Norwegian terrorist Anders Behring Breivik, who killed more than 90 people in attacks on Friday, was motivated by a toxic mélange of far-right ideology largely revolving around his intense hatred of Islam. The 1500 page “manifesto” he posted to the internet – what appears to be a grab-bag of his own writing and material cut and pasted from assorted right-wing sites and even the Unabomber’s manifesto – crackles with denunciations of Muslims, “Marxists” and the assorted other bogeymen that haunt right-wing dreams.
And it’s also filled with denunciations of feminism that could easily have come from the posts and comments of Men’s Rights and misogynist “manosphere” blogs like The Spearhead, In Mala Fide, and, well, quite a few other sites I write about regularly on this blog. (Not to mention a few of this blog’s misogynist trolls.) In passage after passage, the ideology is the same, the language is the same, even the specific obsessions are the same – from no-fault divorce to the evils of “Sex and the City.” (Download the entire thing from the links here.)
I haven’t had time to go through the manifesto in great detail yet, but I wanted to share with you some selections from it that I think will strike most readers of this blog as strangely familiar.
The following selections, denouncing, among other things, the “’Sex and the City’ lifestyle,”appear to have been written by Breivik himself:
It’s the destructive and suicidal “Sex and the City” lifestyle (modern feminism, sexual revolution) which we are taught to revere as the truth. In that setting, men are not men anymore, but metro sexual and emotional beings that are there to serve the purpose as a never-criticising soul mate to the new age feminist woman goddess. The perfect matriarchy has now been fulfilled and complete equality has finally been achieved. The fact that mankind will seize to exist within three generations with this type of regime is irrelevant. Long live cultural Marxism! …
Isolated, “sex and the city lifestyle” is relatively harmless, but if you glorify it and ram it down the throat of mainstream society like we see today it becomes a lethal and destructive societal force as we are witnessing which eventually leads to a complete breakdown of moral/ethics, the nuclear family model and a sustainable fertility rate which again is leading us to the extinction of Europeans.
Breivik goes on to rant about STDs and no-fault divorce, before moving on to another favorite obsession of manosphere misogynists, the supposed sexual “capital” of manipulative women:
Females have a significantly higher proportion of erotic capital than males due to biological differences (men have significantly more prevalent sexual urges than females and are thus easily manipulated). The female manipulation of males has been institutionalised during the last decades and is a partial cause of the feminisation of men in Europe. This highly underestimated factor has contributed to the creation and rise of the matriarchal systems which are now dominating Western European countries. …
He also blames women for the spread of what he considers evil “cultural Marxism” and multiculturalism:
Fact: 60-70% of all cultural Marxists/multiculturalists are women. This partly explains why the gradual feminist revolution is directly linked to the implementation of multiculturalist doctrines. These feminist cultural Marxists do not only want more benefits and rights for themselves. They want it all, and have more or less been awarded with everything they could ever dream of achieving. They now have complete matriarchal supremacy domestically and exercise substantial influence in politics. …
Obsessed with the purported danger that Islam will outbreed the West, Breivik offers an assortment of creepy solutions to increase the fertility of Western whites. (It’s not altogether clear to me if these are all his own views, but they certainly are consistent with what he says elsewhere in the manifesto.) After suggesting limiting contraception and banning abortion, Breivik offers this “solution”:
Discourage women in general to strive for full time careers. This will involve certain sexist and discriminating policies but should increase the fertility rate by up to 0,1-0,2 points.
Women should not be encouraged by society/media to take anything above a bachelor’s degree but should not be prevented from taking a master or PhD. Males on the other hand should obviously continue to be encouraged to take higher education – bachelor, master and PhD. …
And then he’s back on his “Sex and the City” hobbyhorse:
Discourage women in general to strive for “sex and the city/Madonna” lifestyles. The mass media are currently actively glorifying/encouraging “sex and the city/Madonna” lifestyles which involves the glorification of casual sex, multiple sex partners and generally an extremely liberal individualistic lifestyle hostile to the traditional nuclear family values. As such, the non-restrictions of the mass media is the main cause for our unsustainable fertility rate of 1,5.
The indirect media/government glorification campaigns through individual artists, various series, movies and media coverage in general should reflect this new shift (no more glorification of “sex and the city lifestyles” or equivalent portrayals. No longer should women be pressured to have equal success regarding their career as males.
Womens “new role” should be actively illustrated and glorified through series, movies and commercials. This will involve significant restrictions in media freedoms and rights. These restrictions and reforms will result in an increased fertility rate of approximately 0,2-0,3 points.
The end result for implementing the above reforms would be an increase in the fertility rate up from 1,5 to approximately 2,1-2,4 which would be sustainable.
However, this will also involve significant restrictions in women’s rights and media rights.
