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Happy Pride Day, non-existent gay men!

Well, you're no lady. But I guess you'll do.

Today, as many of you no doubt know, is Gay Pride Day. Here in Chicago, that means the annual Pride Parade, a celebration of all things LGBTQetc — and a nice aerobic workout for parade participants. (Gyrating on a float for three hours dressed in a leather harness and thong will burn roughly 1000 calories. But beware of chafing!)

Rookh Kshatriya, proprieter of the Anglobitch blog (devoted to the notion that women in the Anglosphere are, well, bitches), has evidently decided to celebrate Pride Weekend by offering us all his theories on gay male sexuality. Which is to say, his theory that there is no such thing as gay male sexuality, and that all those gay men out marching today would much rather be spending their Sunday eating bagels and doing the New York Times crossword puzzle with some comely (non-lesbian) lasses.

Yep, in Rookh’s World, gay men – or, as he puts it, “gay” men — are actually nothing more than exceptionally horny straight men who have been unfairly denied sex-on-demand with women of their choosing.

Let’s let him explain this:

Despite their rhetoric about lifestyles and the contemplation of flowers, gay men are clearly entranced by orgasm to an extent far surpassing that of heterosexual men.

Alas, in our Feminazified world, women sometimes refuse to have sex with men. Deprived a natural outlet for their sexy urges, horny dudes have to, well, improvise a bit. Why try to finagle your way into a vagina assiduously guarded by some dumb lady, when other dudes just as horny as you have holes of their own available for the asking?

As Rookh  sees it, these uber-horny dudes really have no other choice.

[A]re most gay men just hyper-sexualized males – a self-selecting group whose priapic urges can only be satisfied by rejecting the relative sexual deprivation inescapably attendant on heterosexuality? The more one considers this possibility, the more plausible it seems. Even some badass with the looks of Apollo, the Game of Roissy and the confidence of a warlord would struggle to enter a nightclub and say: “I want sex NOW!” and expect to get it.

A terrible, terrible injustice. But there is a way out:

Yet homosexual men can enter any gay bath house in any Anglosphere city, say the very same words and expected to be sexually serviced by several men in a matter of minutes! In short, the sexual mismatch between the sexes makes the heterosexual lifestyle a poor option for any hyper-sexualized male – a non-option, in fact, if he wants to fully slake his sexual thirsts. By contrast, adopting homosexuality allows him to instantly indulge his every sexual whim in every manner conceivable.

Unless, of course, these whims involve sex with, you know, women. But lust is apparently stronger than mere sexual orientation. As Rookh sees it, homosexuality is the only rational choice for uber-horny men – even if they’d rather be boning women.

Since sex is so scarce and difficult to acquire in a heterosexual context, it simply makes no sense for an Anglo-American male with priapic urges to remain heterosexual – hence the self-selection of hyper-sexualized males towards homosexual lifestyles, not to mention the hyper-sexualized nature of homosexuality itself.

Is this all a prelude to a touching coming-out announcement by our man Rookh?

No such luck. It’s actually an excuse for, yes, more feminism-bashing. For it is the evil feminists who, in Rookh’s world, have been  encouraging the “female sexual ostracism” of poor suffering straight men:

As we all know, women seek to control men by limiting sexual supply, be it representational (pornography) or actual (prostitution) – and that feminism is, essentially, an institution created for that purpose.

And so, in Rookh’s world,

homosexuality has advanced in lock-step with feminism. … [F]eminism – by assailing marital monogamy and allowing women to indulge their primordial attraction to dangerous thugs, moronic bullies and swaggering plutocrats – produced an unwanted ‘rump’ of educated, economically stable but sexually disenfranchised males. Given that gay males are disproportionately intelligent, solvent and educated, it is fairly obvious that members of this group have opted for homosexuality as a means of escaping the living death of involuntary celibacy, that the two phenomena are in fact closely related and that feminism is directly responsible for the advancement of homosexuality across the Anglosphere.

