Sometimes MRAs are infuriating; sometimes they are hilarious. And once in a long, long while they are simply adorable. Consider xavan512 (not his real name), a Redditor who thinks it’s high time that MRAs launched a PR campaign to defend themselves against the mean things said about them by “radical feminist blog’s or other ignorant people” who think that:
“Oh those MRA’s just need to get laid” “They are a bunch of lonely neckbeards” “They are just bitter” “They are probably forever alone’s” “They hate women” “Misogynists” ect.
Basically they are trying to make our concerns appear illegitimate because we must be whiny losers. Or because we “hate” women since we don’t adhere to the feminist dogma.
Ok, you say, so far he’s just being sort of irritating. But here is where the “adorable” part comes in. You see, whenever feminist meanies suggest that MRAs are woman-hating losers, xavan512 proposes, MRAs should respond with “hard evidence” to counter this perception. No, not penis pictures. Something even better: pictures of themselves with actual, smiling girlfriends.
Xavan512 started by posting the picture in the top right. Yep, that’s xavan512 and his actual girlfriend, standing in a field, dressed to the nines (or at least the high sixes or sevens). He’s looking dapper in his suit, accented with a bold red tie, and she of course looks lovely in a totally cute dress with an utterly adorable tiny pink purse. I’m not sure if they’re on their way to a prom, or a wedding, of if they just like posing in outdoor settings.
By the way – I didn’t scribble over the faces on the picture. Xavan512 did that himself, because, he insists, “being publicly MRA is socially taboo.”
After posting this photo, which proves beyond a shadow of a doubt that xavan512 thinks highly enough of at least one human female that he is willing to stand next to her long enough to get a picture taken, this newly self-appointed MR PR guru urged his fellow MRAs “to post a picture of yourself or mention if you have a girlfriend/wife.”
Alas, xavan512’s plan met a certain degree of resistance from fellow Reddit MRAs.
OThomson complained:
Why post a picture of ourselves with our girlfriends, we do not need the Validation of a Women to make our cause just, i’ll freely admit i’m single and looking for the right person because looking for non-crazy, non-privileged, non-annoyance is a genuine trouble these days, i don’t resent Women for that (Ok i slightly resent their position as sexual selectors for our species because it gives them so much power over men) but on the whole i’m an MRA because i want to defend my rights and the rights of all Men.
Francomaistre was even more cutting in his criticism:
I’m sure you propose this with the best of intentions, but I’m with OThomson on this. Trying to engineer some kind of phoney boloney PR campaign with cherry picked images of smiling couples professionally photographed in semi-formal dress in pastoral settings seems like a pretty dramatic mischaracterization of many MRA’s experiences and subtly subverts the movement and concerns that drives many of us to be MRA’s in the first place.
Maybe it’s a separation or divorce situation, maybe we’ve been subject to a false rape or domestic violence accusation, maybe we’re sick of being stereotyped by the media as dim-witted psycho-violent timebombs just waiting to be tripped, or are just generally sick of being treated by second-class citizens by “empowered women” who can judge our sexuality, shame us, and even inflict physical violence on us almost entirely without consequence.
Someone woke up cranky today!
Here’s the thing: the adorableness of xavan512’s picture aside, if MRAs are tired of people calling them misogynists, there’s a much more direct way to challenge this perception – and that is to challenge the rampant misogyny in the MRM. You want examples? Check the archives here. I’m kind of a lazy bastard, and I don’t like doing any more research than I have to, yet over the relatively brief lifetime of this blog I’ve managed to post literally hundreds of pretty outrageous examples of misogyny from the mouths of (or, rather, the keyboards of) MRAs. And that’s only scratching the surface. I don’t read every MRA blog every day. And I only post a tiny, tiny fraction of the misogyny I run across. It is everywhere in the MRM.
If you’re an MRA, and you’re NOT a flaming misogynist, and you want your issues to be taken seriously, don’t post pictures of yourself with your smiling girlfriend. Challenge the misogyny that surrounds you. Get together with other MRAs, and drum the misogynists out of the movement. Build bridges with feminists working on men’s rights issues. Just say no to the douchebags.
How about this one, then?
More proof!
Their plan is wrong, because it plays into the myth that women are more trusting of men that have women around them, and therefore it still encourages a form of misandry, albeit less conscious.
In the world of MRAs, it’s okay to be misogynist but it’s not okay for a feminist to even remotely criticize certain men or misogyny. And they call feminists the hypocrites?
Also, I’m willing to bet that most of the ones that complain about DV against men or whatever are ones who haven’t ever dealt with it. I mean, how could they if they can’t find girls/women who are masochistic enough to get into a relationship with them? ;/
I just gave birth to a little dude and I have not even returned him to The Baby Store ™. Case closed!
Vacuumslayer wins.
Lef-tenant: How can you tell someone’s height from a photograph with which you have no personal reference? You have no idea how tall that woman is.
