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Kate Beaton confuses the Reddit Men's Rightsers

 

From Hark, a vagrant. I photoshopped a little.

Hark, a vagrant, as I may have noted many times already, is pretty much the most hilarious comic in the world at the moment.  So recently the comic’s creator Kate Beaton got together with some of her cartoonist pals and did a bunch of cartoons featuring a gang of superheroines called the “STRONG FEMALE CHARACTERS.”

Someone linked to them in Reddit’s Men’s Rights subreddit. Take a look at the comments.  The cartoons seem to have, well, confused the Men’s Rightsers just a little bit.

 

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Ami Angelwings
13 years ago

@Darksidecat actually it’s about a combination of dart board throws and Ami’s fickle feelings day to day xD Like right now.. you’re a bad boy XD Even tho you’re not a boy! Oh wait, now you’re a bad cucumber! xD

Hmm… now I have an idea XD I think I’m gonna make a chart of Ami’s guyrarchy rankings XD Watch it be the most accurate thing evar XD

Ion
Ion
13 years ago

Also that he’s jealous of MRAL XDDD (mind you he’s been jealous of the attn I get too xD so this could be par for the course XD)

Ami, you’ve been uncharacteristically nasty lately (not to mention wrong on this account – only an insane person would be jealous of MRAL). I guess it really cheesed you off that I uncovered your obvious sockpuppet before you could have fun with it. But the “all y’all haterz r just jealous” line is weak even for you. XD XD

Ami Angelwings
13 years ago

o_O i’ve pointed out your jealousy before XD this isn’t the first time you’ve been this way o_O

I am amused you’re using the symbol of teh Ami tho XD

Arielle
Arielle
13 years ago

I love the cookie one.

Lawl @ MRAs’ pathetic attempt at “understanding” the material.

Ami Angelwings
13 years ago

Whenever a troll snaps they seem to break into the XDs thinking it bugs ppl as much as it bugs them XD MRAL did it.. NWO did it… now Ion xD Teh Rodeo Cat gets to all XD

Ami Angelwings
13 years ago

Hrm… I’ve eaten (finally -_- stupid compulsive exercising 🙁 ) now I feel bad : You did mention that you didn’t “get” the humour here that much :

I didn’t mean for you to feel like somebody was being “nasty” to you : I was just amused 🙂 (like I am now XD ) by your reactions, stuff about MRAL and the theory xD that’s all… : But I always feel bad when it seems like I’ve hurt someone… so I’m sorry :]

*BIG HUGS* 😀

Ion
Ion
13 years ago

I wasn’t aware that a couple of mild comments equal me “snapping”… whatever makes you feel better, I guess. I’ll just leave you to your crazy, then, and back away slowly. From what I’ve seen, you don’t really need other people to keep yourself entertained anyway.

XD XD 😛

Ami Angelwings
13 years ago

o_O that was weird…

darksidecat
13 years ago

@Ion, someone could be “cheerful” and “normal” (the latter term, btw, is all about matching certain social expectations) and be and asshole or be “brooding” and be a good person. Cheerful vs brooding, shy vs outgoing, tattooed vs non-tattooed, weird vs normal, smart vs not so smart-none of these things tell you whether a person is a bad person or a good person. They tell you something about a person’s character, and maybe you happen to like to spend time with cheerful rather than brooding people, but these traits do not tell you whether someone is a good or bad person.

Ion
Ion
13 years ago

Posted before you put up the last comment. Don’t worry about it, on the scale of being flamed, your stuff is barely a blip. I was actually more amused than anything that you’d describe me as ‘jealous’ or ‘snapping’. It’s like being attacked by a puppy. 😛

Ion
Ion
13 years ago

darksidecat: So what you’re saying is that women are attracted to dark, brooding assholes only when they realize they’re actually good on the inside, and are repelled by cheerful normal guys when they know they’re really not so good? Not my experience, but to each his own. I guess my former roommate who slapped his girlfriend around, treated her like a servant and cheated on her multiple times was really a good guy on the inside. And the chubby guy who was in love with her but she completely ignored must’ve been some kind of monster. Women have such penetrating insight into men’s souls.

darksidecat
13 years ago

@Ion, again, the brooding is disconnected from the bad behavior (abuse and cheating), and the chubbiness is disconnected from any good behavior (none in particular is mentioned). You are linking things that really have nothing to do with each other. Are you honestly trying to suggest that cheerful clean cut people do not commit abuse? Because that is flat out nonsense. People who look like this http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&safe=off&biw=1280&bih=610&q=goth&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.&wrapid=tlif130943396769510&um=1&ie=UTF-8&tbm=isch&source=og&sa=N&tab=wi are not automatically more likely to be abusers than people who look like this http://www.google.com/search?um=1&hl=en&safe=off&biw=1280&bih=610&tbm=isch&sa=1&q=preppy&oq=preppy&aq=f&aqi=g10&aql=undefined&gs_sm=e&gs_upl=58402l59928l0l8l7l0l1l1l0l207l894l1.4.1l6 If anything, the latter will be more likely to get away with abuse because they are treated with less suspicision by many.