Feminism, by encouraging women to say “no” when they don’t actually want to have sex, may have created modern homosexuality, in Rookh’s view. But that doesn’t mean that feminists actually like gay dudes. No. Ick!

[T]he vast majority of Anglo females detest gay men as vehemently as they hate men in general.  … the real link between pan-Anglosphere feminism and homosexuality [is that] the latter is a reaction to the former, which hates it with boundless counter-reactionary zeal.

Yeah, seems to me that the only one here who really “detest[s] gay men” is, well, Rookh, so much so that he’s decided to completely erase gay male sexuality – to put “gay” in scare quotes – in order to give himself another opportunity to run down feminists and women in general.

Now, human sexuality is a weird, messy, complicated, wonderful thing. It may well be that some bisexual men end up having sex with men more often than with women because they find it easier to find male sex partners for casual sex. But guys who are thoroughly gay – who would score a 6 on the famous Kinsey scale – don’t actually want to have sex with women. They really don’t. Drop a beautiful, eligible, horny (straight or mostly straight) woman in the midst of a bunch of Kinsey 6 guys, and this is what you get:

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PosterformerlyknownasElizabeth
PosterformerlyknownasElizabeth
10 years ago

Now we know what to get you for your birthday Pecunium, a LOOM!

Magpie
Magpie
10 years ago

The injured sportsman thing is cruel. Having knee reconstruction and then being expected to go out and play rugby and so on. You wouldn’t do it to a dog!

footnotegirl
footnotegirl
10 years ago

Coming very very late to the party:
@MRAL – My husband is 5’8″ (actually, a little under probably) and not cut. I of course find him to be the sexiest man alive, which is why I married him, but I would say that he falls under greek system as probably a low beta (short, podgy but built like a barrel, balding). Granted, I’m a fatty fatty mc fat fat Omega woman, but before me he dated (and bedded) quite a few ladies, some I have met and many more I have seen pictures of, who were all quite attractive. I know lots and lots of guys who are not paragons of either height or fitness who date and socialize and are in relationships.. heck, some of them with multiple partners!

@Ilithiana GET AN IPAD. Seriously. I know it’s more expensive, but not only can it use all the various different ereader abilities (including access to both the nook and kindle stores) but it is much, much easier to download and use library ebooks on an iPad than on other readers (you can download directly from the library on your ipad, whereas with a Nook, Sony, Kooba, and eventually Kindle, you have to download it to your computer and then upload it to your reader). PLUS you can do all the other things on it that ereaders can’t do or can’t do as well (calendar, email, IM, organization, etc. etc). Get a wifi one, not a 3G, and it will be cheaper /and/ no data plan.

Ami Angelwings
10 years ago

@Magpie *nods* that’s happened w/ me too, I got a lot of compliments in that vein too when I started to lose tons of weight : and I never want to tell nebody about my ED, cuz I’m afraid it’ll encourage THEM, or guilt them into starving themselves (“look I can do it, what’s your excuse? :” ) and like… they tell me how good I look and how healthy… even tho I can barely walk up stairs, and if the temperature isn’t in the mid 20s I’m FREEZING.. and I felt half alive most days 🙁

Ami Angelwings
10 years ago

I think also w/ telling ppl… I dun tell ppl about my ED : oddly I feel more ashamed of it and scared to talk about it than I am w/ other things (except maybe 2 other things : and that’s about the details) jsut cuz I feel like… saying I have an ED feels like whining.. that it’s like “oh so you CAN eat, you just dun want to” or like I made up my own problem or etc : it feels like I’m just making a big deal out of nothing or that if I tried hard enuf I could just stop it 🙁 and it’s something I did to myself (which is true) and so how can i talk about it like it’s a problem? 🙁

Magpie
Magpie
10 years ago

Ow – poor Ami! Do the complimenters even LOOK at the person they’re talking to? Or is it a habit, it’s ‘the right thing to say’?

