Some in the manosphere have been quick to label mass murderer Anders Breivik a “madman,” trying their best to pretend that his noxious misogynist ideology bears no resemblance to their own. Others, while endorsing at least some of his ideas, have distanced themselves from his actions.
As for MRA loose cannon Peter-Andrew: Nolan(c), well, I’ll just let him explain himself. In a comment on The Spearhead, which naturally earned him multiple upvotes from the assembled mob, the man with the strangely punctuated name offered this take [LINK FIXED] on the killer:
Anders Breivik sees himself as a soldier who is fighting for a worthy cause. That cause being his country. Women and leftists then make him out to be “insane” and are looking for “who is to blame”. Well they might start looking in the mirror. The most pervasive element of western civilization today is its hatred of men and all things male. There is a particularly strong hatred of fathers and husbands. I know. I used to be a father and a husband. I have never experienced hatred in my life as vehement as by women in divorce.
And then the justifications began:
It is only natural and normal that some men decide to take matters into their own hands at all the hatred spewed at them and their marginalization. Men often see that some things are worth fighting for. Men often then take action to fight for what they believe in.
Anders Breivik is not crazy. He’s as rational as the next man. He sees that his country is being destroyed. He sees that the people responsible for that destruction are the left of politics. And he would be correct. He took action to stop what he believes is the destruction of his country.
Followed by a smug told-you-so:
I have been telling women for three years now that hatred of men in general and fathers in particular is going to see men killing a lot of women and children. Well? We just saw 76.
Of course, when Nolan refers to “telling women” that angry men will erupt in violence, what he means is “offering guys on The Spearhead specific tips on how exactly to kill innocent people.”
I’m not going to repost the vile suggestions he set forth in a now notorious Spearhead comment some months back, but I will note that they included handy tips on how to efficiently kill police officers, as well as specific advice on the best ways to take out large numbers of people in “malls … girls schools, police stations, guvment buildings. Full of women and manginas.” He ended the comment with a not-terribly-convincing attempt at plausible deniability:
Do any of you here realise just how easy it is to ANY of these things? I am not recommending them or even condining them. But if a man got into the frame of mind of Sodini and was actually SMART about it. There are PLENTY of ways he could attack women and manginas and their cop protectors with NO CHANCE AT ALL OF BEING CAUGHT as long as he kept his mouth shut.
Naturally, this comment got dozens of upvotes from the Spearhead regulars.
In a followup comment on The Spearhead last night, Nolan mocked another commenter for offering words of sympathy to the “innocent victims.” That last phrase seemed to send him into a fury:
Those who were killed were not “innocent victims” in the main. Anders Breivik is as sane as the next man. …
This was an act of war and he considers himself a soldier. In different times, as in WW II, he would be called a hero.
The people he killed were the children of those who had betrayed him and his fellow norwegians. I would put forward the opinion that the political leaders are responsible for the war on men and the destruction of the families of men. What could be more “an eye for an eye” than to kill the children of those who were so willing to destroy mens families and destroy the homeland of men?
In killing children of those who are betraying men? He is sending a very clear message.
“You may think you are protected by your police and your security…..but we can find your children…and you can not protect them except by locking them into a secure area.”
He then went on to make what I think can only be called a veiled threat towards Predident Obama’s daughters; I won’t repeat it here.
Then back to the “innocent children” remark:
These “innocent victims” of whom you speak are the children of those who are criminals. And since Anders Breivik could not get to the REAL criminals he went after the children. Is that such a bad idea? Are they not legitimate targets if the primary targets can not be reached?
This also received multiple upvotes from The Spearhead crowd, and a much smaller number of downvotes. [UPDATE: The post has now started attracting downvotes, but the upvotes still outnumber them considerably.]
Yes, it is truly strange that anyone could possibly associate the MRM with violence in any way.
ZRM, obviously you’re just gonna need to step up your shambling to a rapid lurching. Otherwise Sharculese is going to continue to ninja you.
I had already been all faster than the Sadly, No commentariat, and of course, stealing jokes from VS is a sport amongst certain blogs, but obviously the frequenters of manboobz are even quicker. Or less alcohol and drug laden.
Why… does such a thing exist?
see next thread, kirby.
I am hoping “I am off to the dog rape thread to feel better about myself” becomes an INternet Tradition.
Why… does such a thing exist?
Also, Rule 34, kirby.
ive literally got a bottle of fine bourbon at my side, so guess again
@Zombie:
Noooo! Why would you say such a thing? IT CANNOT BE UNTHUNK!