And, like many in the manosphere, he also holds out hope for “artificial wombs,” which would of course reduce the inconvenience of relying on women to cooperate with his plans.
Large chunks of the manifesto consist of cut-and-pasted blog posts from an anonymous far-right Norwegian blogger known as Fjordman, whose now defunct blog can be found here. (According to Andrew Brown in the Guardian article linked to above, Breivik and Fjordman are not the same person.)
Here are some selections from the Fjordman posts that Breivik includes in his manifesto. Again, much of this will seem very familiar to many of you, I am sure.
For all the talk about “girl power” and “women kicking ass” which you see on movies these days, if the men of your “tribe” are too weak or demoralised to protect you, you will be enslaved and crushed by the men from other “tribes” before you can say “Vagina Monologues”. Which means that if you break down men’s masculinity, their willingness and ability to defend themselves and their families, you destroy the country. That’s exactly what Western women have done for the last forty years. ….
The male protective instinct doesn’t take action because Scandinavian women have worked tirelessly to eradicate it, together with everything else that smacks of traditional masculinity. Because of this, feminism has greatly weakened Scandinavia, and perhaps Western civilisation as whole. …
Didn’t feminists always claim that the world would be a better place with women in the driver’s seat, because they wouldn’t sacrifice their own children? Well, isn’t that exactly what they are doing now? Smiling and voting for parties that keep the doors open to Muslim immigration, the same Muslims who will be attacking their children tomorrow? …
Misandry, the hatred of men, isn’t necessarily less prevalent than misogyny, the hatred of women. The difference is that the former is much more socially acceptable.
If all oppression comes from Western men, it becomes logical to try weakening them as much as possible. If you do, a paradise of peace and equality awaits us at the other side of the rainbow. Well congratulations to Western European women. You’ve succeeded in harassing and ridiculing your own sons into suppressing many of their masculine instincts. To your surprise, you didn’t enter a feminist Nirvana, but paved the way for an unfolding Islamic hell. ….
Feminists claim that the reason why women haven’t been as numerous in politics and science as men is due to male oppression of women. Some of this is true. But it is not the whole story. Being male means having to prove something, to achieve something, in a greater way than it does for women. In addition to this, the responsibility for child rearing will always fall more heavily on women than on men. ….
it was in fact the women who started this whole “single is best” culture that now permeates much of the West. Since women initiate most divorces and a divorce can potentially mean financial ruin for a man, it shouldn’t really be too surprising that many men hesitate to get involved at all. … At the same time, women during the past few decades have made it a lot easier to have a girlfriend without getting married. So women make it riskier to get married and easier to stay unmarried, and then they wonder why men “won’t commit?” Maybe too many women didn’t think all this feminism stuff quite through before jumping on the bandwagon? …..
The elaborate welfare state model in Western Europe is frequently labelled as “the nanny state,” but perhaps it could also be named “the husband state.” Why? Well, in a traditional society, the role of men and husbands is to physically protect and financially provide for their women. In our modern society, part of this task has simply been “outsourced” to the state, which helps explain why women in general give a disproportionate support to high taxation and pro-welfare state parties. The state has simply become a substitute husband, upheld by taxation of their ex-husbands. ….
Radical feminism has bred suspicion and hostility, not cooperation. And what’s more, it has no in any way eradicated the basic sexual attraction between feminine women and masculine men. If people do not find this in their own country, they travel to another country or culture to find it, which in our age of globalisation is easier than ever. A striking number of Scandinavian men find their wives in East Asia, Latin America or other nations with a more traditional view of femininity, and a number of women find partners from more conservative countries. …
radical feminism has been one of the most important causes of the current weakness of Western civilisation, both culturally and demographically. Feminists, often with a Marxist world view, have been a crucial component in establishing the suffocating public censorship of Political Correctness in Western nations. They have also severely weakened the Western family structure, and contributed to making the West too soft and self-loathing to deal with aggression from Muslims. …
Well, after two generations of Second Wave Feminism, Ms. Willis and Ms. Beauvoir have had their way: The West has skyrocketing divorce rates and plummeting birth rates, leading to a cultural and demographic vacuum that makes us vulnerable to a take-over by… Islam. And feminists still aren’t satisfied. ….
Feminists claim that women have been victims of men, that men have oppressed women for centuries and that the sexes are equal. Denying this will result in the smears “misogynist” and “male chauvinist pig”. But equalising the sexes has led to a crippling feminisation of Western society … portraying women as oppressed victims and the equals of males is one example of how the pursuit of equality is being used to destroy our society and undermine – and therefore be in conflict with – Mother nature. ….
I’ll continue going through the manifesto to see what else I can find. If any of you decide to do the same thing, and find other selections in it that you find telling, please post them in the comments below.
