Women truly are devious creatures. Over on MGTOWforums.com, a young fellow named Deano exposes yet more evidence of their accursed misandry: the dreaded stare-and-sneer!
Let’s let him explain:
[M]any women have trouble making eye contact when they approach a man who they know to be perfectly harmless and friendly. As they come within the range where a male acquaintance would simply look you in the eye and nod or say “Hi”, our female friends will stare down and sneer as if you’re a giant slimy turd they cannot bare to look at.
I confess I haven’t run across this so much, but let’s take him at his word: this happens ALL THE TIME! What’s even worse, those pretty princesses often do this even after you’ve spent the whole morning Going Your Own Way helping out cute girls in case this might lead one of them to give you a blowjob.
You may have just gone out of your way earlier that day to fix her hairdryer or carry something heavy up 10 flights of stairs but all of that is forgotten when she sees the opportunity to show what a sulky little bitch she really is.
But Deano is ready for them.
I like to point at the spot they’re staring at as I walk past – as if I have some special powers to direct their gaze. I don’t do it all the time, but it can be piss funny especially when other guys watching are in on the joke.
In your face!
Surprisingly, the story got a bit of a mixed reaction from the other fellows over there. Stonelifter, a true blue MGTOWer, responded with a terse:
I don’t have female friends
Dr. Poon, a medical doctor Going His Own Way who for some reason seems to have specialized in the ickiest parts of a woman, was a bit more supportive:
It is counter-intuitive, but you are doing everything right.
NEVER avoid a woman’s gaze, let HER break the eye lock first and look to the side or to the ground. The establishes DOMINANCE on your end and SUBMISSIVENESS on hers.
LivingFree has a simpler approach:
I usually avoid looking at them during passing. I dont want to give them any impression I value anything about them.
Exactly! That’s why, whenever I spot a girl, I run and hide in a bush. Totally puts them in their place.
I am glad I gave up that whole feminism thing yesterday. I am learning so much about these foul creatures I used to worship.
EDITED TO ADD: I found the picture above here. I added the little red arrow.
In a word, yes. When they say “smile!” on the street, we’d have to, because gawd forbid we be having anything other than pleasing some random dude going on in our headspaces.
“Andrea Dworkin was weird. Therefore, feminism is bad.”
Feminism name is badly tainted by some truly disturbed figures, who have not been massively and publicly denounced.
There a reason why someone who doesn’t want to be associated with the wrong things would call his movement ‘National Socialism’, for example.
The last sentence should read ‘would not call his movement…’
Double negatives… :-/
Hey gang, did you know that famed MRA Warren Farrell has written articles about why sexually touching your children is a good idea? Just thought I’d let you know!
Bee, seriously? Gross!!
YMMV, luke123. If you wish to disregard the many times in Andrea Dworkin’s earlier life in which she was raped, because allegedly later in life, while having health problems, she mistakenly believed that she’d been assaulted… you are free to. But that would make you a smug asshole. And you’d still be making a false equivalence with her and the MGTW’ers.
And Godwin’s to boot! You’re on a roll, luke!
Honestly, I don’t even get what these guys are bitching about. Women won’t make eye contact? This is a tragedy? Huh? I mean, if they were bitching about not getting poon after fixing the hairdryer or whatnot, I could at least sort of relate in that it sucks to not get sex when you were hoping for sex. But I seriously don’t get why they need to make a federal case out of a lack of eye contact.
“I like to point at the spot they’re staring at as I walk past – as if I have some special powers to direct their gaze.”
… That’s like waving at someone and, when they respond in kind, thinking you have the power to control their arm.
The only time this has ever happened to me was that one time I stalked that girl for a few weeks. The sneers I got from the other girls when they figured out what was going on told me right quick that I was not doing the right things to get positive female attention. Luckily by the time we got to high school most of the girls seem to have forgotten about it.
Snowy: Unfortunately, yes.
Or, more accurately, when he was interviewed for an article about incest, he talked about why parents touching their children sexually is often good, and was writing a book about the same.
Not that it matters to this conversation, of course. I just thought we were sharing juicy tidbits about gender-issues writers.
Wow. As if I wasn’t paranoid enough about dealing with people.
I think some people need realize that not everyone deals with interaction with strangers and acquaintances in the same manner. Some people are more shy than others, myself very much included in this, and making eye contact with someone who isn’t a friend is really difficult to do for me. Even if I really want to talk to and interact with someone, it can take awhile to even work up the nerve to smile or say hi, especially when I’m alone. And it’s not just with guys, it’s EVERYONE. It has nothing to do with being submissive or any other bull crap or thinking someone is out to get me. I, as well as some others I know, sometimes just have a hard time interacting with those we don’t know… I’m not going to go to therapy to change it either… I’m fine the way I am and I don’t live to feed anyone else’s ego… / rant…
First time commenting here. I read lots though 🙂
Oh GROSS! Pass the brainbleach please.