M Dubz
M Dubz
10 years ago

@ Ami- I’ve totally noticed that “no pain no gain” thing too. It ties back into treating women as if they shouldn’t take up space. Anyone who focuses on their needs, wants, etc. is somehow a bad person. Personally, I blame a culture of Protestant (esp. Purtianical) denialism from back in the 19th century where self-sacrifice was considered a virtue. Which is why I’m glad I’m a Jew 😀

Magpie
Magpie
10 years ago

and if you tell a bloke you have an ED, all he says is ‘i’d fuck you!’, as if it’s all about HIS penis.

Ami Angelwings
10 years ago

@Magpie I dunno what ppl see when they look at me : and I’m sry I wasn’t meaning to make it about me or fish for sympathy but ty *and big hugs to you :3 *

i’m worried i’m talking way too much about me : i think i’ve held this in a lot 🙁

@M Dubz yeah… i think that does have a lot to do w/ it :

Lyn
Lyn
10 years ago

Magpie – it was mainly my family that was going on about how great I looked…when I lost about 10 kilos cos I was suffering from depression. Yeah. Way to reaffirm the self-harm as a healthy outlet!

M Dubz
M Dubz
10 years ago

@Ami- Oh sweetie, the Jewish mother in me just wants to give you all the hugs. And I know you know this in your logical brain, but YOU ARE NOT COMPLAINING ABOUT A TRIVIAL THING. Your ED is totally something that is worth talking about, and you deserve all the sympathy in the world, because IT IS NOT YOUR FAULT. YOU DID NOT CHOOSE THIS.

Magpie
Magpie
10 years ago

Ami – you’re not making it all about you. You’re giving us all a chance to talk and think about it.
M Dubz – ‘self-sacrifice is a virtue’ … do you reckon people care about what the sacrifice is for, or is it just an end in itself?

Lyn
Lyn
10 years ago

Ah – yes. It IS all about penises, magpie. It’s like the argument that you should accept your body (particularly if you are overweight) cos men would like to fuck you! They like ‘cushin for the pushin!’ Bah.

Magpie
Magpie
10 years ago

Lyn – your own family? who know you better than anyone? They see you crook and say ‘oh, you’re looking good”?

Magpie
Magpie
10 years ago

Lyn – “give her a slap and catch the first wave in” – bah!

Ami Angelwings
10 years ago

@Lyn I’ve seen that in lots of youtube stuff where a girl talks about being concerned that she’s overweight or something and guys comment saying “I’d fuck you!” or “you’re sexy, not like those anorexic bitches” (is it possible to compliment a woman without insulting another woman?) or etc : as if that’s what it’s all about (NWO def thinks we think this way) 😐

i also see on stuff where girls just vlog (and dun mention nething about body image) it’s all about guys in the comments debating whether she’s somebody they want to do or not :

Lyn
Lyn
10 years ago

That was actually your argument – I mean when Cosmo does those stupid polls on what men want to promote more body acceptance. Uh – not the point. Penises are not the centre of the universe.

M Dubz
M Dubz
10 years ago

@ Magpie- There’s a lot of lip service being paid to it being in pursuit of career, family, relationship, etc. but sometimes I just think American culture doesn’t want to have too much genuine fun (but still! you should totally buy lots of shit! gaaah)

Magpie
Magpie
10 years ago

It’s like the ‘dressing slutty’ thing. There’s six billion people in this world, mate, but only one of them takes your penis into account when they get dressed!

Lyn
Lyn
10 years ago

Oh ew. That joke is not ok!

And, to be fair to my family, they didn’t know I was crook. I didn’t even tell them I’d broken up with my partner (which, combined with a series of other things, set off my depression)…one of those ‘being self-sufficient’ things. Also, my family hadn’t liked my partner so I expected lots of ‘well, he was an asshole anyway’ responses which would have been difficult to deal with if we’d gotten back together. And my mum didn’t say anything like that – she was anorexic when she was younger and always worries when my sister or I lose weight!

