“Kloo2yoo,” the moderator of Reddit’s Men’s Rights Subreddit, is worried that racists in his subreddit will give Men’s Rights a bad name. So he’s put out a call to some of the more artistic readers of the subreddit to come up with a nice new logo for it, to show how broad-minded and all-inclusive Reddit’s Men’s Rightsers really are. Well, not literally all-inclusive. As Kloo put it in his call for artiistic help:
New logo needed, to emphasize racial and lgbt inclusiveness, but not feminism.
Oh, but even that turned out to be a bit too inclusive for some of the commenters there. Specifically, they objected to the “L” portion of LBGT. And some of the Ts. As white_cloud put it:
I don’t think you need to appeal to the L in LGBT. It is well-known that lesbians are the most radical of all feminists. They will never feel welcome here and we should not go out of our way to make them feel welcome. Male to female trans pretty much the same thing. They’ve already renounced their male gender, they don’t care about male rights
Scott2508 concurred:
ok i am in favour of inclusivness and im not sure if i am going to word this right so stick with me , the one thing i am curious about is how we bring ourself in line with the lesbian [angle] of it all simply due to the hostility that can arise from that community towards men
Kloo replied:
point taken. we can embrace lesbian mras, without embracing lesbian supremacists.
Apparently these are the only types of lesbians in the world.
In any case, despite these design constraints, I have come up with what I think is a very compelling logo that I think will convey just what Kloo would like to convey. What do you think, guys?
[NOTE: THIS COMMENT ORIGINALLY QUOTED A THREATENING COMMENT FROM MRAL, WHICH I HAVE SINCE DELETED. MRAL IS NOW ON MODERATION –DF]
Yup restrained and reasonable, just like the rest of the MRM…
You know, it is not slander if it is true.
No, towards Julie Bindel, who is just a worthless shit, absolutely worthless, value-less, stupid, fucking worthless human being. I wish I had been old enough to throw a bash when Andrea Dworkin died. I’ll make up for it by doing it for Julie Bindel in 20 years or whatever.
You said the MRM is an “Abuser’s Lobby”. I am not an abuser. Your lies are thus slander, and if you were not anonymous you would be on the receiving end of a lawsuit.
I’ve been quoted and misquoted by both MRAL and NWOSlave. I feel like I’ve been christened or something. Like I’m finally more than just another lurker getting lulz.
And for who was wondering- my ambitious giant dingdong failed, hard. Came out of the pan in 6 pieces. It’s still delicious, though, and I’m making cake pops for both home, and for FoSB to take to the office. Marines will eat that shit up.
MRAL, are you *sure* you weren’t the one who made threats at Hugo’s a few weeks ago?
http://hugoschwyzer.net/2011/04/06/mra-i-p-addresses/
I didn’t misquote you, in fact in your response you explicitly AGREED that men’s issues were unimportant. This is classic feminism.
I’ve never posted on Schwyzer’s blog. Also, I would never use that Jewish slur.
“Penetration from a cock simply leads to an ascended level of sex.”
Citation needed.
Actually, I recently read a theory that said the g-spot was clitoral tissue, making all orgasms technically clitoral orgasms. I’ll have to try to find that paper…
Fake penises for fake people. And lesbians wonder why no one believes they exist.
MRAL, there is such a thing as abusive words. You may not be a physical abuser, but you don’t hold back on your words. Someone who’s not anonymous, like Julie Bindel, for example, can’t feel particularly safe when some anonymous MRA is threatening to “break her fucking nose”.
“I didn’t misquote you, in fact in your response you explicitly AGREED that men’s issues were unimportant. This is classic feminism.”
You quote-mined. The deleted text changed the context dramatically.
Actually that’s a lie, I did post once. He made mention of it too, in another “MRA IP address” post, like a few weeks later. But not that one.
Arksibalt, I just can’t take anything you say seriously. I do believe I’ll put you next to NWOslave in the Troll file.
Filetofswedishfish: Noooooooooooooo! I am teh sad. I’m glad the cake turned out delicious, though.
I think it’s past time MRAL was encouraged to seek somewhere else to post his violent outbursts and other brain droolings.
Speaking only for myself, I couldn’t possibly care less about his problems insofar as they do not become someone else’s problems.
I don’t really give much of a shit how Julie Bindel feels, she clearly doesn’t care about how men feel.
The threats are from an e-mail he received. And the violent nature of the threats fits you to a T. And you have railed against Hugo here.. At some point, everything stops being a coincidence.
Well, Mr. Al, you’re in luck. Schwyzer wasn’t talking about a posted comment. He was talking about a buncha emails he had gotten from a BU location. Have you sent him emails?
Okay, let’s stop talking about Julie Bindel and me and go back on topic. I’m sorry for derailing, I didn’t mean to. I just lost control for a few minutes.
MRAL- You quote mined me, and left out some really valuable context in order to make me sound like some sort of bad person. Essentially, you didn’t post my entire quote, you left out the parts that didn’t suit you, and, dare I say, *cherry picked* the parts you would respost. You got my quote wrong. You misquoted.
As to the OP: why, exactly, would LGBTQ people need to join the MRM, anyhow? Don’t these guys realize there is already an entirely separate, successful, awesome LGBTQ movement, all on its own?
The MRM is widely known as the Abuser’s Lobby in the court system and among those who work with Domestic Abuse situations, like social workers. I did not coin that term. None of the writings that are posted in any of the MRM websites refute that assessment.
MARL, you have repeatedly posted violent fantasies here. I stand by my contention that the only thing that stands between you and the label domestic abuser/violent assaulter is a relationship or an opportunity to bash someone without being seen.
It is not a lie if it can be shown to be true.
Bee- Yeah, only about half the cake went into the cakepop filling. I keep grabbing little pieces of the rest of it every time I walk through the kitchen. It is moist, chocolatey, and delicious.
No, I haven’t sent him emails. But as I said, I did post on his site once, in like April or something. I didn’t even think it was that bad, but he, being a fucking idiot, flipped out and deleted my comments and even posted an IP address. In fact that’s one of the reasons I hate him. I think I could actually pursue legal action if I knew how.
Also, MARL, you lied by omission earlier in the thread, so by your own standard, you should be sued for slander, apparently.
http://hugoschwyzer.net/2011/04/10/more-hate-spam/
Was this you? The Maine RR ip-address?