I would also like to find specific writings on manosphere blogs – posts or comments – that directly parallel these selections from Breivik’s manifesto. If any of you are willing to help, again, please post your findings in the comments below, along with URLs to the sources of the manosphere quotes.
Ideas have consequences. Vile, hateful ideas have vile, hateful consequences.
For more on Breivik’s misogyny, see this post on Red Light Politics.
PZ Myers has more on Breivik’s noxious ideology, including his hatred of atheists, here.
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Put butter on the blog!
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*tentatively licking screen*
Always put butter.
*gets out her locally made fresh butter and smears it all over the bread, the blog and Nobby*
Hey, people, nice thread! It’s sooo long… lol XD
Hey, I found this by randomly clicking on a sidebar link on Yohami’s blog! I di read a few posts, too… shiver.
Johnny Milfquest @@MilfQuest
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Is it just me or is Avril Lavigne as hot as balls?
July 21 2011 01:26 am
yohami
I liked her a lot when she was 15 years old
SO, I feel nauseous… what do you all think? Me, I think the guy is a fucking slimeball. Yep, bad news all the way. Yow.
Hey, it works, bee! The butter brought Doctress Julia back!
@Doctress Julia,
I was arguing with him over on that Hooking Up Smart thread a while back. Yes, he’s a slimeball.
Holy shit, I wish I had some way of detecting these kinds of dudes on sight, so I could never have to be around such extreme toxicness. If only there was a way… in the meantime, I always watch my back. These fuckers are everywhere.
Butter, it is good, I smell it… :9
WOW, according to you article I guess you think that all people of Islam are one Mohammed joke away from flying two planes into a building. MORON
Show we quotes that advocate violence that moderate Muslims agree with, and you have a point. Until then, you are yet again just a little troll making a false analogy.
So, some people at mensrights.reddit.com approved of a few words copied out of a 1500 page manifesto, divorced from its source, and submitted with a troll account.
And the credits to the movie “I Shot Andy Worhol” praises SCUM manifesto as a ‘feminist classic’
Breiviks has become popular with anyone who has an agenda. Christian lobbies are trying to shake up the R18+ debate in Australia due to the fact he played videogames. I find your arguments similar to that of the lobbyists: lacking in substance and logic and making the amateur mistake of believing that correlation is equal to causation.
What a disgrace this article is. Way to denigrate a worthy cause like mens rights activism and link it to extremism. You on the left love to blow things up like this to drive a political agenda, dont you?
Nowhere have we argued that this correlation was equal to causation – merely that violent rhetoric paves the way for this kind of thinking. MRAs did not make this guy do anything, he wasn’t an MRA – but he does share some of the same violent, racist and misogynist views, which, I would argue, indicates that there is perhaps a problem with those views. And, the thing is, the dehumanising approaches to groups of people seen in the MRM and in this manifesto do, in a twisted way, justify killing lots of people. This is problematic.
@Gregs, bob, z, youreanembarrasment:
So… I take it you don’t agree with this guy’s violent rhetoric, don’t approve of his actions, aren’t justifying his actions in any way, etc?
I take it you also agree that the MRM shouldn’t be using violent rhetoric because its simply the wrong thing to do, not just because it can be misappropriated by crazy people to justify actual violence?
In other words, do you think the guy was a villain or a martyr?
(also what lyn said, we don’t say he’s an MRA, we say that his rhetoric meshes a little too well with what MRAs have grown comfortable saying over the years. It seems as though some MRAs are already starting to praise his actions. I find this dispicable. Do you?)
David, I defy you to find me one prominent MRA, just ONE, who approves of what this sick man did.
@kirbywarp I have just two words for you: Valerie. Solanas.
The storm last night overloaded a lot of stuff in my house incl my router -_- I’ve been spending all day fixing everything -_- That’s why I vanished xD I love mr. manipulative pants and his idea that it’s not what you say, it’s how you say it.. it allows him to frame everything that it MUST be his wording, but he’s right and it’s just about tricking/seducing/framing the msg/ etc to get ppl to get it xD And the only difference between me and him are my smileys and me being female. xD Nothing about substance or that I dun feel the need to change who I am or how I talk xD I also like the little divisive thing at the end “Lyn you’re awesome, not like those losers…” more seduction xD
So that’s 9 days now… (for the bet xD ) I wonder how ill he’ll be today xD
“Way to denigrate a worthy cause like mens rights activism and LINK IT TO EXTREMISM.”
I think Breivik did that all by himself.
Phil, I never claimed that MRAs supported Breivik’s actions; I certainly haven’t run across any who have (although there were a small number of MRAs who spoke approvingly of antifeminist mass murderers like Sodini and Lepine). What I am saying is that many MRAs share much of Breivik’s misogynistic ideology. That’s pretty much undeniable.
