The other day Darksidecat introduced me to what I now consider to be the Greatest Webpage Ever (this week): Regender, a handy tool that will take any web page and, well, regender it, turning male pronouns and references into female and vice versa. It even works with names.
Following Darksidecat’s lead, I have started plugging the writings of some of my favorite manosphere misogynists into the magical regendering machine. The results are, well, instructive. And frequently hilarious. As DSC noted, Roissy and MarkyMark are perfect for this sort of treatment. As is, I discovered, MarkyMark’s longtime pal Christopher in Oregon. Here’s what happens when Christopher of Oregon becomes Christine of Oregon with the help of regender, and all the horrible shit he wrote about women becomes the horrible shit she wrote about men:
Men are whores. They are far more likely to have STD’s than women. Be aware of this. Handle with extreme care. Men are filthy, and they will lie about their infections. Condoms will NOT protect you. …
Men are walking cesspools of filth! Most of them have or will have a permanent STD infection. It is unavoidable. These are FACTS, and not the rantings of an unstable misandrist.
(I’m a very STABLE misandrist, thank you kindly)
Men are DIRTY creatures, pure and simple. Be dignified, and don’t lower yourself to engaging in any filthy behavior with them. You WILL be infected with the diseases they are carrying. A moral, dignified woman does NOT rut like an animal with one of these creatures. Sexual intercourse and oral sex are filthy, disgusting activities, and ruin a woman morally. They spread disease.
Elevate yourself above such filth of the flesh. …
Do not lust after men in your mind. Masturbate only as a last result to relieve tension. Do not lust after men sexually. It weakens you.
Goddess made woman in Her image, and men was made in the image of Satan. Squeal all you want, but history proves me right. A man is a test; a stumbling block for woman. Our life is an adventure. A journey. A pursuit of our creator, and a pursuit of excellence in our personal lives. A man and his filth is part of the obstacle course set before us. If we are wise, and avoid them, we will grow stronger as a result. We will finish the race successfully.
Men was not put here to support us as such, and we will only grow stronger if we AVOID his snares. ..
Christine in Oregon
Woah. Critics of Man Boobz often say that feminists are “just as bad” as the guys I quote. Well, if they were, the posts on their blogs would look a lot like this regendered post. I ask all of you: have you ever seen something so grotesquely misandrist on any feminist web site? I thought not.
Here’s a challenge for all of you: See if you can come up with a regendered post that tops this one from “Christine in Oregon.” You can draw from old posts of mine, or go poking about in the manosphere yourself. Post your results in the thread below, along with a link to the regendered web page you got them from. I’ll highlight the best in a future post.
If pregnancy is, ER, stealing a man’s sperm, shouldn’t women be not just allowed but required to abort if the guy disappears? And shouldn’t it be allowed if the guy consents?
(Not that I support this. But to follow him down the Crazy Brick Road.)
No Graham, I never have.
If you’re going to ask stupid questions I’ll have to assume you want stupid reply’s.
Luke123: Ah.. an someone with numbers in his handle proves to be innumerate:
We have never said men aren’t victims, what we have said is that women are the most common victims
# In 2008-09, the highest rate of incidents of domestic abuse per 100,000 population among ffemale victims</b. was for those aged 22 to 25 years, where the rate was 4,920 incidents per 100,000 population.
# Among male victims, the highest rate of incidents of domestic abuse per 100,000 population was for those aged 26 to 30 years, where the rate was 753 incidents per 100,000 population. This has changed from 2007-08 where males aged 31 to 35 who were seeing the highest incident rates (667).
So the rate of female victims (in the largest, but not total classes) is about 500 percent higher.
Looking at Statistcal Bulletin on Violent Crimes for Scotland the article (written by a woman) was based on…
What was your point? We see that the absolute number of male victims has gone up, but the rate of male on female violence has stayed the same, which means more men are also committing abuse.
I didn’t realise it was a stupid question. 🙁 I’m sorry, NWO, I didn’t mean to hurt you.
@Mr. Slave,
No, I’m not talking about being kicked (that’s called assault, not a bodily function), or getting sick. For a foetus to be born a female will ALWAYS have to be pregnant. No one HAS to be sick or get kicked in the balls to make a baby get born. I’m asking does a male human contributes an extra bodily function to a foetus, the same way a female human does? A female human contributes an egg and the “bodily function” of pregnancy. What bodily function does a male human contribute besides a sperm?
NWOsilly, stalking a woman while she’s having a meal does not count as having dinner with her.
“No Graham, I never have.”
Honesty isn’t stupid, slaveman. It’s okay. We already knew that about you.
@Graham
I had dinner with a feminist once. I made a bologna sandwich of here. But it tasted too bitter.
So I fed the rest to the cat, who didn’t want it either.
Wait, is Luke Wuntuthri admitting that he killed and ate a woman? That’s a pretty bold admission, even for an MRA.
Marc: Psychological… harm… doesn’t… count?
FUCK YOU AND THE HORSE YOU RODE IN ON.
Yes it doesn’t count.
There are abundant examples where you can inflict enormous psychological damage on someone. Few of them are punishable (like defamation). And not a single one of them is punished as severe as rape.
QFT. Marc, if you believe that, you have also forfeited the right to be taken seriously.
Why? I never said, rape shouldn’t be punished. Of couse it’s bad and you shouldn’t do it. But it definitively should be punished much less than blinding someone or beating them to a pulp. You just can’t lock somebody up for a decade for rape.
Should people who engage in bullying to the point of causing real harm be punished? Yes. Is it practical (i.e. is can we show a causal link, and move from there to make a charge; such as second degree murder)? Not really.
