Hark, a vagrant, as I may have noted many times already, is pretty much the most hilarious comic in the world at the moment. So recently the comic’s creator Kate Beaton got together with some of her cartoonist pals and did a bunch of cartoons featuring a gang of superheroines called the “STRONG FEMALE CHARACTERS.”
Someone linked to them in Reddit’s Men’s Rights subreddit. Take a look at the comments. The cartoons seem to have, well, confused the Men’s Rightsers just a little bit.
“True, but according to commenters here, that just doesn’t happen to women! And if it does, it’s because the asshole actually has a heart of gold. And nice guys are always monsters on the inside. Or something.”
Ion, nobody actually said that. Did you think that if you waited a little while everyone would forget that we just had this same conversation with you?
See, you said:
“I never used the word “nice”. I said “cheerful, normal guy” versus “brooding asshole”. I don’t know about social stereotypes, those seem pretty self-explanatory to me…”
And then darksidecatsaid:
“someone could be “cheerful” and “normal” (the latter term, btw, is all about matching certain social expectations) and be and asshole or be “brooding” and be a good person. Cheerful vs brooding, shy vs outgoing, tattooed vs non-tattooed, weird vs normal, smart vs not so smart-none of these things tell you whether a person is a bad person or a good person. They tell you something about a person’s character, and maybe you happen to like to spend time with cheerful rather than brooding people, but these traits do not tell you whether someone is a good or bad person.”
And then you said:
“So what you’re saying is that women are attracted to dark, brooding assholes only when they realize they’re actually good on the inside, and are repelled by cheerful normal guys when they know they’re really not so good?”
And then darksidecat said:
“again, the brooding is disconnected from the bad behavior (abuse and cheating), and the chubbiness is disconnected from any good behavior (none in particular is mentioned). You are linking things that really have nothing to do with each other. Are you honestly trying to suggest that cheerful clean cut people do not commit abuse? Because that is flat out nonsense.”
So either you’re a total moron or you’re purposefully misrepresenting darksidecat’s argument.
probably the former Snowy.
Phone lines are open! Vote now! xD
Wait, there is in fact a third possibility. Both!
Actually I am dating a really nice guy-as in an actual kindhearted good person.
Good for you. Funny how personal anecdotes are totally relevant when they support your position, but otherwise, it’s suddenly “well, that’s just a couple of people! like THAT’s supposed to prove how the world works! *snort of derision*”
Anyway, Ion-your female friend was nice and you like her as a person and all that but she ignored the chubby guy because he was not what she found attractive in his personality? It seems that she had no issues with the weight-she had issues with him not being strong/dominating.
I think it was a bit of both, actually. And she pretty much admitted she liked Roommate Guy from the beginning because of his ‘bad boy’ vibe and ‘not giving a shit’ attitude. And no, chubby guy never talked to her about his feelings because she was in a relationship and he respected that.
Are nice females not allowed to have preferences?
Of course they are. In this case, she preferred the jerk. End of story.
Those Megan Fox quotes are awesome. I used to think she was hot as long as she didn’t try to speak. Now I realize maybe she should be allowed to speak, just not to recite lines.
Okay, talking srsly now xD And moving to my favourite topic: me xD
I have an actual question to ask ppl since we’re talking about dating, and ppl have various theories :3
So I’m gonna be prolly seeing the guy I like at this big thing tmrw… what should I do to let him know I’m interested? (I think he alrdy is, but I have trouble telling, I could elaborate if ppl want :3 ) Should I actively do things, or would that scare a man off? How should a girl act? :3 Afterwards there’s prolly gonna be a party and clubbing xD Should I invite him there or to go someplace alone, or should I not even be taking the initiative? 😮
Of course they are. In this case, she preferred the jerk. End of story.
But you said she eventually broke up with the jerk….?
Ppl use anecdotes to disprove universals that others state XD not prove universals xD
@Victoria it’s the end of the good part of the story xD after that she moved on and had a spin-off series that wasn’t so successful xD
Wow, Snowy, you totally caught me. You win the thread and stuff.
Who are you again? (besides apparently a smug intellectual douche who gets off on ‘winning’ internet arguments).
So 1. She like a guy who was strong/dominating. That is what she is attracted to. In this one instance the strong/dominating type turned out to be abusive. 2. She is responsible for the fact he was a jerk to her and everyone else. 3. Because of this, she is responsible for your other friend’s falling in love with her?
Is there anywhere that the other people are going to be given their own responsibility in this matter or is it all just the woman’s fault?
Ami, take the initiative. If it’s going to be a hectic scene at the march (if he’s at the march in the first place, he sounds cool and I don’t think you’d scare him) and after, ask him if he’d like to go out sometime just the two of you. It’d be pretty hard for him not to catch a clue after that (and he’d be silly for not digging you)! Good luck!
@Ion, I was ‘vicious’ because so many people here are TRYING to politely explainin things to you, but you refuse to listen.
I’ll say it again: your belief that “women want assholes” is anecdotal at best, MRA excuse-making at worst. Dope.
Thanks for feeding the troll, by the way. <3
Duh, it’s always our fault.
What is w/ Ion’s passive aggressive thing? XD Is he always like that? XD (Ion hasn’t shown up that much since I started here) I like to learn about the trolls :3
Also, back to me:
Any advice? 😀 (also this is the same guy who I talked about before asking if a guy would go out w/ a girl clothes shopping on the spur of the moment after work when he’s rly tired and wants to go home and sleep if he didn’t like her xD )
Really? Intellectual is an insult now?
I left you some upthread a bit.
Ion: Of course they are. In this case, she preferred the jerk. End of story.
It would be the end of the story, if you hadn’t tried to use it as an exemplar of your theory that women are all hot for “broody” men, and don’t like “nice” ones.
@hellkell ty! 😀 that’s a good idea :3 I always get kinda nervous that initiative scares ppl and I’m always so happy and boppy IRL and he’s so laidback (which is sooo hot xD ), I always worry “omfg I’m gonna ttlly freak him out!” XD
Anytime, Ami! I don’t think you have to worry, since this is the guy who went shopping with you.
Ami, this is what you have to do. If you find yourself sitting next to him on a couch, yawn and stretch your arms over your head and then when you put them down again put one around his shoulder! This is a very subtle technique that few people know about.
So 1. She like a guy who was strong/dominating. That is what she is attracted to. In this one instance the strong/dominating type turned out to be abusive. 2. She is responsible for the fact he was a jerk to her and everyone else. 3. Because of this, she is responsible for your other friend’s falling in love with her?
Well, 1 is correct. 2 and 3 are just straw men/your own interpretation of things. Honestly, this has gotten tiresome and I have better things to do* than go on with a pointless argument.
*like start a new one 😛
@Snowy XDDDD That amused me greatly XD
Well try not to show up wearing a “Please MARRY ME TONIGHT” shirt. It might give him the wrong impression.