cannot merge with your society based on nothing at all. And in the case of the way that immigrants are treated it is like saying “white guys cannot jump” breaking the white guy’s legs then saying “see, I told you white guys cannot jump.”

zombie rotten mcdonald

As far as trading insults go, I suspect I get far more amusement out of calling Meller a “chicken Speckled jizzmonster” than he does calling anyone here a “communist”.

zombie rotten mcdonald

As I said on a prior thread, I suspect the biggest problem guys like DKM have is that as various ethnic groups move around, mix into the dominant group, there’s all kinds of cross-race-banging going on, diluting the purity of the Supreme Race…

Meanwhile, the normal people go one, integrating, increasing tolerance and struggling toward more egalitarian societies, imperfect as they may be. Leaving sad old bitter clingers like DKM to write long, incoherent, repulsive manifestos….

Sharculese
9 years ago

@pfkElizabeth- there’s an explanation for that: dkm is a racist. he doesn’t think brown people belong in europe because he is a huge fucking racist.

zombie rotten mcdonald

Also amusing, and timely:

Sadly, No takes wet noodles to another poor aggrieved white guy:

http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/35374.html

Marc
Marc
9 years ago

@zombie rotten mcdonald

White Norwegians are not even in the remotest danger of being eradicate, and so what if they were?

They will become extinct if the birth rate doesn’t go up, that’s how I put it.

Humans are a single species. different strains of those species may change over time, mixing the colors (to steal a song title from Iggy) ad it is still the same species. PJ O’Rourke said something along the lines of “there is less genetic difference between the riches WASP on wall Street and a tribesman in Uganda than there is between a collie and a shepherd.

First of all, there is a difference in how they look, this is, though it’s superficial, important to some people. There are noticeable differences even between European peoples, though more just in the face and the complexion.
Then there are even clear differences in the body if you look at ethnic groups that geographically separated for a long time. For example the human skeleton is enough for forensic doctors to see if the skeleton belonged to a White, Black or Asian person.

The hot topic are of course mental differences.

There’s already overwhelming evidence that many mental illnesses have an genetic component. Schizophrenic people mostly are not able to make a good career, yet they are not a victim of discrimination. They are a victim of their DNA that presupposes them to schizophrenia which interferes with normal functioning. The difference in the DNA is minimal, the outcome is huge. So the argument of PJ O’Rourke is really silly.

True, it is neither proven that average differences of certain mental characteristics exist nor that they don’t exist. But I think the existence of such average group differences is not implausible. There are already many features, like body height, that have a variation in every ethnic group and average differences between different ethnic groups.

And I discovered this in the most direct fashion possible: by sleeping around all over the world.”

While I would say that nearly all ethnic groups have good looking ones, I find it a bit odd, that he didn’t notice a difference or has a preference. Also, and I really don’t want to insult them, and hope that this is not seen as racist, I find Australian Aborigines not very attractive, the large supraorbital ridges just look weird to me.

The difference between white Norwegians and Middle Eastern Muslims is totally fabricated by people who decided that it s the best way to preserve their privilege.

Can this be proven, rigorously proven? I doubt it.

@Ami Angelwings
I like how our trolls are so adaptive. xD In other times they have been misogynists…

I think, the trolls will plague you as long as you’re so stubborn to use the word “troll” like old media. Btw, I saw your avatar in the Manboobz forum… how old are you??

kirbywarp
kirbywarp
9 years ago

@Marc:

“True, it is neither proven that average differences of certain mental characteristics exist nor that they don’t exist. But I think the existence of such average group differences is not implausible.”

“Can this be proven, rigorously proven? I doubt it.”

So on the one hand, the very fact that differences may exist between races is good enough grounds for treating them seperately… But any attempts at showing equality must be “rigorously proven…”

Rrrrrriiiight….

I’m gonna go hang out with people who treat other people based on things other than who their parents were. Have fun with you white power friends.

zombie rotten mcdonald

They will become extinct if the birth rate doesn’t go up, that’s how I put it.

no, they won’t, I don’t care how you put it. And so what if they did? we’re still all humans, it is still one fricking species. It came from one central strain, and skin color is a purely cosmetic difference that has nothing to do with the species.

White folks, brown folks, yellow folks, red folks. All just folks. Nothing inherently good or bad in any of them, and the intermingling of the races helps break down barriers.

The hot topic are of course mental differences.

Oh bite me you unrepentant racist. what really bothers you is dick size, isn’t it?

bhacssylan
bhacssylan
9 years ago

“There’s already overwhelming evidence that many mental illnesses have an genetic component. Schizophrenic people mostly are not able to make a good career, yet they are not a victim of discrimination. They are a victim of their DNA that presupposes them to schizophrenia which interferes with normal functioning. The difference in the DNA is minimal, the outcome is huge. So the argument of PJ O’Rourke is really silly.”