It’s really not about if rape should be punished. It’s only about “how severe?”.
But let’s extend you analogy. You say that merely having sex with someone against their will isn’t a harm (vagaina’s were meant to have penes put into them from time to time: which is an Aristotlean argument for the telologic purpose of genitals, but I digress), and so no actual harm was done.
There is no clear forensic method to distinguish rape from consensual heterosexual intercourse, so it is absolutely possible to rape someone without causing objectively observable bodily harm.
So, if I defraud Warren Buffet, or Mark Zuckerbrg, or Bill Gates out of… oh, lets say, one million dollars, or the Federal Gov’t, of a couple of hundred million, it ought to be about as big a deal a speeding ticket, right? They can afford it, after all, I’ve not done any real “harm”.
No.
Psychological harm is subjective and extremely difficult to measure. It’s interesting enough that Captain Bathrobe question was about gay rape (and he presumes that I’m straight) instead of an example of a woman forcing a man to have sex with her (nobody would assume real psychological harm there). That really says a hell of a lot. He’s the one who forfeited the right to be taken seriously, not me.
And your argument is a strawman. Of course there’s real harm for Bill Gates if he loses a few million, financial harm, he really lost the money. You can check his account and there really, objectively is less money because of the fraudster. Maybe he doesn’t care and there’s no psychological harm or there at least shouldn’t be much psychological harm. But that’s no problem for me because I cannot value psychological harm that much anyway.
So your examples support my position not yours.
So, you can have your, “natural” law, and live in a place where revenge is more likely, or you can live under the rule of law.. and be denied the ability to rape with legal repercussion.
That’s a totally different argument. First I don’t have the desire to rape anybody and I don’t want to make rape “legal”. Also it’s not possible to opt out of the law.
The point is: I would (until someone gives me a cogent argument why rape without bodily harm is more serious than bullying someone into suicide) support a reduction of the punishment for rape. I think rape is overrated as a crime.
@pervocracy
The question was quite simple, but I’ll try again.
Here’s the scenario. A man and a woman both consent to sex. The sex was agreed upon by them both, however in no way did the man consent to his reproductive capability. Conception takes place. Does the woman have carte blanche over his reproductive material of which they both contributed equally?
Pecunium – I think Luke123’s point was that the number of male DV victims is rising and so the evil feminazi government is doing something about it, because they hate men?
Marc, the silkscreen place called. Your DECRIMINALIZE RAPE tee-shirt is ready.
NWO: So… the law says assault did take place. Here, I’ll quote it, again:
240. An assault is an unlawful attempt, coupled with a present ability, to commit a violent injury on the person of another.
and the jury instructions:
@Mr. Slave,
Slave man, Slave man, *ahem* Does a male human contributes an extra bodily function to a foetus, the same way a female human does? A female human contributes an egg and the “bodily function” of pregnancy. What bodily function does a male human contribute besides a sperm?
Crap… blockquote fail.
re reproduction: Pregnancy is a foreseeable consequence of sex, just as getting cut/burned while working in a kitchen is a foreseeable consequence. No special protections, other than a reasobable diligence on my part is required in either case.
If a woman (or man) actively misrepresents her/his status as infertile, then it is arguable that a financial obligation could be avoided, but absent a provable act of malice, fucking can lead to pregnancy, and he knew the risks when he stuck it in.
You know, it occurs to me that you are correct when you say you should be thanking us… this sort of private tutoring in ethics, law, arithmetic, history, philosophy; and even religion, would be very expensive if you had to pay for it.
Um . . .
So . . . the man has to agree beforehand to allow his sperm to impregnate the woman, or it doesn’t count?
You’re right, Bee. This is just gibberish.
@Pecunium
Do you think that women should be allowed abuse back in retaliation, and advocate for special treatment in court to forgive them if they do ?
Because that is what the feminist organization Praxis is doing.
NWO – By your logic, she would HAVE to abort.
By mine, she’s the landlord of her uterus and can keep or evict the tenant as she sees fit.
Also, if you don’t consent to “use of your reproductive capability,” keep your capability under latex.
Luke123:
“I had dinner with a feminist once. I made a bologna sandwich of here. But it tasted too bitter.”
I see what you did there: You tried to make a joke, but it didn’t work. What you should have said is:
“I had a feminist for dinner once. In a sandwich, but it tasted too bitter.”
Because the joke is in the double meaning of “having someone for dinner”. If you say you “had dinner with someone”, there is no double meaning, so the rest of your witticism is redundant.
Honestly, this is basic stuff, Luke.
@Pecunium
No violent injury has taken place. A pregnancy was aborted. There was no injury. None. Zero pain was inflicted. She was asleep while the 1 week old fetus was aborted. She didn’t know it happened. The doc had to tell her she was no longer pregnant. The BF/hunsband told her he used X material to accomplish the abortion. She never felt it or knew.
Is that clear enough?
Holly, you seem to understand what Silly is saying. Can you explain it to me?
@Mr. Slave,
SLAVE MAN!
Does or doesn’t a male human contributes an extra bodily function to a foetus, the same way a female human does? A female human contributes two, the egg, and the pregnancy. What bodily function does a male human contribute besides a sperm?
@pervocracy
If a woman doesn’t consent she can also keep it under wraps. Unless a woman isn’t held accountable? Is that the case?
Actually, Marc, I would argue that a woman raping a man is just as harmful as a man raping a woman. Also being anally raped is equally bad whether the victim is straight or gay. Non-consensual sex is and should be a serious crime. I’m glad I live in a society where that is the case–in theory if not always in practice. If that means you don’t take me seriously, well, I won’t lose any sleep over it.