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Stare me up, stare me down

That bitch in the white boots -- what the fuck is she staring at?

Women truly are devious creatures.  Over on MGTOWforums.com, a young fellow named Deano exposes yet more evidence of their accursed misandry: the dreaded stare-and-sneer!

Let’s let him explain:

[M]any women have trouble making eye contact when they approach a man who they know to be perfectly harmless and friendly. As they come within the range where a male acquaintance would simply look you in the eye and nod or say “Hi”, our female friends will stare down and sneer as if you’re a giant slimy turd they cannot bare to look at.

I confess I haven’t run across this so much, but let’s take him at his word: this happens ALL THE TIME! What’s even worse, those pretty princesses often do this even after you’ve spent the whole morning Going Your Own Way helping out cute girls in case this might lead one of them to give you a blowjob.

You may have just gone out of your way earlier that day to fix her hairdryer or carry something heavy up 10 flights of stairs but all of that is forgotten when she sees the opportunity to show what a sulky little bitch she really is.

But Deano is ready for them.

I like to point at the spot they’re staring at as I walk past – as if I have some special powers to direct their gaze. I don’t do it all the time, but it can be piss funny especially when other guys watching are in on the joke.

In your face!

Surprisingly, the story got a bit of a mixed reaction from the other fellows over there. Stonelifter, a true blue MGTOWer, responded with a terse:

I don’t have female friends

Dr. Poon, a medical doctor Going His Own Way who for some reason seems to have specialized in the ickiest parts of a woman, was a bit more supportive:

It is counter-intuitive, but you are doing everything right.

NEVER avoid a woman’s gaze, let HER break the eye lock first and look to the side or to the ground. The establishes DOMINANCE on your end and SUBMISSIVENESS on hers.

LivingFree has a simpler approach:

I usually avoid looking at them during passing. I dont want to give them any impression I value anything about them.

Exactly! That’s why, whenever I spot a girl, I run and hide in a bush. Totally puts them in their place.

I am glad I gave up that whole feminism thing yesterday. I am learning so much about these foul creatures I used to worship.

EDITED TO ADD: I found the picture above here. I added the little red arrow.

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Sarah
Sarah
13 years ago

I know I certainly wouldn’t hold up under that kind of scrutiny. *sigh*

filetofswedishfish
13 years ago

Bee, clearly, women accuse men of rape and the court system springs into action! No medical testing, no police action! It’s obviously just our word (solid gold, bee-tee-dubs) and our word alone. That is, until it comes to the definition of rape. Then it’s luke#’s, and not a bitch can say otherwise.

Ami Angelwings
13 years ago

OMFG Sarah’s story is AMAZING, everybody should read it! (and Johnny Pez’s too if you haven’t)

I. feel so happy (and humbled) that ppl are making stories from the cards and the world I hinted at thru the cards 😀

Pam
Pam
13 years ago

Rape is rape when actual violence or force is used.

And in cases where something like, say, slipping some Rohypnol into a person’s drink is utilized in order to assault someone who would be too incapacitated to fight back, would you consider that actual violence or force… or would that fall under the false accusation category, since there probably wouldn’t be any physical indications of either violence or force?

luke123
luke123
13 years ago

“And in cases where something like, say, slipping some Rohypnol into a person’s drink is utilized in order to assault someone who would be too incapacitated to fight back, would you consider that actual violence or force… or would that fall under the false accusation category, since there probably wouldn’t be any physical indications of either violence or force?”

No. That is clearly force. Also with the unconcious women.

Ami Angelwings
13 years ago

Are ppl believing in the aMiRA idea of rape investigations again? where it’s just *point* he raped me! and that’s it? -_o;;

xD

Also last call… should I wear angel wings or not? 😀 (i worry they’d get awkward in a club or something and I’d start smacking ppl xD )

PosterformerlyknownasElizabeth

What force?

Law: unlawful violence threatened or committed against persons or property.

There is no violence with the person who is lying on a bed-they are not moving at all and there is no need to hold them down, push away their hands or otherwise make them move against their will-they are inert.

PosterformerlyknownasElizabeth

Yes and take pictures.

Victoria von Syrus
Victoria von Syrus
13 years ago

I can’t just tell. That’s why it needs to be investigated, and not just believed on the accusations alone.

Do you really have that poor an understanding of the U.S. legal system?

luke123
luke123
13 years ago

“Are ppl believing in the aMiRA idea of rape investigations again? where it’s just *point* he raped me! and that’s it? -_o;;”

Well, just a ‘point->he raped me’ was enough for him to lose his position as IMF chief,
and also until today his chance of running for president.

