Norwegian terrorist Anders Behring Breivik, who killed more than 90 people in attacks on Friday, was motivated by a toxic mélange of far-right ideology largely revolving around his intense hatred of Islam. The 1500 page “manifesto” he posted to the internet – what appears to be a grab-bag of his own writing and material cut and pasted from assorted right-wing sites and even the Unabomber’s manifesto – crackles with denunciations of Muslims, “Marxists” and the assorted other bogeymen that haunt right-wing dreams.
And it’s also filled with denunciations of feminism that could easily have come from the posts and comments of Men’s Rights and misogynist “manosphere” blogs like The Spearhead, In Mala Fide, and, well, quite a few other sites I write about regularly on this blog. (Not to mention a few of this blog’s misogynist trolls.) In passage after passage, the ideology is the same, the language is the same, even the specific obsessions are the same – from no-fault divorce to the evils of “Sex and the City.” (Download the entire thing from the links here.)
I haven’t had time to go through the manifesto in great detail yet, but I wanted to share with you some selections from it that I think will strike most readers of this blog as strangely familiar.
The following selections, denouncing, among other things, the “’Sex and the City’ lifestyle,”appear to have been written by Breivik himself:
It’s the destructive and suicidal “Sex and the City” lifestyle (modern feminism, sexual revolution) which we are taught to revere as the truth. In that setting, men are not men anymore, but metro sexual and emotional beings that are there to serve the purpose as a never-criticising soul mate to the new age feminist woman goddess. The perfect matriarchy has now been fulfilled and complete equality has finally been achieved. The fact that mankind will seize to exist within three generations with this type of regime is irrelevant. Long live cultural Marxism! …
Isolated, “sex and the city lifestyle” is relatively harmless, but if you glorify it and ram it down the throat of mainstream society like we see today it becomes a lethal and destructive societal force as we are witnessing which eventually leads to a complete breakdown of moral/ethics, the nuclear family model and a sustainable fertility rate which again is leading us to the extinction of Europeans.
Breivik goes on to rant about STDs and no-fault divorce, before moving on to another favorite obsession of manosphere misogynists, the supposed sexual “capital” of manipulative women:
Females have a significantly higher proportion of erotic capital than males due to biological differences (men have significantly more prevalent sexual urges than females and are thus easily manipulated). The female manipulation of males has been institutionalised during the last decades and is a partial cause of the feminisation of men in Europe. This highly underestimated factor has contributed to the creation and rise of the matriarchal systems which are now dominating Western European countries. …
He also blames women for the spread of what he considers evil “cultural Marxism” and multiculturalism:
Fact: 60-70% of all cultural Marxists/multiculturalists are women. This partly explains why the gradual feminist revolution is directly linked to the implementation of multiculturalist doctrines. These feminist cultural Marxists do not only want more benefits and rights for themselves. They want it all, and have more or less been awarded with everything they could ever dream of achieving. They now have complete matriarchal supremacy domestically and exercise substantial influence in politics. …
Obsessed with the purported danger that Islam will outbreed the West, Breivik offers an assortment of creepy solutions to increase the fertility of Western whites. (It’s not altogether clear to me if these are all his own views, but they certainly are consistent with what he says elsewhere in the manifesto.) After suggesting limiting contraception and banning abortion, Breivik offers this “solution”:
Discourage women in general to strive for full time careers. This will involve certain sexist and discriminating policies but should increase the fertility rate by up to 0,1-0,2 points.
Women should not be encouraged by society/media to take anything above a bachelor’s degree but should not be prevented from taking a master or PhD. Males on the other hand should obviously continue to be encouraged to take higher education – bachelor, master and PhD. …
And then he’s back on his “Sex and the City” hobbyhorse:
Discourage women in general to strive for “sex and the city/Madonna” lifestyles. The mass media are currently actively glorifying/encouraging “sex and the city/Madonna” lifestyles which involves the glorification of casual sex, multiple sex partners and generally an extremely liberal individualistic lifestyle hostile to the traditional nuclear family values. As such, the non-restrictions of the mass media is the main cause for our unsustainable fertility rate of 1,5.
The indirect media/government glorification campaigns through individual artists, various series, movies and media coverage in general should reflect this new shift (no more glorification of “sex and the city lifestyles” or equivalent portrayals. No longer should women be pressured to have equal success regarding their career as males.
Womens “new role” should be actively illustrated and glorified through series, movies and commercials. This will involve significant restrictions in media freedoms and rights. These restrictions and reforms will result in an increased fertility rate of approximately 0,2-0,3 points.
The end result for implementing the above reforms would be an increase in the fertility rate up from 1,5 to approximately 2,1-2,4 which would be sustainable.
However, this will also involve significant restrictions in women’s rights and media rights.
And, like many in the manosphere, he also holds out hope for “artificial wombs,” which would of course reduce the inconvenience of relying on women to cooperate with his plans.
Large chunks of the manifesto consist of cut-and-pasted blog posts from an anonymous far-right Norwegian blogger known as Fjordman, whose now defunct blog can be found here. (According to Andrew Brown in the Guardian article linked to above, Breivik and Fjordman are not the same person.)