This guy doesn’t like you http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oXJXuySXckw
~I’m still waiting for what’s “natural” for me? xD~
AmiAngelwings, I’m pretty sure that you’re SUPERnatural. What with being a fairy goddess and all.
Breivik was also anti-Nazi – are you anti-Nazi? Then you are the same as him; you share an ideology.
He was a Zionist – are you a Zionist? If so, then you share an ideology with the killer.
He also states that he is NOT a religious Christian (see his video at 10:54), and he insults Christianity:
He describes religious Christians as ‘fundamentalists’. He says that logic and evidence must always take precedence over Biblical texts. Then he goes on to say that Christianity was the fourth biggest killer in Europe – until the enlightenment. (In other words when people chose logic over the Bible).
So; how would you describe his attitude – does it sound similar to your own?
If so, then you are the same as him.
You have the same ideology
Perhaps his actions were inspired by your blog, or one very similar to it.
So if his mother had never had sex, he wouldn’t have murdered 92 people.
You know… that’s absolutely true.
Nonsense, I wrote that both his mother and sister got STDs with serious consequences and that this might be the reason why he is so opposed to liberal morality why do you have to distort so much?
I never claimed that this was the sole reason behind his acts. There are other crucial things like that he lost his friends to drugs or the disillusionment with his life.
I don’t want to defend him like “when you see how he had to suffer, it’s normal that he did it”. Nonsense. I just say that you can somewhat understand him, he’s not like Loughner who absolutely doesn’t make any sense.
It’s like a devout Christian whose child dies and is shaken in his faith. Though he always knew about the argument of evil to prove the nonexistence of God it didn’t reach him, but now that he himself is affected, it’s totally different.
There are also some positive things he (well, he quotes Fjordman) says about feminism:
“Daniel Pipes keeps saying that the answer to radical Islam is moderate Islam. There may not be any such thing as a moderate Islam, but there just might be a moderate feminism, and a mature masculinity to match it. […] Many men will find it offensive to hear that Islamic violence and honour killings have anything to do with masculinity, but it does.
Islam is a compressed version of all the darkest aspects of masculinity. We should reject it. Men, too, lose their freedom to think and say what they want in Islam, not just women.
However, even a moderate version of feminism could prove lethal to Islam. Islam survives on the extreme subjugation of women. Deprived of this, it will suffocate and die.” (page 352 of his manifesto, PDF version).
I am not surprised that our MRA-sympathizing visitors are trying to minimize both the gravity of his actions and the similarity of his beliefs to those of many in the MRM…
Which MRAs?
And when someone tries to minimize the gravity of his action, well, of course it was the worst shooting spree in the history of mankind and most of the victims were young people with their whole lives ahead of them. But still, if you just look at some of the terrorist attacks of extremist Muslims, just the ones in July, it puts his acts in perspective:
Taji (Iraq), 7/5: 35 dead
Kamdesh (Afghanistan), 7/6: 38 dead
Mumbai (India), 7/3: 20
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5hWaPfew6EDg6wJE06mQ15MJ6Y-rA?docId=10c0bb08d4c74eb4ab47124b3c84c7d5
http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5jiCEdyivl9yvtWf7_EY1gRysxvUQ?docId=CNG.6a6eaf80e58f262f2ceb8e8e9db091ec.901
http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5iNKJQLv7pOOpRETywsQp0drAMicQ?docId=CNG.400d0f07f2d2e0899ef48311491aa56c.591
hey, haven’t there been a dozen or so rants on MRM sites predicting violence if MRA’s don’t get their way? So why is it so unlikely that Breiviks was influenced by MRM beliefs?
Why is it unlikely that when in the Quran there are multiple verses promoting violence against unbelievers, that terrorist were influenced by this?
http://www.usc.edu/schools/college/crcc/engagement/resources/texts/muslim/quran/003.qmt.html#003.151
Also, and that’s what I mean with intelligent, Breivik is not totally lacking critical thinking skills like Loughner… though he surely seems narcissistic and egomaniacal.
For example Breivik rejects conspiracy theories like those surrounding 9/11 (ok, that makes sense if he doesn’t like Muslims) and he says that the Nazi-claims, that most European governments are infiltrated by Zionists are crazy.
Also remember: He planned it for many years. The preparations took years. I don’t know for how long there are some MRM sites
And also, though perhaps I don’t know enough about MRAs, I think there are points that many MRAs would disagree strongly. Aren’t there many of them who complain about how men were sent to wars or about chivalry? Well, Breivik has no problem with that and he is for chivalry, too.
Breivik is the inevitable outcome of this western mangina society…You can expect more, VERY SOON