PosterformerlyknownasElizabeth

He still may not be able to run for President of France because um, hello he may have done it, there still has not been a trial.

luke123
luke123
13 years ago

@Elizabeth

Do you think you can penetrate an unconcious person without forcing something?

luke123
luke123
13 years ago

“He still may not be able to run for President of France because um, hello he may have done it, there still has not been a trial.”

And all this on accusations alone.

PosterformerlyknownasElizabeth

Someone does not know how vaginas work.

luke123
luke123
13 years ago

But in any case, in France they seem the think he might have a chance after today.

mediumdave
mediumdave
13 years ago

Ha ha ha! Classic, bog-standard rape apologist BS from luke123. Badly played, lad! If you want to maintain your “reasonable middle ground” pose here, this ain’t the way to do it. We’ve heard all this before; dontcha think?

PosterformerlyknownasElizabeth

So he has to not run for President this year. How has that “ruined his life?” He has lots of money, his wife has not filed for divorce, his kids have not broken all ties, he still has the opportunity to do lots of meaningful work even if he was sitting at home.

So again, outside of not running Prez, where has his life been destroyed?

Sarah
Sarah
13 years ago

Ami, I’m so glad and flattered that you liked my story! And I am still pro-wings! And I second the pictures idea. *nods*

PosterformerlyknownasElizabeth

In fact, since the judge released all conditions, he could leave the country and stay away from the US for the rest of his life.

Which means if he did sexually assault this woman and does that-he gets off scot free while she has to live without justice for harm done her.

Victoria von Syrus
Victoria von Syrus
13 years ago

Someone does not know how vaginas work.

Gee, how surprising, that a self-described MRA would have absolutely no clue about how a woman’s body works.

“He still may not be able to run for President of France because um, hello he may have done it, there still has not been a trial.”

And all this on accusations alone.

Seriously, you’re arguing in bad faith.

Woman goes to police station, and reports a rape. She describes what happens. They do a rape kit, which, from what I’ve been told, is entirely unpleasant. If there is enough evidence, the police make an arrest. And then there is an investigation, by the DA to decide if there’s enough evidence to prosecute and also by the defense, to try and get the client off.

Here’s a fact for you: According to RAINN, about 60% of rapes go unreported. If she does make a police report, there is only a 50/50 chance that an arrest will eventually be made. That’s a far fucking cry from your made up scenario of ‘he raped me—> DOOOOM!’

luke123
luke123
13 years ago

“So he has to not run for President this year. How has that “ruined his life?” He has lots of money, his wife has not filed for divorce, his kids have not broken all ties, he still has the opportunity to do lots of meaningful work even if he was sitting at home.

So again, outside of not running Prez, where has his life been destroyed?”

If that is the feminist position, then I’ll happily be an anti-feminist.
Also good to learn that an unconscious persion cannot be raped.

luke123
luke123
13 years ago

“Here’s a fact for you: According to RAINN, about 60% of rapes go unreported. If she does make a police report, there is only a 50/50 chance that an arrest will eventually be made. That’s a far fucking cry from your made up scenario of ‘he raped me—> DOOOOM!’”

Which is exactly why this smells so much like a setup.

As Naomi Wolf argues: http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2011/05/23/a-tale-of-two-rape-charges/

Sarah
Sarah
13 years ago

Luke, you are so incredibly special. Just… really. I have words for how willfully ignorant you are being.

luke123
luke123
13 years ago

“In fact, since the judge released all conditions, he could leave the country and stay away from the US for the rest of his life.

Which means if he did sexually assault this woman and does that-he gets off scot free while she has to live without justice for harm done her.”

If there is reasonable doubt about his guilt, he has to be let go. That’s basic justice.

PosterformerlyknownasElizabeth

Oh wow! I just have been appointed the Ultimate Feminist by Luke.

Therefore anything I say is the feminist position for every woman on the planet! You may leave offerings at the front door.

Seriously though-1. an unconscious person can be raped-no consent=rape. Your definition fails to allow for that Luke. Especially since a woman’s vagina does not require force to be penetrated. It is specifically adapted to part to admit a penis (or from the other end of it a baby.) So if a woman is lying on a bed, she is not being forced-because there is no force involved. But there is also no consent. Therefore under the proper definition, she is raped. Under yours, she is not. See the picture now?

2. He cannot run for a political office-boo effing hoo, a politician will not drop dead from it despite their histrionics. His life has been changed-yes. This is true. It has not, however, been destroyed and *gasp* if he did it, then he should not be running for office. You seem to assume that if a guy is accused of rape, first we have to put the accuser on trial first then we can try the accused. Sorry it does not work that way.

What is next-demanding that all accusers of rape be thrown in jail along with the accused until trial? Just in case s/he may have been lying?