Here are some selections from the Fjordman posts that Breivik includes in his manifesto. Again, much of this will seem very familiar to many of you, I am sure.
For all the talk about “girl power” and “women kicking ass” which you see on movies these days, if the men of your “tribe” are too weak or demoralised to protect you, you will be enslaved and crushed by the men from other “tribes” before you can say “Vagina Monologues”. Which means that if you break down men’s masculinity, their willingness and ability to defend themselves and their families, you destroy the country. That’s exactly what Western women have done for the last forty years. ….
The male protective instinct doesn’t take action because Scandinavian women have worked tirelessly to eradicate it, together with everything else that smacks of traditional masculinity. Because of this, feminism has greatly weakened Scandinavia, and perhaps Western civilisation as whole. …
Didn’t feminists always claim that the world would be a better place with women in the driver’s seat, because they wouldn’t sacrifice their own children? Well, isn’t that exactly what they are doing now? Smiling and voting for parties that keep the doors open to Muslim immigration, the same Muslims who will be attacking their children tomorrow? …
Misandry, the hatred of men, isn’t necessarily less prevalent than misogyny, the hatred of women. The difference is that the former is much more socially acceptable.
If all oppression comes from Western men, it becomes logical to try weakening them as much as possible. If you do, a paradise of peace and equality awaits us at the other side of the rainbow. Well congratulations to Western European women. You’ve succeeded in harassing and ridiculing your own sons into suppressing many of their masculine instincts. To your surprise, you didn’t enter a feminist Nirvana, but paved the way for an unfolding Islamic hell. ….
Feminists claim that the reason why women haven’t been as numerous in politics and science as men is due to male oppression of women. Some of this is true. But it is not the whole story. Being male means having to prove something, to achieve something, in a greater way than it does for women. In addition to this, the responsibility for child rearing will always fall more heavily on women than on men. ….
it was in fact the women who started this whole “single is best” culture that now permeates much of the West. Since women initiate most divorces and a divorce can potentially mean financial ruin for a man, it shouldn’t really be too surprising that many men hesitate to get involved at all. … At the same time, women during the past few decades have made it a lot easier to have a girlfriend without getting married. So women make it riskier to get married and easier to stay unmarried, and then they wonder why men “won’t commit?” Maybe too many women didn’t think all this feminism stuff quite through before jumping on the bandwagon? …..
The elaborate welfare state model in Western Europe is frequently labelled as “the nanny state,” but perhaps it could also be named “the husband state.” Why? Well, in a traditional society, the role of men and husbands is to physically protect and financially provide for their women. In our modern society, part of this task has simply been “outsourced” to the state, which helps explain why women in general give a disproportionate support to high taxation and pro-welfare state parties. The state has simply become a substitute husband, upheld by taxation of their ex-husbands. ….
Radical feminism has bred suspicion and hostility, not cooperation. And what’s more, it has no in any way eradicated the basic sexual attraction between feminine women and masculine men. If people do not find this in their own country, they travel to another country or culture to find it, which in our age of globalisation is easier than ever. A striking number of Scandinavian men find their wives in East Asia, Latin America or other nations with a more traditional view of femininity, and a number of women find partners from more conservative countries. …
radical feminism has been one of the most important causes of the current weakness of Western civilisation, both culturally and demographically. Feminists, often with a Marxist world view, have been a crucial component in establishing the suffocating public censorship of Political Correctness in Western nations. They have also severely weakened the Western family structure, and contributed to making the West too soft and self-loathing to deal with aggression from Muslims. …
Well, after two generations of Second Wave Feminism, Ms. Willis and Ms. Beauvoir have had their way: The West has skyrocketing divorce rates and plummeting birth rates, leading to a cultural and demographic vacuum that makes us vulnerable to a take-over by… Islam. And feminists still aren’t satisfied. ….
Feminists claim that women have been victims of men, that men have oppressed women for centuries and that the sexes are equal. Denying this will result in the smears “misogynist” and “male chauvinist pig”. But equalising the sexes has led to a crippling feminisation of Western society … portraying women as oppressed victims and the equals of males is one example of how the pursuit of equality is being used to destroy our society and undermine – and therefore be in conflict with – Mother nature. ….
I’ll continue going through the manifesto to see what else I can find. If any of you decide to do the same thing, and find other selections in it that you find telling, please post them in the comments below.
I would also like to find specific writings on manosphere blogs – posts or comments – that directly parallel these selections from Breivik’s manifesto. If any of you are willing to help, again, please post your findings in the comments below, along with URLs to the sources of the manosphere quotes.
Ideas have consequences. Vile, hateful ideas have vile, hateful consequences.
For more on Breivik’s misogyny, see this post on Red Light Politics.
PZ Myers has more on Breivik’s noxious ideology, including his hatred of atheists, here.
