The other day Darksidecat introduced me to what I now consider to be the Greatest Webpage Ever (this week): Regender, a handy tool that will take any web page and, well, regender it, turning male pronouns and references into female and vice versa. It even works with names.
Following Darksidecat’s lead, I have started plugging the writings of some of my favorite manosphere misogynists into the magical regendering machine. The results are, well, instructive. And frequently hilarious. As DSC noted, Roissy and MarkyMark are perfect for this sort of treatment. As is, I discovered, MarkyMark’s longtime pal Christopher in Oregon. Here’s what happens when Christopher of Oregon becomes Christine of Oregon with the help of regender, and all the horrible shit he wrote about women becomes the horrible shit she wrote about men:
Men are whores. They are far more likely to have STD’s than women. Be aware of this. Handle with extreme care. Men are filthy, and they will lie about their infections. Condoms will NOT protect you. …
Men are walking cesspools of filth! Most of them have or will have a permanent STD infection. It is unavoidable. These are FACTS, and not the rantings of an unstable misandrist.
(I’m a very STABLE misandrist, thank you kindly)
Men are DIRTY creatures, pure and simple. Be dignified, and don’t lower yourself to engaging in any filthy behavior with them. You WILL be infected with the diseases they are carrying. A moral, dignified woman does NOT rut like an animal with one of these creatures. Sexual intercourse and oral sex are filthy, disgusting activities, and ruin a woman morally. They spread disease.
Elevate yourself above such filth of the flesh. …
Do not lust after men in your mind. Masturbate only as a last result to relieve tension. Do not lust after men sexually. It weakens you.
Goddess made woman in Her image, and men was made in the image of Satan. Squeal all you want, but history proves me right. A man is a test; a stumbling block for woman. Our life is an adventure. A journey. A pursuit of our creator, and a pursuit of excellence in our personal lives. A man and his filth is part of the obstacle course set before us. If we are wise, and avoid them, we will grow stronger as a result. We will finish the race successfully.
Men was not put here to support us as such, and we will only grow stronger if we AVOID his snares. ..
Christine in Oregon
Woah. Critics of Man Boobz often say that feminists are “just as bad” as the guys I quote. Well, if they were, the posts on their blogs would look a lot like this regendered post. I ask all of you: have you ever seen something so grotesquely misandrist on any feminist web site? I thought not.
Here’s a challenge for all of you: See if you can come up with a regendered post that tops this one from “Christine in Oregon.” You can draw from old posts of mine, or go poking about in the manosphere yourself. Post your results in the thread below, along with a link to the regendered web page you got them from. I’ll highlight the best in a future post.
“Luke, sorry for the confusion. Of course it’s not an invention of feminism that women are multidimensional people. That would be a principle of feminism.”
The point is, it was a principle just about anyone held long before feminism existed. And it will be long after feminism is gone.
The world is not made up of enlightened feminists on the one side, and the great unwashed heretics who deny the humanity of women on the other side.
Y’know, it’s not like helping you masturbate hasn’t been a lot of fun, but I have to say that the best part of the discussion has gotta be knowing that no one gives a shit what Marc thinks. Not just here, but anywhere. Not in the courthouses, the legislature, the halls of public opinion. No one is on board with what Marc’s philosophy of CJ and punishment except a brave and prinicpled band of other anonymous rapists and rape supporters.
Lol ur ridiculous rape apologia. Have a good sleep.
I’m still waiting for an rational argument why rape is punished by ten years in prison and streaming the gay sex of your roommate so he’s so embarrassed that he commits suicide isn’t. You don’t have that.
I’m not a rape supporter!
And of course it’s totally ridiculous what I said, but I just wanted to have a rational argument why rape is so much worse than other crimes where there’s just psychological damage (like bullying).
The answer is EVOLUTION.
The answer is NATURE.
It’s imprinted in our brains to think rape is worse than bullying someone, though logically if you look at the potential damage, there’s no difference.
IMPRINTED.
There is no rational reason. It’s IMPRINTED, we are like robots programmed by evolution to think rape is bad. It’s imprinted in our deepest most fundamental neurological pathways and if you don’t think it’s bad you’re seen as a deviant.
Even if a victim would say that “Oh, I was raped, but it wasn’t that bad it ruined my day but that’s all.” = deviant.
It’s the same way ice bear mothers don’t think it’s bad to kill their weak offspring.
And therefore Michael Ruse is 100% right.
I waited a long time, I really gave you the chance but you failed. I made it as inflammatory, I really tried to tease you to get you thinking but still you couldn’t give me an argument.
Therefore I and Michael Ruse are RIGHT.
Michael Ruse’s article is one of the best things ever written, it will open your eyes, READ IT! It’s a must-read.
Also, you left out the part where the fertilized egg attaches itself to the wall of the uterus.
So, it turns out that Silly does not in fact understand pregnancy. Damn I’m good.
I guess everyone here won their debates because, they said so. I think I’ll run with that one as well. And if that doesn’t work you can always lobby for Big Daddy to change the rules so you always win. Go, go gadget communism.
OK, Marc. You just keep telling yourself that.
Random passive-aggressive insult.
Just for the record, I want NO PRAISE from trolls. I want trolls to STOP FUCKING PRAISING ME by saying stupid shit like I am “perfect”. That kind of praise is like the cloying sweetness of cyanide hanging in the air.
Shall I elaborate on my long list of faults, the times I have fucked up at work, in personal relationships, with my family, with my friends? It turns out this blog is not the beginning and end of our lives! Never being wrong on ONE blog in conversations with ONE person (even if that were the case) is so far from the definition of “perfect” that I can’t even believe it’s a topic of discussion.
Except, oh, right, this is NWOSlave we’re talking about who’s wrong 90% of the time (his favorite number!). And even that isn’t the same as “always wrong”. So he can stop saying that stupid shit too.