Dear loyal fans:
For all the use of terms of endearment to me in your sundry posts using commie smear terms like “racist”, “white supremacist” and so on, I don’t think that any of you would have the slightest idea of what a racist was even if one stepped up to you in broad daylight–in full Nazi or KKK regalia–and bit you on the nose!
Yes, I am calling you all a bunch of bloody Bolshevik-type COMMUNISTS! You all caused at least ten or twenty times more death in time of peace then even the arch-racist Adolf Hitler caused in time of war! And I am not even comparing casualties inflicted by Mao Zedong’s People’s Republic with an unusually brutal and savage Imperial Japanese occupation in China during WWII.
I won’t even go here into the enormous role that the Stalin government played in maneuvering the senile cripple in the White House to provoke American entry into both the European and Pacific theatres during WWII, but we can, with justification, place every American soldier’s or sailor’s maiming or death in wartime at the bloodstained hands of the “Father of the Peoples” just as much as his Russian victims! Still think that being red is somehow idealistic?
As far as I am concerned where death, human suffering, and mass tragedy are concerned, Communists 1000—-Racists (at their worst) 20, 30 or so.
To the extent that I have any political ideology I am a libertarian, hence my closure, “peace and freedom”. I don’t expect any of you champions of the proletarian vanguard to undertstand this, but if you call me a “racist” or anything like it, I am responding by calling you all murderous, terroristic, barbaric and blood-drinking COMMUNISTS! People who live in glass houses shouldn’t throw stones, and in your cases, even pebbles would be too much.
Still feel like trading insults, Comrades?
I notice that all of this childish name calling and smearing on your part doesn’t help one Moslem get out of Europe–where he doesn’t belong–or enable one Norwegian (or other European man) to keep his home, his family and his business, where he does!
PEACE AND FREEDOM!!
David K. Meller
PS- I stand by my remarks that it is so-called “progressive” and communist people like you, who have obsructed every effort to deal with runaway invasion–“immigration”–of unassimilables who made this tragedy in Norway inevitable, and makes for far worse to come! DKM
Can’t these guys just all “go their own way”???
David K. Meller Will You Please Go Now!
The time has come
The time is now
Just go
Go.
Go!
I don’t care how.
You can go to the East
Where chicks act right.
You can go to the North
Where dudes are white.
You can go on foot.
You can go on your knees.
You can go by douchecanoe if you please.
We Ameriskanks
And feminist cows
Say, “David K. Meller,
Will you please go now!”
PEACE AND FREEDOM!
I’m a communist? xD It’s funny that he doesn’t even know my political beliefs (which would surprise ppl xD ) but he knows that :3
Also did he just compare me to 2 groups that almost wiped out my family? xD
oh wait he’s said he’s NOT comparing us.. even tho he brought them up for random reasons xD
Here’s a thought:
Breivik blamed feminism for Norway’s declining birthrate of ‘desirable’ babies.
Breivik wanted to fix this, so that ‘pure’ Norwegians would stop being outbred by the Scary Muslims.
Breivik thought the best way to do this was to kill Norwegians.
Better idea: Bring feminism to the communities of Scary Muslim Immigrants. Birthrate falls amongst Muslims, becomes equal with the rate of Norwegians. Standard of living rises.
Everyone wins!! Peace and freedom for all!!
yo dkm, im actually from the deep south, so ive got a pretty good idea what a racist looks like.
(hint: he looks like you. sorry bro)
Pass the blood, I’m getting thirsty here.
I like how our trolls are so adaptive. xD In other times they have been misogynists… now they’re racists, or worried about the extinction of white ppl o_O if a blog post moved the discussion to like disabled issues, i’m sure they’d prove themselves v skilled at ablism arguments as well xD
To the extent that I have any political ideology I am a libertarian, hence my closure, “peace and freedom”. I don’t expect any of you champions of the proletarian vanguard to undertstand this, but if you call me a “racist” or anything like it, I am responding by calling you all murderous, terroristic, barbaric and blood-drinking COMMUNISTS!
hey, it’s okay, i went through my teenage libertarian phase, too, so i totally know what youre feeling, right down the the incoherent demonization of anyone to your left. it’s gonna be okay, don’t worry.
People who live in glass houses shouldn’t throw stones, and in your cases, even pebbles would be too much.
you, um, should get over your poetry writing phase, tho
@DKM:
“Still feel like trading insults, Comrades?”