Why, thanks, Bee, and yes, I had read about that a while back. But why are MRAs not massively and publicly denouncing him as the truly disturbed figure that he is instead of massively and publicly promoting his works?
“But why are MRAs not massively and publicly denouncing him as the truly disturbed figure that he is instead of massively and publicly promoting his works?”
Because he’s their hero!
See? That totally burns my buns! I mean I go and fix my female friends hair dryer and she totally doesn’t put out! And by “fix” I mean “break beyond all possible hope of reparing” because I’m pretty inept at anything beyond the most basic ‘Guyvering of things.
And by “female friends” I mean “I have no female friends because I keep breaking their stuff and expecting sex”
What were we talking about anyway?
Wait… really? Warren Farrell? He always seemed like one of the vaguely sane ones…
First sensible thing you’ve said in this thread, luke! Now why is he their hero? Could be that parent-child incest is a terrific way of exploiting an unequal relationship and asserting control. For guys who see their children as possessions to be used, rather than as human beings with rights, that’s magic. Ergo, Warren Farrell, MRA hero.
“Vaguely” sane being the operative word, ozy. 🙁
Because wanting the sexes to be treated as equals is exactly the same as willfully murdering over 11 million people.
@mediumdave
Maybe you should ask the catholics. They seem have a lot of experience in that area.
Oh, ha ha. Deflection, five yards.
Be serious or don’t bother, luke.
Yes, that much is obvious. Funny, though, that they blame feminists for society’s suspicion of men who are/want to be in close contact with/vicinity of children, when it’s one of their very own heroes that advocates indulging in the behaviour for which men tend to come under such unwarranted scrutiny.
Hey. Hey guys. I have something completely off topic to tell you. I just wrote the first part of my Magyc fanfiction! =D
http://sardoodledum.livejournal.com/6457.html
Also, it has taken me a long time and a lot of effort to learn how to make appropriate eye contact. I’m still working on it, really…
Looks like French presidential candidate Strauss-Kahn was set up by political rivals. The rape allegation was a fabrication. The “victim” had already used a fabricated rape allegation in the past for personal gain:
“Prosecutors said the woman admitted lying in her application for asylum in the United States and that she had been a victim of a gang rape, providing details of that attack. She cried when she first told prosecutors about the rape but in a subsequent interview, she admitted the gang rape never occurred. She said the fabricated account on the asylum application was made with the assistance of a man who “provided her with a cassette recording of the facts” so that she could memorize them.”
The false accuser also had numerous bank deposits into a hidden account, and numerous phone calls using two secret cell phones, just before the false accusation.
The evidence of a political set-up is mounting.
Feminists have made rape into such a one-sided issue that a man accuse of rape is ruined for life, even if it is later shown that it was a set up. The false accuser will certainly never be prosecuted, and in all likelihood will continue to make a living off of this false accusation for years to come.
So, what are the odds that Christine Lagarde will gracefully step down and allow DSK back into the IMF? She has already begun implementing her feminist agenda of tying IMF bank loans to compliance with the feminist agenda of gender dominance. Only in a gelded world can the head of the IMF publicly blame the world financial meltdown on masculinity:
“Founding fathers … Founding fathers not mothers, notice. Regrettably there was no woman at the table at the time”.
Can you imagine a man who blames women for the “Great Recession” elected to head the IMF, with a bigoted sentence like this:
“The world can no longer afford expensive entitlement programs for women … for women, not men, notice: 73% of all Medicare/Medicaid dollars are spent on female beneficiaries, while the majority of contributions are made by men.”
It sounds to me like they’re not talking here about the random-person-on-the-street thing, where avoiding eye contact seems relatively reasonable. Especially in large cities. I simply CANNOT make eye contact with every person I pass while walking from the train to work because there are too many of them!
I do generally look up though if I’m not lost in my thoughts and if I see a familiar face I’ll nod in their direction, assuming they’re also looking at me at the same time. If they pass close enough by I’ll say “hi” and if I know them a little bit better than just a totally-in-passing acquaintance I might stop to exchange a little “how are you”. Sometimes I’m sure I miss people though, it’s totally not personal. I kinda think this is how most people operate around city spaces. I don’t really notice a lot of people walking along staring at the ground. I dunno where these guys live, maybe it’s just an odd local custom.