Of course, Marc is positing harmful effects that have never been shown or even hinted, while ignoring the fact that interracial mixing has been shown to have several benefits, such as more robust immune systems.

zombie rotten mcdonald

While I would say that nearly all ethnic groups have good looking ones, I find it a bit odd, that he didn’t notice a difference or has a preference. Also, and I really don’t want to insult them, and hope that this is not seen as racist, I find Australian Aborigines not very attractive, the large supraorbital ridges just look weird to me.

this is just appallingly, amazingly repulsive. How do you ever feel qualified to criticize who another person feels attracted to? I mean what YOU are attracted to is one thing, and it is obvious that you are so twisted that you could never consider a cross-racial liaison, but that’s your prerogative and your loss. But O’Rourke, for all his asshole rich white guy conservative postures, still had enough of a healthy libido to go out and sleep around, around the world; I actually was surprised, although I suspect much of his talk is just that.

You know, it’s not that there isn’t a difference, and as you noted, even amongst the somewhat arbitrary racial lines, individual variation actually makes most of those differences moot; but it’s that you could actually see the attractiveness of people from all kinds of races and backgrounds if you weren’t such a racist twit.

darksidecat
9 years ago

Perhaps I would be more offended by DKMs accusations of communism if he actually knew anything about communism, history, or reality. Fucking anarchist nationalists, what is a person to do with those? Seriously, I am no Leninist by a long shot, but even I give Lenin more credit than DKMs asinine misreadings. Also, the conspiracy theory bit about FDR being a Stalinist puppet was pretty hilarious (as is the sudden conflation of all communists with Stalinists, all Marxists with communists, all communists with Leninists, all Leninists with Stalinists, etc.). Norman Thomas, William Foster, Verne L. Reynolds, and Earl Browder were just campaigning to distract folks from the real socialist takeover of Washington, lol. Repeat accusations by FDRs running mate that Hoover was a socialist were to throw people off of the scent as well. The notorious infighting of leftists is nothing more than a cover for our grand and masterfully coordinated international conspiracies.

I’m with sharculese and the DKM is a huge fucking racist thing. I am actually from an area with an operating Klan branch, DKM. Your ideas and their ideas match up just fine. That is because you are a huge fucking racist.

zombie rotten mcdonald

I think, the trolls will plague you as long as you’re so stubborn to use the word “troll” like old media. Btw,

the trolls will plague as long as people engage, that is the pattern. I don’t mind engaging, but there is a reason that the motto at several websites with open comment policies is “Don’t Feed The Troll” (DFTT)

zombie rotten mcdonald

Can this be proven, rigorously proven? I doubt it.

no, but it is a hella lot more demonstrable than this:

They will become extinct if the birth rate doesn’t go up, that’s how I put it.

Marc
Marc
9 years ago

So on the one hand, the very fact that differences may exist between races is good enough grounds for treating them seperately… But any attempts at showing equality must be “rigorously proven…”

Rrrrrriiiight….

1. It’s a priori more plausible that there are average differences, because that’s already the case with many properties that vary between humans, like height, weight or facial characteristics.

2. We shouldn’t make dangerous experiments before we know that. If we once find out that there aren’t any differences, there’s no justification for separation. I’m not a dogmatic, I would never close my eyes to scientific evidence.
But for now, the burden of proof is on you, you say that peoples fears are unreasonable.

I’m gonna go hang out with people who treat other people based on things other than who their parents were. Have fun with you white power friends.

Standard emotional response.

no, they won’t, I don’t care how you put it.

If the birth rate stays under sustainability there will be less Norwegians every generation, that’s simply a fact.

Bee
Bee
9 years ago

“They will become extinct if the birth rate doesn’t go up, that’s how I put it.”

Possibly. Over a very long period of time. With many, many opportunities to change the trajectory and/or pass along Norwegian culture, language, history, etc. It’s certainly not immanent in any way, nor certain, nor even likely. Fuck, you know what’s a more likely way for all ethnic Norwegians to be wiped off the face of the earth? Almost anything. War. Global warming. Pollution. Illness. Thousands of delusional murderers let loose on island camps.

I actually do think it’s valuable to see cultures/people continue and not let them dwindle away. That does happen, you know — usually with poor indigenous peoples. It’s not even close to happening to Norwegians.

Not that you’re being serious anyway. Of course you’re just being shocking, what with your hilarious pro-murder stance! You so silly, Marc.

redlocker
9 years ago

Oh, the lengths that Marc will go…

zombie rotten mcdonald

If the birth rate stays under sustainability there will be less Norwegians every generation, that’s simply a fact.