KristinMH
13 years ago

Yeah, Ion, darksidecat is right. Manners do not equal morals.

You can be perfectly polite to someone in person and arrange their murder behind their back. (There was a lawyer in my hometown who did this – upstanding citizen, pillar of the community, great networker, seemingly nice guy. He hired a hitman to murder his wife.) You can be rude and gruff to someone and later give them money to pay for their cancer treatment.

It’s also possible to be a rude person as well as a bad person, but the connection is incidental, not causal.

Of course, it’s great if you can be polite in person as well as moral in your actions, but not everyone has the same social capacities. If you have to pick only one, go with the second.

Call it the one good thing I learned in Catholic school. XD

KristinMH
13 years ago

Also abusers and psychopaths are often very charming. From Jon Ronson’s The Psychopath Test:

“I don’t know. Maybe it is because I really want people to like me. So I learn how to please people. I never disagree with anyone. I make them feel good so they like me.”
“Isn’t that a weakness?” I finally said. “Your desperate desire to have people like you. Isn’t that a weakness?”
“Ah no!” Toto laughed. He animatedly waved his finger at me. “It’s not a weakness at all!”
“Why?” I asked.
“I’ll tell you why!” He smiled, winked conspiratorially, and said: “If people like you, you can manipulate them to do whatever you want them to do!”

KristinMH
13 years ago

TAG FAIL!

hellkell
hellkell
13 years ago

Feminist Mai almost got me, nicely done. I was wondering if we’d been reading the same site for a minute.

I really don’t think MRAL qualifies as a dark and brooding bad boy that women are lining up to fix. He got good advice that just about anyone with his problems would get here until he proved himself to be a violent squirt.

mythago
13 years ago

And the chubby guy who was in love with her but she completely ignored must’ve been some kind of monster

Ah yes, these stories about Bitches Who Love Jerks always have the shy, unconventional hero she unfairly shuns because, you know, women!

Why was the chubby guy in love with her? I mean, she’s a fucked-up broad who has a thing for psychopaths, right? Why wasn’t he in love with the chubby girl who he hangs around with and thinks of as ‘just a friend’? Oh, right: because people you want to fuck ought to have lower standards for sexual partners than you do. /eyeroll

Pecunium
13 years ago

Lets see… goth boys are broody. Most of the one’s I’ve met aren’t assholes (perhaps a bit overwrought and full of themselves, but most of them were also pretty young, so).

Frat boys are usually cheerful. A lot of the one’s I’ve met are assholes. They are pretty young too, but oddly enough a large number of them seem to keep that youthful trait, while the goth types get less broody.

Bee
Bee
13 years ago

I like the detail-lite anecdote as evidence that an experience shared by two men and one woman is proof of How Life Is. I guess as long as we’re doing that, let me share that, in my experience, self-proclaimed nice guys, and guys who hang around waiting for the implosion of a relationship so that they can get a little something afterwards usually aren’t all that nice, and can even be downright nasty. The only time I was ever stalked was by a “nice guy.”

So, it makes me a little curious about the details about these people you’re using as an example. The chubby guy was chubby and in love with your roommate’s girlfriend, but was he also this guy? And while I can’t guess as to the girlfriend’s mindset, I will point out that guys, too, fall in love with cruel people who cheat on them. The myth that this is a key female trait seems to overrely on our society’s patience for listening to heartsick self-appointed Nice Guys.

All that aside, I’m happy to hear that Ion specifically dislikes my sense of humor. Phew! The Bee’s still got it! Ha cha cha cha!

filetofswedishfish
13 years ago

Well, Bee, I’m think you’re g-damned hilarious. But your humor is like mine. So.

speedlines
speedlines
13 years ago

I’ve lost count of how many “cheerful” people I’ve met who’ve turned out to be total fakes. They usually have deep emotional problems that they’re hiding, or they’ve gotten sucked into the cult of Positive Thinking. I’d much rather deal with grouchy people; at least they’re less likely to be in denial about anything. Plus, if they turn out to be decent folks I’m pleasantly surprised, and if they’re bona fide assholes I can write them off without feeling like I’ve been hoodwinked.

Bee
Bee
13 years ago

Thanks, filetofswedishfish! Right back atcha! We can both be proud that Ion just don’t get us. That’s gotta be a good thing.

cynickal
cynickal
13 years ago

Kes, I like: http://www.gabbysplayhouse.com/?p=1457

On female heroes, this is a great deconstruction of the costumes: http://rosalarian.tumblr.com/post/2325861377/dressed-to-kill
(I think it’s already been posted here)

ithiliana
13 years ago

Hellkell: seconded that MRAL is not “dark and brooding bad boy” as I understood it (though I supposed that could be my age). DBBBs=do not talk about all their problems in great detail. They LOOM and GLOOM and are MYSTERIOUS and BROODING (NOT talking) (trying to avoid broody chicken joke here).

The whole emo “let me talk about all my problems” masculinity where angsty younger men (edited ‘boys’ out for ageism on my part) talk about all their problems–NOT what I see as DBBB.

Ami, do we need a DBBB card????????????

This game is INFECTIOUS!

ithiliana
13 years ago

Oh, classic DBBB: Heathcliffe.