Magpie
Magpie
10 years ago

yeah, being ‘self sufficient’, not wanting to let them or yourself down, not being able to judge whether you need assistance, or what assistance you need, so it gets away from you (this is me i’m talking about). Not realising that the family want to help, even, but are not sure what to say because you’re so prickly … ain’t depression fun?

Lyn
Lyn
10 years ago

Yup. And the ‘I’m a terrible person, so how could I even countenance burdening them with my irritating self…’ Depression ftl 🙁

Magpie
Magpie
10 years ago

Oh yeah. On a brighter note, I just bought a train ticket to Melbourne! For the middle of October. What’s good in Melbourne? besides the shopping and the zoo and the markets and the museum and the shopping and ACMI and the coffee and the shopping?

Kate
Kate
10 years ago

footnotegirl, how do you feel an ipad stacks up for reading outside and for battery use? (real question, not a “my techy’s better than yours” I promise!)

Sarah
Sarah
10 years ago

Hi guys! I feel like it’s been forever since I’ve posted! I’m so sorry. D=

I really want to keep up with you guys but I’ve been really busy with my new job and stuff. I have worked so many hours this weekend. -.-

Um. I’m, not really sure I have anything on topic to post. Except I’m really pretty pretty drunk. Haha. Yeah. I’m totally drunk-posting here! =D

*hugs* to everyone with an ED. I used to purge in high school. I never really lost any significant weight because of it. I think it really was an issue of punishing myself for being bad, rather then weight loss. But I still hated how I looked. *sigh*

I am sure you are beautiful, wonderful people! <3

Johnny Pez
10 years ago

Not a problem, Sarah. I know all about the new job stress. So much to learn, and so many opportunities to screw something up.

Lyn
Lyn
10 years ago

I think you’ve listed the highlights! Tho – the Melbourne Museum is hosting an Egyptian history thing that looks pretty awesome…

Sarah
Sarah
10 years ago
Sarah
Sarah
10 years ago

Ok. I can’t make links. Let me try again.

Sarah
Sarah
10 years ago

NEVER MIND I FAIL AT LIFE IT’S BED TIME

OHSHIII
OHSHIII
10 years ago

It never fails to surprise me that these types just assume there is a shortage of women who will have sex with them. It’s more that they want to fuck 10s, and there IS, predictably, a shortage of extremely physically attractive people. There is no shortage of willing women, because even the less-than-perfect desire sex (and lots of it). Hell, if even that ain’t enough, that’s what human evolution blessed you with two hands for. — Which is why this explanation MAKES NO SENSE WHATSOEVER. If a guy is that horny, (and if all gay sex is just the “jailhouse” desperation to get off driving men to do somethong they would normally find horrible), then it would stand to reason that these so-called gay men would simply be swooping in and making short work of all the average, older, and ugly women in any given scene. Regularly. Or that they’d corner the market on fleshlights and lube. Or anything not requiring the sexual company of other men, if, as the OP claims, there is no such thing as same-sex attraction, and gay men all feel the same uncomfortable arousal/disgust that Rookh does when he thinks of getting it on with another man.

Magical Laura
10 years ago

Bit late, but:

“Who knows what they do in their bedrooms?”

According to lesbians/bi women I know, they FUCK.

“Then you think rape is about sex and not about power after all?

Why do they hate them? Difficult question. Maybe we should ask Ruby Thomas, she beat one to death?”

I don’t know what every rape is about. When I was raped the guy wanted sex and I didn’t, and it progressed from there, so I guess it was originally about sex. I don’t really give a fuck why he chose to do what he did, I could spend my life thinking about what I could have done or what his motivations were, but judging by the reaction of him and his friends afterwards, it was obviously some kind of bragging right and not just wanting sex.

Also, you’re ridiculous. By your logic men all hate women because Ted Bundy. Once again, instead of answering a question, you ask another one which isn’t relevant.

Magical Laura
10 years ago

“And despite the posturing on this site, almost all the boyfriends mentioned are tall. Bunch of fucking hypocrites.”

