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PR for the MRM

The scribbled-out face of the Men's Rights Movement

Sometimes MRAs are infuriating; sometimes they are hilarious. And once in a long, long while they are simply adorable. Consider xavan512 (not his real name), a Redditor who thinks it’s high time that MRAs launched a PR campaign to defend themselves against the mean things said about them by “radical feminist blog’s or other ignorant people” who think that:

“Oh those MRA’s just need to get laid” “They are a bunch of lonely neckbeards” “They are just bitter” “They are probably forever alone’s” “They hate women” “Misogynists” ect.

Basically they are trying to make our concerns appear illegitimate because we must be whiny losers. Or because we “hate” women since we don’t adhere to the feminist dogma.

Ok, you say, so far he’s just being sort of irritating. But here is where the “adorable” part comes in. You see, whenever  feminist meanies suggest that MRAs are woman-hating losers, xavan512 proposes, MRAs should respond with “hard evidence” to counter this perception.  No, not penis pictures. Something even better:  pictures of themselves with actual, smiling girlfriends.

Xavan512 started by posting the picture in the top right. Yep, that’s xavan512 and his actual girlfriend, standing in a field, dressed to the nines (or at least the high sixes or sevens). He’s looking dapper in his suit, accented with a bold red tie, and she of course looks lovely in a totally cute dress with an utterly adorable tiny pink purse. I’m not sure if they’re on their way to a prom, or a wedding, of if they just like posing in outdoor settings.

By the way – I didn’t scribble over the faces  on the picture. Xavan512 did that himself, because, he insists, “being publicly MRA is socially taboo.”

After posting this photo, which proves beyond a shadow of a doubt that xavan512 thinks highly enough of at least one human female that he is willing to stand next to her long enough to get a picture taken, this newly self-appointed MR PR guru urged his fellow MRAs “to post a picture of yourself or mention if you have a girlfriend/wife.”

Alas, xavan512’s plan met a certain degree of resistance from fellow Reddit MRAs.

OThomson complained:

Why post a picture of ourselves with our girlfriends, we do not need the Validation of a Women to make our cause just, i’ll freely admit i’m single and looking for the right person because looking for non-crazy, non-privileged, non-annoyance is a genuine trouble these days, i don’t resent Women for that (Ok i slightly resent their position as sexual selectors for our species because it gives them so much power over men) but on the whole i’m an MRA because i want to defend my rights and the rights of all Men.

Francomaistre was even more cutting in his criticism:

I’m sure you propose this with the best of intentions, but I’m with OThomson on this. Trying to engineer some kind of phoney boloney PR campaign with cherry picked images of smiling couples professionally photographed in semi-formal dress in pastoral settings seems like a pretty dramatic mischaracterization of many MRA’s experiences and subtly subverts the movement and concerns that drives many of us to be MRA’s in the first place.

Maybe it’s a separation or divorce situation, maybe we’ve been subject to a false rape or domestic violence accusation, maybe we’re sick of being stereotyped by the media as dim-witted psycho-violent timebombs just waiting to be tripped, or are just generally sick of being treated by second-class citizens by “empowered women” who can judge our sexuality, shame us, and even inflict physical violence on us almost entirely without consequence.

Someone woke up cranky today!

Here’s the thing: the adorableness of xavan512’s picture aside, if MRAs are tired of people calling them misogynists, there’s a much more direct way to challenge this perception – and that is to challenge the rampant misogyny in the MRM.  You want examples? Check the archives here. I’m kind of a lazy bastard, and I don’t like doing any more research than I have to, yet over the relatively brief lifetime of this blog I’ve managed to post literally hundreds of pretty outrageous examples of misogyny from the mouths of (or, rather, the keyboards of) MRAs. And that’s only scratching the surface. I don’t read every MRA blog every day. And I only post a tiny, tiny fraction of the misogyny I run across.  It is everywhere in the MRM.