OK< here's the fact:

Muslims, and every other immigrant person, become Norwegians WHEN THEY OFFICIALLY IMMiGRATE. So when they reproduce, the offspring is in fact, Norwegian.

So the only thing you're arguing about is that Norwegians of one skin color are reproducing at a rate different than Norwegians of a different skin color.

You have already conceded that this is, at best, a superficial difference. So I will concede that yes, some people may fear this.

But here; how is that going to destroy Norwegians, who are not a race by any definition of the term? Only if you define "Norwegian" as "completely caucasoid with no diluting brown person blood"

How is that not racist? As well as MONUMENTALLY insulting to Norwegians of non-white heritage.

zombie rotten mcdonald

Standard emotional response.

So what? emotional responses can be valid.

You are arguing such transparent, wordy bullshit trying to obfuscate and filibuster the issue that I don’t blame anybody for bailing.

As I said upthread, sometimes, you have to go to the dog rape thread to feel clean again.

Myself, I am happy to throw this racist asshole back int the mud again and again, cuz yanno Imma zombie.

kirbywarp
kirbywarp
9 years ago

@Marc:

Let’s try this one more time.

“1. It’s a priori more plausible that there are average differences, because that’s already the case with many properties that vary between humans, like height, weight or facial characteristics.

2. We shouldn’t make dangerous experiments before we know that. If we once find out that there aren’t any differences, there’s no justification for separation. I’m not a dogmatic, I would never close my eyes to scientific evidence.
But for now, the burden of proof is on you, you say that peoples fears are unreasonable.”

It is infinitely more immoral to treat someone as less than what they deserve, than to give them more credit then they warrant.

In other words, if you treat all black people a certain way because they are black, you have done much more harm than if you treat each black person based on their actual personalities/abilities rather than their skin color. If you are wrong, and black people are not as intelligent (for instance), you’ve done nothing except give a person a chance to prove themselves on their own right. If you are correct, and there is no significant difference between races, you’ve just prevented yourself from being prejudiced against a person who does not deserve it.

Treating people on their merits rather than your expectations is universally a good thing, no matter what the reality is, and we don’t need to know the reality for it to be good. Treating people based on their looks (be it race, gender, etc.) runs the risk of treating someone unfairly (at best) or unjustly (at worst).

Your call Marc. Assume differences and risk being a bigot, or assume equality and risk giving individuals more credit than they might deserve. I know which one I’m going for.

Bee
Bee
9 years ago

Y’know, Zombie? Pretty much every thread is a dog rape thread for me in my house. I should just live-blog the pugs for further cleansing action.

zombie rotten mcdonald

hell, Bee, you could probably clean up if you made it a pay site.

Ami Angelwings
9 years ago

I apparently have a sekrit admirer xD

So trolls show up cuz we use the word troll? xD

How old do you think I am Marc? xD (is that important? o_O How old is Marc? His avatar looks… blue… o_o xD )

I enjoy adaptive trolls :3 Like Marc’s doing a pretty good job of now being a racist (he’s a racist troll! *GASP* now he’s rly upset! XD ) now :]

This whole thing reminds me of the hue and cry in the GTA about various suburbs of Toronto becoming more and more “ethnic’ xD Like Markham being 50% Chinese and growing… or Brampton having a lot of East Indians.. and I remember a radio call in show where the host was talking about how we were destroying everything, how we shop at Wal-Mart (o_O) and how he was at a Wal-Mart and there were all these East Indians there and “you wish the British would just come and civilize the place” (which was… rly terrible given.. y’know history -_-) and callers saying “you need to shop at these places to avoid “the parasites” ) >_> and it’s like… they’re just SHOPPING, and it’s like OMFG NON WHITE PPL ARE EVERYWHERE! xD

all this handwringing and fear and talk of “Norwegians” to mean WHITE Norwegians, and that they’re going to be extinct and etc etc, reminds me a lot of that XD

zombie rotten mcdonald

pugs? Do they start to smell like Fritos if you haven’t given them a bath?

zombie rotten mcdonald

How old do you think I am Marc?

Oooo, can I play? I think you are…. 68!!

I enjoy adaptive trolls

This is funny, because professionally I do renovation and change of use for old buildings, so I enjoy Adaptive Reuse! We almost always clean the trolls out in the early phases of the projects, though.

about various suburbs of Toronto becoming more and more “ethnic’

WHAT? You mean they don’t like Rush anymore?

nd it’s like… they’re just SHOPPING, and it’s like OMFG NON WHITE PPL ARE EVERYWHERE! x

That’s appalling and hilarious. Cuz, what, non-whites are not supposed to SHOP?!?!?