My boyfriend is 5’7, I don’t really think about height as a priority but I guess I am attracted to tall guys more often. It just isn’t relevant to me and my boyfriend, we like the same movies and rpgs and we make each other laugh, and we are very attracted to each other. I’m 5’5 and probably your ‘moderately attractive beta’, but when we met I was a good 30lb overweight. Didn’t make a difference to our relationship, nor would anything become any better if my boyfriend grew in height.

He’s shorter than you, and he has had girlfriends before me that I’d consider ‘alphas’. He doesn’t have a problem with his height, and neither does anyone else.

Magical Laura
10 years ago

Ami, I’m a bit shy to talk to you as a lurker, but I think you are really pretty and funny and I am jealous of your personality 🙂

Spearhafoc
10 years ago

What’s good in Melbourne?

It was briefly going to be called Batmania, after its founder: John Batman.

That’s all I got.

Ami Angelwings
10 years ago

:O thank you o: I dunno what to say xD But you shouldn’t be jealous! :] I put my cape on one shoulder at a time, like everybody else :3

also *big big hugs if you want them*

filetofswedishfish
10 years ago

Ack. I work and go to one lakehouse party this weekend, and there’s a shitload of new, creepy/scary stuff. Is that guy in the other thread going off on *me* for doing yoga? I had a hearty lul at that. I wonder if he realizes there’s actually a decent number of dudes who go. Lots of them are older men who spent the better portion of their lives doing either high impact exercise, or high impact, physical work, whose bodies really can’t handle it anymore. Yoga is a way for them to carefully and gently do a little low-impact repair. Or if he realizes that my boyfriend goes with me- he’s a weightliftin’ meathead(sometimes) Marine. I wish we had a forum or an open thread (like Jezebels’ Groupthink. I miss posting there). if I set up an IRC, would people use it?

kilo
kilo
10 years ago

Also, now that I’m thinking about it, have you ever thought of taking up ballroom dancing? I swing dance, and men of average height and shorter have a definite advantage for various reasons of reach and the speed of the music. Also, in swing dancing (and there’s some great swing dancing in Boston), there is a culture of dancing with everyone who asks, as long as that person is not a proven asshole. Go take some lessons, politely ask some girls to dance, and use it as an opportunity to meet people without any sexual pressure. Seriously.

I partially agree with this. On the one hand, swing dancing is among the most fun things you can do; swingouts are awesome. MRAL, if you like music and movement, try it for some time. Don’t worry about not having a dance partner, most classes rotate and are happy to see new guys. Don’t worry about dancing not being masculine. Don’t worry about being bad at it, most people are at the beginning and its hard, but you’ll improve much faster than you realize, and followers tend to be supportive and friendly. Not starting to dance earlier (due to the reasons I mentioned) is something I regret; don’t be like me.

On the other hand, don’t expect it to solve your problems, or end your celibacy. Depending on what your ‘deficiencies’ are it may help, but it very well might not change anything at all. Do it because its fun, not because you expect anything more from it, because that might very well prevent you from having the fun in the first place.

And a quick remark on the weight thing. In my experience, heavy women (and probably men, but I have less experience with that) occasionally have a more difficult time to get comfortable with the movements, but after that they are amazingly fun to dance with, I assume because they are often really good at building momentum and dynamic. More power to you, I guess.

Ohiken
Ohiken
10 years ago

So essentially, women are EXTRA mean for purposely staying fat to prevent the boners of beta and omega men and keeping those poor sods “involuntarily celebate” by reducing the cock sock pool even further?

Pecunium
10 years ago

I like swing (west coast… Hey ami… I also do various sorts of ballroom dance).