@Nobby also he knows more than Kirby about the valid arguments of the MRM but he won’t tell us them b/c he’s not a “voicer” xD (apparently he’s just allowed to hint that he does but not actually say what they are xD he’s like a teaser trailer xD )
@Ami:
“he’s like a teaser trailer xD”
You mean there is gonna be more? O.o
He’s got Ami in his name, but a whole blog of his own. Where does a goddess find the time?
Well we’ve only been asking this stuff about the MRAs and MRM and etc for quite a while… there better be a movie coming out xD
“You mean there is gonna be more? O.o”
Motherfuckin’ snakes on my motherfucking plane!
This time, he’s not me xD
OR IS HE…
DUN DUN DUN
YOHAMI, are you me? 😀
Okay, now I want in on this. Am I a woman or a man? I’ve got a male name, but my avatar is female. I could be anything! I could even be a basenji!
@YOHAMI:
“Dude. What does life mean?”
Dude. Asking for you to explain what your own statements mean isn’t as difficult as an existential quandary… is it?
Since we’re not even talking about nething nemore (and YOHAMI is in sulky mode and refuses to talk about nething or discuss nething)
Hey YOHAMI have you ever watched Star Wars? 😀
Nobinayamu,
“Yohami, were you really taught that “we’re all the same” or were you taught that we’re all equal? Are you, perhaps, conflating the two concepts? Is that the basis for your confusion?”
And now you portrait me as “confused” I should make a list of all the framings… seems to go forever.
What I meant by that: I was taught, PC, that men and women are the same, equal, same set of instincts, gender being 100% socially constructed, plus a burden, and that freedom and happiness is attained by a degendered world etc. My mom was / is a feminist. I was raised as a person, not as a man.
But obviously that didnt work that well. Because this “degendered” thing is in conflict with my bio-calls, and women usually respond to some stimuli in totally different ways than I would expect if we were “the same”, so I digg about this and try to find the truth. What happens after removing the brainwash, whats natural, whats imposed, what are the variants, what are the constants (if any), whats the base, what are the variations.
Why? not sure. Its where my curiosity goes.
oh oh pick me. Whats my gender yohami?
What sports do you like? 😀
YOHAMI: I mean honestly in the sense that you will actually think about things other people say and take them on board if you concede that the point makes sense – when you say you’re here to ‘test’ us on how open we are – that implies you are not here to engage with us and treat our opinions as valid but to test us as some kind of objective body. I think that an honest argument is one where both opponents are willing to listen to one another, and, if proven wrong, change their argument. Testing = dishonest way of arguing.
Note the second key-word ‘respectfully’. I think I was engaging respectfully with you (though apparently I was screaming and accusing you of misogyny from the outset, or something), actually quoting your words and asking you to clarify your points given that I wasn’t sure what you meant by them. I know what I thought you meant, but wanted to clarify.
And now, as Ami pointed out, you’ve set up a whole thing where if I responded to something you said by saying ‘bullshit’ (as you responded to my argument) I would be a ranty irrational woman who can’t engage logically in conflict. Whatever.
whats your favorite color?
“and women usually respond to some stimuli in totally different ways than I would expect if we were “the same”, so I digg about this and try to find the truth.”
So, because you found some women react in ways you would not, this means that all women are different by nature? No chance that this could be a result of different upbringing?
Yohami, I’m not asking you for the meaning of life. I don’t think you’re being profane. I’m asking you a question. Let’s try this: what does that mean to you?
You’ve said that men are more logical, women are more emotional. Fine. I don’t concede the point, but fine.
What does that even mean to you? You aren’t logical. You know women who are logical. You’re making vague references to science, and culture, and brainwashing, and none of your arguments are especially logical.
So what does that statement mean to you? Is it true mostly, but not always? If so, does it have value? Does it influence the way you view men and women as individuals? Does it influence the way you view men and women as groups? You accept this as fact, so how do you apply this knowledge?
What the fuck does that mean?
I get it – Ami is one of Yohami’s social experiments, she’s his rodeocat side!
Oh I’m totally not spaming to make this 1000 posts by the way. 😛
What’s MY favourite colour? 😀
no, yohami’s? xD
Kirby,
“Alright, we already know you don’t have actual data to support your claim, so all you have is personal experience.”
If I was trying to convince you to switch to my views, I would need to provide you data and maybe enroll you in some course.
What I do is report, tell you what I see, and ask you what I see. I gain your views, you gain mine.
Im not trying to convince anyone. If you want data, the world is out there.
I find funny that everyone attacks “first hand experience” when thats precisely what everyone should be aiming for. A first real experience of stuff. If not, whats left? data? studies? most of these stuff is done for authorities who shape the views in whatever form they decide to, because its convenient to them.
But dont take my word for it. Go check yourself.
I wonder how ill he must be feeling now… xD
I should set a new line (given his weird little obsession w/ “testing” us I’ll set it long)
10 days
who takes the over and who takes the under
for how long until he leaves? xD
*typo
What I do is report, tell you what I see, and ask you what YOU see. I gain your views, you gain mine.
I’m his Silver Surfer xD
@ Ami
Is that counting from when he first showed up, or from now?