I made a video! Is it wrong that I love these stupid Xtranormal cartoon dudes and their robotic voices?
Anyway, here’s AussieSteve, from MGTOWforums.com, offering some opinions about the bitches of today.
Here’s the quote in boring non-animated typed-out word format:
Hey girls, you were told motherhood was slavery and you could do anything a man could do. I guess you’re feeling pretty betrayed by your feminist sisters now aren’t you? Well tough shit, actions have consequences – deal with it. One thing’s for sure, I aint bailing you out. I actually LIKE watching you suffer, it’s called justice. As it turns out it’s ME that doesn’t need YOU!! And further to the point, you’ve revealed your true colours and I don’t like them. Never been a fan of bile green myself.
Now fuck off and buy a cat, it’s the only thing that will put up with your crap. I’m outa here – bye bitches, you’re on your own.
If you all find this little cartoon even vaguely amusing, I will make more and better ones.
Yohami, do you think that guys like Silvio Berlusconi are hated because of their success with women ? If a guy has success with women, everybody will celebrate him.
@Rachel:
I believe that was chocomintlipwax who said that, not me…
Woops, that was chocomintlipwax with the quote, not Kirby! My bad!
Nomoreniceguy,
Add Silvio Berlusconi to the John Mayer, Hugh Hefner, George Clooney list etc.
I cant give my opinion on the guy though. I know Roissysphere adores the guy, but I have no clue if the media likes him or not. Whatever the case, he´s an outlier like the others in the list. I dont see the alpha adoration being ingrained in the culture anymore, but more of a demonized sub-culture.
What do guys here think about Berlusconi?
Yohami, if you’re going to use broad generalizations, fine. Rock with it. But be consistent. Hefner, Clooney, Mayer, et. al, are in fact celebrated for their status as dedicated bachelors. And Jennifer Aniston, despite being rich, famous, and lovely is kind of continuously tsk-tsked by the press for being: 1) left by her husband and 2) her seemingly perpetual single status. And no matter how often people gush about Helen Mirren (and she’s well worth the gushing) or how quickly the term MILF was adopted, older women are still routinely cautioned about pursuing or being pursued by younger men.
None of the rich, powerful, and/or famous are going to be truly “representative” of men or women. Here, in the world inhabited by most of the rest of us, being single -especially past a certain age- will be subject to a variety of judgments. Some will be positive, some will be negative and, I don’t know, I don’t find it particularly valuable to try and figure out “who has it worse.”
I may well be in the minority.
If you are isolated, why hanging out with MRAs ? You just hang out with the wrong crowd.
Did I say I was isolated, or are you just trying to hurt and shame me because you are feeling cranky? Or are you hallucinating?
Nobinayamu,
“None of the rich, powerful, and/or famous are going to be truly “representative” of men or women.”
That.
“I don’t find it particularly valuable to try and figure out “who has it worse.”
I think thats the only point being made on this thread.
Yeah, Yohami, I recognize that. But even for a thread where the original post is basically a one-liner, I think the “who has it worse” discussion is really beside the point. All single people are judged. The thing is the cartoon is based on a comment from someone calling himself AussieSteve who associates with MGOTW. And it’s clear that the guy either didn’t read, or didn’t understand the article. Or didn’t care; that’s also a possibility.
For me, that just makes the cartoon funnier. But the notion that single women in their 30s and 40s are looking to be bailed out, is pretty fucking funny too. Which gender of single people is more “harshly” judged just kind of seems like a non sequitor.
But, I don’t know – it’s super hot, I’m super bored, and I’ve got about an hour to kill before taking my pops to the movies.
At first I thought FactFinder might be AWS: The Fact, but he’s not nearly as crazy. Which is a shame, because AWS was very entertaining, and FactFinder . . . isn’t.
I don’t think the similarity of names is unusual, though. Trolls often have nyms that are just as disingenuous as their arguments, so finding multiple MRA trolls who insist that they’re stating facts is . . .
Yeah.
Oh, man, I almost forgot about AWS. Wasn’t he suggesting/daring/begging David to make a thread about him, for a while there?
The troll may be gone, but his legacy remains.
The thing about single men and women at work — I agree with the basic idea that married people (men, in particular — married women are risky because of pregnancy) have it easier in business and in politics, in some ways. A married guy needs the promotion because he’s supporting his family, he’s stable, he’s trustworthy, he’s normal, whatever. A married woman is — well, again, maybe she’s not entirely trustworthy, but at least she’s normal. These are stereotypes that exist. If there’s no single-person prejudice, there’s at least kind of weird insinuations that a single person has to deal with. I get it.
And yet, here we have an MRA flinging this accusation at a feminist site, as though it’s feminism’s fault, or feminists support this. It’s a really old assumption, and it’s something that — I don’t know that feminism has done anything specific to deal with it, but in that feminism is about challenging traditional gender roles and rethinking assumptions, it seems to me that feminism lives comfortably alongside challenging the notion that people in general need to be married to be normal and employable and successful.