You do realize that for insults to be effective… they actually have to make sense. Calling us communists doesn’t have the same “oomph” it use to back when everyone was hyped up on the red scare. Calling us killers because we must be communists, and other communists have killed people… heh. I can play that game.
You know the conflicts between different denominations of muslims? The genocide in Darfur? The many lynchings in the US (in the past)? Probably a lot of conflict through the ages, including any white europeans storming through indiginous populations to make way for a “proper society.” All a product of one race against another. So yeah… you are a mass-murdering, genocidal, hate-mongering imperialist. Because you are racist.
“I notice that all of this childish name calling and smearing on your part doesn’t help one Moslem get out of Europe–where he doesn’t belong–or enable one Norwegian (or other European man) to keep his home, his family and his business, where he does!”
Oh yeah. I’m sure everyone here is interested in making sure that white europeans can keep all those dirty brown people out of our pure homelands. Oh wait… never mind. That’s just you. You can’t insult us by saying we haven’t yet done anything to secure Caucasians as the dominant race.
So far I’m just seeing a lot of fail here.
And though the irony may be lost on you, I wish you and all people of this earth the phrase you so casually toss out when you’ve said the exact opposite just words before.
PEACE AND FREEDOM!!!!!
Kirby M. Warp
Still feel like trading insults, Comrades?
Absolutely, you tin-thieving shitwhistle.
I stand by my remarks that it is so-called “progressive” and communist people like you, who have obsructed every effort to deal with runaway invasion–”immigration”–of unassimilables who made this tragedy in Norway inevitable, and makes for far worse to come! DKM
since this is only an apparent problem seen by racist twit-nozzles like you, it demonstrates your racism quite clearly, as well as your inability to understand demographics and statistic.
y’know, as a jew, one of the few things i want is for successive waves of immigrants into europe to not face the suspicion, violence and persecution that my people faced. i dont think thats so unreasonable.
How DKM sees himself:
http://i980.photobucket.com/albums/ae287/cbathrob/braveheart-10431.jpg?t=1311908825
How others see him:
http://i980.photobucket.com/albums/ae287/cbathrob/abe_simpson.gif?t=1311908874
Marc:
So his goals are not bad, just his measures? Then we can finally agree.
His goals are also bad. And, since culture has no inherent relationship to biological inheritance, silly.
But the Roman Empire for example was brought down by mass immigration.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decline_of_the_Roman_Empire
No it wasn’t. Nobody’s sure what brought it down, or even if “brought down” is an appropriate description.
DKM:
I don’t expect any of you champions of the proletarian vanguard to undertstand this, but if you call me a “racist” or anything like it, I am responding by calling you all murderous, terroristic, barbaric and blood-drinking COMMUNISTS!
Is anyone else just tickled by all this froth-mongering? Like, DKM can’t do anything to us, he’s over there on the Internet and I’m over here, also on the internet, but he’s just…so…STEAMED. It’s like I’m picking up a fuzzy little kitten who won’t stop hissing at me, even though her claws are like tiny fish bones. ZOMG ADORBS! Also, the kitten is racist.
Ami
Also did he just compare me to 2 groups that almost wiped out my family? xD
While comparing me to a group that tried to wipe out my religion, so…two for two, I guess.
@VoiP:
“It’s like I’m picking up a fuzzy little kitten who won’t stop hissing at me, even though her claws are like tiny fish bones. ZOMG ADORBS! Also, the kitten is racist.”
At least its better than this puppy.
I love this comic.
I don’t expect any of you champions of the proletarian vanguard to undertstand this, but if you call me a “racist” or anything like it, I am responding by calling you all murderous, terroristic, barbaric and blood-drinking COMMUNISTS!
Um.. ok xD
Racist >_>
xD
For all the use of terms of endearment to me in your sundry posts using commie smear terms like “racist”, “white supremacist” and so on, I don’t think that any of you would have the slightest idea of what a racist was even if one stepped up to you in broad daylight–in full Nazi or KKK regalia–and bit you on the nose!
DKM
I live in Arizona so you know what? I have met plenty of racists. Including King Pearce.
@Ami:
Here’s the thing.. He either thinks that being racist is equivalent to being murderous, terroristic, barbaric, cannibalistic, and supportive of a government-less economy based on trust and redistribution of resources…
or he’s trying to bring a gun to a knife fight. A gun with one bullet. Made out of pillows.
Is the idea so offensive to him, despite the fact that he wishes to keep muslims out of European cities, and thinks if minorities ever got a hold of US government, it would collapse and turn into a third world country… you know, judging these groups in one way or another based on their race? Does he read his own writing?