Here’s a picture of me standing next to KristinMH. The height difference is similar to the picture above*, but I assure you that I am nowhere near 6’1.
*It’s a little less, admittedly, but I know many women who are far shorter than she is.
…and, guys, he is SUCH a Beta. Super-short, bald, chubby. And the lactation coach called him “disorganized at the breast.” in pictures it looks as if I am looking at him lovingly, but it’s only cuz I photoshopped the look of disgust off my face.
For once i agree with the HeadBoob. MRAs who counter accusations of misogyny with anything other than “Yes I Am” are pathetic. Being a misogynist in a misandrist society is a noble calling and something to be proud of.
Wow, Spear, how GQing you look!
Spear is always very GQ awesome looking :3
My chin always disappears in photos. I swear, I have a chin.
*would comment on the chin but is distracted by the appearance of books…*
Xavan 512 should stop worrying about whether or not feminists, misandrists, and other such people don’t like him! That they don’t like him, agree with him, or support his positions on issues of interest to him–and other men, along with the women who love us– tell him, and his readers about his adversaries here, not about MRA!
He should look at some of the trash, slander, and just plain twaddle which fans and posters of manboobz.com misquote other MRAs, for example! Irreleventa are spewed forth (remarks discussing the picture of him and his woman, for example, with infantile comments). Most of these comments are from women who probably compare to the cutie in his picture the way a porcupine compares with one of the adorable kittens shown elsewhere in manboobz.
My apologies to any offended porcupines! You all are still prettier, and more adorable than pushy, opinionated, over-educated, and just plain disgusting feminists!
The MRAs are cited and attacked for the EXACT OPPOSITE of their stated opinions! Maybe the feminists can’t read, or, more likely, they simply print up replies in advance here, heavily larded with ‘straw men’, argumentum ad hominem bordering on slander, and just plain antimale prejudice, and are given to fans who are capable of nothing better! Fans of the excellent website www. the-spearhead, including yours truly, have opined here with just such results. If they hate you, you are must be saying or doing something RIGHT! Don’t change for their sake!
PEACE AND FREEDOM!!
David K. Meller
Hay! MELLER IS BACK!!!! 😀
*runs up and hugs him!*
xDDDD
You make the best posts! 😀
also apparently you’re a scab, b/c Ion called for a strike action! O:
Why do I get the strange feeling that DKM is the Grinch on the top of the mountain, staring down at Who-ville in impotent rage? Maybe his dramatic flowery language? Perhaps his insitance on the third person and indirect communication? Perhaps his insistance on shouting at the top of his lungs “PEACE AND FREEDOM!!” so that perhaps some Fem down in Fem-ville will here more than the whining wind?
It’s like he’s high above everyone else, no one he dare communicate with directly, no opposing view he represents fairly; so high above everyone that his brain is oxygen starved, and the euphoric high of brain damage causes the much needed sense of superiority.
“The MRAs are cited and attacked for the EXACT OPPOSITE of their stated opinions!”
Interesting, how we quote MRA’s EXACT opinions, and then criticize them. It’s almost as if you are attacking us for the EXACT OPPOSITE of our stated opinion! Perhaps your heart is three sizes to small… Care for some roast beast?
XD
I’m curious what their stated opinions ARE then? o_O If it’s the opposite…
like if David quotes somebody as saying something negative about Watson, did we misread it and in fact they are supporting her? xD
Wait… so should we read MELLER to mean the opposite of what he says too? o_O;;;
Ruh roh XD
I mean, I don’t know how much this means to any of y’all, coming from an unadorable pushy, opinionated, over-educated, and just plain disgusting feminist, but I think Spearhafoc, KristenMH, and Ami are supercute.
PEACE AND FREEDOM!!
Bee (on vacation — anyone else want any road tchotchkes?)
@Spearhafoc:
Okay, one, I have to know where you got those sunglasses.
Two, the chin thing is all lighting. You just need some Rembrandt lighting, is all.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rembrandt_lighting
You mean WAR AND SLAVERY?
Signs point to yes.
Also agree with the supercute assessment.
Well, MRA’s are losers? Maybe. I’m an MRA. Let me go ask my spouse.
Ha. Challenge the misogyny around us? What the hell for? How many here in the comments section “challenged” Kia Abdullah for laughing at the guy who set himself on fire? How many are “challenging” the ubiquitous comments celebrating the woman who cut off her soon to be ex-husband’s penis and putting it in the garbage disposal.
I assume you expect us to take you seriously…
Hey, new troll!
I’m afraid I’m going to have to deduct points for the Thomas Ball reference. That is so last week! The current MRA obsession is Rebecca Watson and “elevator guy”.
Here’s something creepy. I’m sitting here reading the boards and in the background on the tv I’m hearing this patter of dialog that sounds familiar. It’s the show Criminal Minds. The episode focus? A serial killer who picks up his prey by using PUA techniques.