If you’re an MRA, and you’re NOT a flaming misogynist, and you want your issues to be taken seriously, don’t post pictures of yourself with your smiling girlfriend.  Challenge the misogyny that surrounds you. Get together with other MRAs, and drum the misogynists out of the movement. Build bridges with feminists working on men’s rights issues. Just say no to the douchebags.

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mralieutenant
13 years ago

My first thought was that picture’s fake, because the guy looks at LEAST 6’1.

Tabby Lavalamp
Tabby Lavalamp
13 years ago

So… MRAs can’t be over 6 feet tall?

mralieutenant
13 years ago

I’d say the VAST majority aren’t.

Trollin'MRAs
Trollin'MRAs
13 years ago

I’m laughing at the MRAs making excuses for not having a single picture of themselves with a smiling woman. I mean, how hard is it to have a teacher, classmate, coworker or female family member pretend to like you for one second? The faces are redacted for chrissakes. Unimaginative bitter bozos.

PS: is there a blog post about this Greg Fultz yet? He’s a shining example of the Manosphere desire to curb abortion rights under the pretense they should have some say in whether the lady they got knocked up gets an abortion or not:

http://ontd-political.livejournal.com/8166854.html?thread=503136710

He’s also a total creep who harasses 13 year old girls on neopets:

http://ontd-political.livejournal.com/8166854.html?thread=503136710#t503136710

summer_snow
summer_snow
13 years ago

But MRAL, isn’t the whole point of this picture to take down harmful stereotypes of MRAs? And demonstrate that people with higher social standing can be MRAs?

hellkell
hellkell
13 years ago

Fultz was covered a month or so ago.

hellkell
hellkell
13 years ago

If MRAs are over 6′, I guess that blows your silly Greek system apart, Mr.AL.

Trollin'MRAs
Trollin'MRAs
13 years ago

thanks hellkell, glad to know Man Boobz is on top of the man boobery news.

Amnesia
Amnesia
13 years ago

@David

LOL. XD

zombie rotten mcdonald
13 years ago

But but but DaVID!

He is SHORTER than she is! By Greek Theory, she would not let him touch her, she should be sneering and spitting on him!

zombie rotten mcdonald
13 years ago

of course, they are not on an elevator, so what is the protocol here? How does a woman humiliate a man who is outstanding in his field (oh shut up Johnny Pez, it’s in a new format!)

Amnesia
Amnesia
13 years ago

So, would MRAs actually listen to us feminists when we say we don’t hate men if we post a picture of ourselves standing happily next to a man? Cause if that’s all it took to win that argument, I could raid my facebook photos and find that pretty easily…

zombie rotten mcdonald
13 years ago

ZRM, you seem to be mistaking me for someone else.

by your gravatar, you’re not bald.

zombie rotten mcdonald
13 years ago

Amnesia, YOU ARE ALL FAR TOO DEVIOUS FOR THAT.

Also, Photoshop.

Amused
Amused
13 years ago

She’s not allowed to use Photoshop! It was invented by men!

shaenon
13 years ago

Suggestions for the MRA PR campaign:

My dream is to communicate only in Mr. Show clips and James Tiptree quotes.

Victoria von Syrus
Victoria von Syrus
13 years ago

So, would MRAs actually listen to us feminists when we say we don’t hate men if we post a picture of ourselves standing happily next to a man? Cause if that’s all it took to win that argument, I could raid my facebook photos and find that pretty easily…

They’d just claim that the man was an alpha, an emasculated mangina or only bothering to pose because he hopes for sex.

Then they’d criticize what you look like.

mralieutenant
13 years ago

Okay, Futrelle, I admit I laughed.

Joanna
13 years ago

I’m so glad I live in a society where people aren’t fucking insane.

Amnesia
Amnesia
13 years ago

I’m so tempted to post photos of myself with Disneyworld mascots and claim that as proof that I don’t hate men.

Joanna
13 years ago

LMAO Amnesia. Photoshop yourself beside male celebrities too. XD

Amnesia
Amnesia
13 years ago

Alrighty then. Here goes nothing.

Proof that Amnesia does not hate men!

Joanna
13 years ago

Could be a chick under that Goofy outfit =o