“The world is not made up of enlightened feminists on the one side, and the great unwashed heretics who deny the humanity of women on the other side.”
Holy crap, Luke. You almost got it!
Hey, why do you keep putting words that I never said into my mouth? Just curious.
Silly, if you really want to earn your conspiracy theorist wings, you ought to investigate this whole watery clouds conspiracy. This could potentially dwarf the global warming hoax in terms of sinister statist attacks on individual freedom.
“Hey, why do you keep putting words that I never said into my mouth? Just curious.”
I didn’t. I quoted you verbatim.
OK, Marc. You just keep telling yourself that.
You haven’t answered my question. Was the punishment for “hummer mom” too severe?
Marc: Bear with me here.
One: Not all arguements of telos are about God. That teleological arguments have been used to “prove” god (see William Paley) is not their only flaw. Telology is “argument from design”. It’s the core of, “the woman’s place is rearing children, because she is made for it”.
When you say there is no provable harm because rape is merely a non-consesnual version of something the genitals are meant to be used for, that is an argument from design.
I say you argue in bad faith… because you do. You have said there is no way to convince you. Then you spout nonsense about how no other crimes deal with psychological harms, so rape ought to be reduced to, at most, a misdemeanor.
I am not engaging in “evil” distortions. One, that would require that I am actually distorting your meaning, and misusing your words, and two that I was doing it from a sense of malice.
Since neither of those is true (painful as it may be to see your words explained in plainer english, and stripped of fallacy) it’s not evil.
Here is some of what you said about rape:
No, I don’t get it. If you hit someone it causes physical damage. Remember: many people voluntarily have sex in their lives but few people want to get beaten.
And in the most but the very serious cases, beating someone is still punished less than rape, that didn’t even cause physical damage.
So you compared rape to consensual sex in terms of it’s “physical damage”
There is absolutely no rational argument, because if theres just psychological harm (no STDs, no unwanted pregnacy), which is subjective and difficult to measure, it should just be as serious as libel or defamation.
Now, there is a little thing we didn’t address before. Libel and defamation are civil offenses. So, either you meant something else, or you think rape isn’t really a criminal offense, not under your, “rational argument” test.
That rational argument test, btw, is moving the goalposts. We don’t know how you define “cogent argument”, and everytime someone presents a coherent one (or refutes one of your silly claims like “assualts that don’t cause physical harm” aren’t severely punished… Oh.. they are? Well that’s because they might have caused harm.
What, pray tell is it about rape that makes it different? The rapist might have caused harm, yes? Or is it that since she didn’t insist on real harm, only being willing to put up with mental anguish, which you admit can be severe, it wasn’t, “really” rape.
That’s why I say you are arguing in bad faith, and presenting de facto if not inentional, apologia, for rape.
Which makes you a rape apologist.
uh, non-feminist here who thinks women are human, just FYI.
And I am a heretic, but I just took a shower so I’m definitely not unwashed!
“I’m still waiting for an rational argument why rape is punished by ten years in prison and streaming the gay sex of your roommate so he’s so embarrassed that he commits suicide isn’t. You don’t have that.”
No, I said that I think the answer to that is that the law hasn’t caught up to bullying (or cyberbullying, for that matter). Dharun Ravi has been indicted on 15 counts, and could face (according to one article I read) up to five years in prison. And yes, to the extent that any of us work on any of the things we chat about on here, let’s try to make the punishment for bullying that leads to death harsher. I’m all for that.
As for the rest of what you said, whatever. You’re not a rape supporter, you’re a person who uses evo-psych to support rape. Big diff.
Holy crap, the comment’s section has doubled since I was last here… Erm… What exactly is going on? Is NWO stirring up trouble because he thinks that, at the moment sperm hits egg, you have an infant inside the woman that is fully human and has human rights?
kirbywarp, 3 trolls = extra troll sauce.
NWO: I guess everyone here won their debates because, they said so. I think I’ll run with that one as well. Why should you do anything differently today from your usual.
Get up. Spend ten minutes doing all your laundry. Lose arguments on the internet. Declare Victory (TM)
You have said there is no way to convince you.
Where?
So you compared rape to consensual sex in terms of it’s “physical damage”
Yes, why not? How could there be false rape claims if it weren’t that way?
Now, there is a little thing we didn’t address before. Libel and defamation are civil offenses. So, either you meant something else, or you think rape isn’t really a criminal offense, not under your, “rational argument” test.
Well I’m sorry, didn’t know they are just civil offenses in the US.
That rational argument test, btw, is moving the goalposts. We don’t know how you define “cogent argument”, and everytime someone presents a coherent one (or refutes one of your silly claims like “assualts that don’t cause physical harm” aren’t severely punished… Oh.. they are? Well that’s because they might have caused harm.
That was ONE time. It was ONE time that someone presented an argument.
As if I didn’t know, as if we didn’t all know, that attempted crimes are also punished.
The people who present such arguments are the ones arguing in bad faith.
As for the rest of what you said, whatever. You’re not a rape supporter, you’re a person who uses evo-psych to support rape. Big diff.
Where have I supported rape?
Show me the post where I said “I support rape!”
@Marc:
For my benefit, and probably for others who feel like you are shifting your argument constantly, could you sum up your point in a couple sentences so people know what you are trying to argue? Thanks.
Sure, Luke. You quoted me and then you implied that I was arguing that the world is made up of enlightened feminists on the one side, and the great unwashed heretics who deny the humanity of women on the other side. Or perhaps you were just adding that to your response, even though it had absolutely nothing to do with what I had said. I dunno.
@ Pecunium
I think he also spends a minute or two looking for hidden government surveillance cameras.
Marc,
Depends. Who was she?
Hey, new thread! See you there!