Nobinayamu,
Yeah, the who has it worse is pretty boring. I just wanted to chime in that being a corporate single man != being James Bond
Someone here said that men have all the fun or something like that.
I dont know about professionally successful but single women who need a cat, I dont know any.
I do know a bunch of lonely mature guys who have nothing other than a job.
So the cartoon is probably a projection, and maybe a few, few women are reaching a destiny that was more common for men until now.
Once again MGTOW is not about men choosing to go their own way, it’s about how wymmminz are x,y,z and how much wymmminz suck?
What is the technical difference between an MGTOW and an old fashioned bachelor ?
Bee, I think it’s true that married people are often considered -if not more “normal”- at the very least more stable than single people. Especially after a certain age; certainly in professional environments. I wouldn’t deny that. I just think that single people, regardless of gender, are subject to near equal amounts of positive and negative stereotyping.
I’ve gotten all of the “Still single? No children? You know you’re clock’s ticking,” type stuff. I’ve heard women say, “I mean he’s nice and everything but, forty, never been married, never been close? I just don’t know girl…” I think it cuts both ways.
As far as an MRA-type showing up and placing the blame at the feet of feminism? Water’s wet, sky’s blue, everything in the world MRA-types don’t like is because of feminism.
Like you, though, I often find the compulsion to assign the blame for ordinary hardships -like being single if one considers it a hardship- to feminism aggravating. But also kind of sad.
The difference is that old fashioned bachelors (I assume you mean the Henry Higgins model) don’t spend their every waking moment obsessing over women.
Nobinayamu, I completely agree with the idea that the stereotype exists for men and women both — and in what amounts …? Well, it’s kind of pointless to argue that. Not to mention impossible, since the mileage is so very prone to vary from person to person, position to position, situation to situation, etc.
I’ve agreed with what you’ve been saying. I was more commenting in reaction to what FactFinder said.
“‘What is the technical difference between an MGTOW and an old fashioned bachelor ?”
“The difference is that old fashioned bachelors (I assume you mean the Henry Higgins model) don’t spend their every waking moment obsessing over women.”
He just pulls one out of the gutter and makes her over from fashion to speech patterns. STEP UP YOUR GAME, MRAS! 😛
*That should have been “the stereotypes exist for men and women both,” since you (Nobinayamu) were talking about both the negative and positive stereotypes.
I could probably write two or three editorial changes every time I post a comment.
Hey Bee, we’re totally in agreement. No need for any editorial changes.
Molly Ren? That was hilarious.
You know what always strikes me about the “everything I don’t like from my job, to condoms, to stuffed crust pizza is the fault of feminism” MRA-types? If any ethnic minority so much as hints that anything in their life is less than perfect as a result of current or historical prejudice -they’re apoplectic with denial.
Women expecting men to wipe their ass is the fault of feminism encouraging us to be “perfect princesses”. But class and race discrimination was all done away with by quotas.
The message of “the clock is ticking” is “marry someone and have babies or you will be failure as a woman.” Bee pointed out that message is meant to benefit people (to use the term lightly) like AussieSteve.
The woman who is not enthusiastic about a relationship with a single 40 yr old man who has never had a relationship is questioning whether the person be able to adapt to considering and accommodating a partner. The question is meant to benefit the woman.Two different things.
Marriage and partnering are considered the norm in our society. Therefore, anyone single is un-normative and makes everyone uncomfortable. We need a single movement, like the gay movement.
Laughing my head off at “Factfinder” asking for evidence the Daily Mail is unreliable. Yep, he finds the facts, alright.
So now we have Mythic Alphas xD Still waiting on those Dire Alphas xD
This is good card fodder tho :3
I should be cardfinder xD
New alias? Or is it aMias?
Some good points, though a bit dated. Many women started to see how feminism–and the “education” fitting them for the feminist lifestyle–was hurting them in the search for men, families,and relationships as early as the late ’80s and early ’90s. What we are seeing today is the deserted wreakage of what were once women, tryting to come to terms with being to masculine to be useful or appealing to men, and too feminine to be good feminists and ‘modern women’!
Your point about them getting cats to keep them company bothers me a little bit. Cats can be very nice creatures, It is a form of cruelty to animals, surely unintended on your part, to suggest that these sleek, beautiful, and quite interesting creatures enduring the company of bitter, stupid, noisy, opinionated, narcissitically self-absorbed, and just plain REVOLTING feminists! Except for the lowest form of alley cats, most of the pretty kitties are really too good for modern women!
Let ’em keep company with cockroaches, rats, or others on their level!
PEACE AND FREEDOM!!
David K. Meller
Are MGTOW allowed to keep cats ?