SallyStrange
SallyStrange
10 years ago

I like swing too, but I found it via contra dancing. I think someone else here mentioned liking contra dancing too… it’s a great way for socially awkward people to get used to interacting with other people and touching them. Low pressure, simple steps, everyone is very friendly and eager to show newbies the ropes. And you get to dance with nearly everybody in the room. And it’s perfectly acceptable for women to take the men’s part in the dance, or vice versa. Some contra dances even supply a box of ties, available for gender-switching or same-sex dance couples, to make it clear who’s taking which role. It’s also acceptable — expected even — to ask strangers to dance all throughout the night, and be accepted. If you can’t get people to dance with you at a contra dance then you either have massive halitosis (and even this doesn’t always stop people, in my experience) or you are a huge jerk (ditto).

There’s often swing dancing or Scandinavian couple dancing, or both, in between sets at a contra dance. This is the best video I could find… I believe it’s from Greenfield, MA.

ithiliana
10 years ago

AJ: You’re on LJ? Me too! Wanta friend???

Ami: Email me sometime–I’d love to talk more and in more private spaces. rrede13 AT yahoo.com!

Comments on food, weight, obesity, social perceptions–one thing totally connected to class is “food deserts”–i.e. if you live in inner city urban neighborhoods or in rural areas or small towns, the food available to you is MUCH different than in wealthier areas. I knew that intellectually but didn’t realize it until I moved to rural Texas and saw what was available in the two grocery stores in town in terms of produce and such. There’s also pricing: one example, look at the cost of fresh fruit vs. fast food (high in carbs, sugars, fat). The system we live in offers vastly different food choices depending on your economic class and income.

I did not keep my resolution to not check in here until this evening. I am bad. So bad.

ithiliana
10 years ago

footnotegirl–Hmmm, I’d have a sort of reflexive negative response to the IPad probably because of the advertising, but you make some EXCELLENT points.

Moves IPad, wireless, to top of list!

Thank you!

Victoria von Syrus
Victoria von Syrus
10 years ago

Oooh, I absolutely *love* swing dancing! The first boyfriend I ever had was really into swing and ballroom dancing, and I enjoyed it whenever we went to his favorite dancing place. First dude I ever slept with, too.

footnotegirl
footnotegirl
10 years ago

Kate:
I don’t read a whole lot in the sunlight. When I’m in the sunlight/outside I’m usually doing other things. It probably wouldn’t be great for beach reading, but due to sand+water, I don’t know that any eReader is great for beach/pool reading. Battery life, especially when I’m using the Nook app and can have a black screen with white type, is loooong. 10 hours of continuous use? More?
Ithiliana:
Reflective as I noted above is probably only an issue in direct sunlight. I do most/all of my reading indoors and/or at night. For reading at night (like when my husband is asleep) it’s actually much better, as the backlighting makes it actually possible to read without an attached light. Also, due to personal eye issues (which I recognize most people don’t share) the extra contrast afforded by an actual black on white/white on black screen (as opposed to e-ink readers grey and black) makes it possible for me to read at all.
Also, when trying out the nook and kindle, I found myself no end of frustrated at the time it took to turn pages. Not an issue with the iPad.

Comet
Comet
10 years ago

I’m pretty much just a lurker, but from what I’ve read, I’d like to dedicate a song to MRAL

(And don’t think I’m automatically calling you an idiot just because of the song title. But this song’s inspired me to get over myself after wasting far too much of my life wallowing in real/imagined woez.)

Bee
Bee
10 years ago

Mr. Al:

(If you’re still around) I was listening to Terry Gross in the car today, and they had a little tribute to Peter Falk by replaying an interview from 1995. She had him talking about what it was like to grow up with a glass eye for the last several minutes. Thought you might find it interesting, especially his attitude about it.

amandajane5
amandajane5
10 years ago

@ithiliana – you have a new friend! See if you can guess who it is! 😉 And yay! You write LOTRips! *eg* I haven’t been active in almost a year, but I keep telling myself that I’ll come back – I don’t have a permanent account for nothing!

ithiliana
10 years ago

footnotegirl: I cannot be in direct sunlight for long because of heatlh problems, so that’s not an issue–and I’d much prefer white on black for reading ease. I was checking out wifi Ipad today, and plannning on saving up the money over the next few months–they look great. Thank you!

I should have trusted COLBERT!