Today, as many of you no doubt know, is Gay Pride Day. Here in Chicago, that means the annual Pride Parade, a celebration of all things LGBTQetc — and a nice aerobic workout for parade participants. (Gyrating on a float for three hours dressed in a leather harness and thong will burn roughly 1000 calories. But beware of chafing!)
Rookh Kshatriya, proprieter of the Anglobitch blog (devoted to the notion that women in the Anglosphere are, well, bitches), has evidently decided to celebrate Pride Weekend by offering us all his theories on gay male sexuality. Which is to say, his theory that there is no such thing as gay male sexuality, and that all those gay men out marching today would much rather be spending their Sunday eating bagels and doing the New York Times crossword puzzle with some comely (non-lesbian) lasses.
Yep, in Rookh’s World, gay men – or, as he puts it, “gay” men — are actually nothing more than exceptionally horny straight men who have been unfairly denied sex-on-demand with women of their choosing.
Let’s let him explain this:
Despite their rhetoric about lifestyles and the contemplation of flowers, gay men are clearly entranced by orgasm to an extent far surpassing that of heterosexual men.
Alas, in our Feminazified world, women sometimes refuse to have sex with men. Deprived a natural outlet for their sexy urges, horny dudes have to, well, improvise a bit. Why try to finagle your way into a vagina assiduously guarded by some dumb lady, when other dudes just as horny as you have holes of their own available for the asking?
As Rookh sees it, these uber-horny dudes really have no other choice.
[A]re most gay men just hyper-sexualized males – a self-selecting group whose priapic urges can only be satisfied by rejecting the relative sexual deprivation inescapably attendant on heterosexuality? The more one considers this possibility, the more plausible it seems. Even some badass with the looks of Apollo, the Game of Roissy and the confidence of a warlord would struggle to enter a nightclub and say: “I want sex NOW!” and expect to get it.
A terrible, terrible injustice. But there is a way out:
Yet homosexual men can enter any gay bath house in any Anglosphere city, say the very same words and expected to be sexually serviced by several men in a matter of minutes! In short, the sexual mismatch between the sexes makes the heterosexual lifestyle a poor option for any hyper-sexualized male – a non-option, in fact, if he wants to fully slake his sexual thirsts. By contrast, adopting homosexuality allows him to instantly indulge his every sexual whim in every manner conceivable.
Unless, of course, these whims involve sex with, you know, women. But lust is apparently stronger than mere sexual orientation. As Rookh sees it, homosexuality is the only rational choice for uber-horny men – even if they’d rather be boning women.
Since sex is so scarce and difficult to acquire in a heterosexual context, it simply makes no sense for an Anglo-American male with priapic urges to remain heterosexual – hence the self-selection of hyper-sexualized males towards homosexual lifestyles, not to mention the hyper-sexualized nature of homosexuality itself.
Is this all a prelude to a touching coming-out announcement by our man Rookh?
No such luck. It’s actually an excuse for, yes, more feminism-bashing. For it is the evil feminists who, in Rookh’s world, have been encouraging the “female sexual ostracism” of poor suffering straight men:
As we all know, women seek to control men by limiting sexual supply, be it representational (pornography) or actual (prostitution) – and that feminism is, essentially, an institution created for that purpose.
And so, in Rookh’s world,
homosexuality has advanced in lock-step with feminism. … [F]eminism – by assailing marital monogamy and allowing women to indulge their primordial attraction to dangerous thugs, moronic bullies and swaggering plutocrats – produced an unwanted ‘rump’ of educated, economically stable but sexually disenfranchised males. Given that gay males are disproportionately intelligent, solvent and educated, it is fairly obvious that members of this group have opted for homosexuality as a means of escaping the living death of involuntary celibacy, that the two phenomena are in fact closely related and that feminism is directly responsible for the advancement of homosexuality across the Anglosphere.
Feminism, by encouraging women to say “no” when they don’t actually want to have sex, may have created modern homosexuality, in Rookh’s view. But that doesn’t mean that feminists actually like gay dudes. No. Ick!
[T]he vast majority of Anglo females detest gay men as vehemently as they hate men in general. … the real link between pan-Anglosphere feminism and homosexuality [is that] the latter is a reaction to the former, which hates it with boundless counter-reactionary zeal.
Yeah, seems to me that the only one here who really “detest[s] gay men” is, well, Rookh, so much so that he’s decided to completely erase gay male sexuality – to put “gay” in scare quotes – in order to give himself another opportunity to run down feminists and women in general.
Now, human sexuality is a weird, messy, complicated, wonderful thing. It may well be that some bisexual men end up having sex with men more often than with women because they find it easier to find male sex partners for casual sex. But guys who are thoroughly gay – who would score a 6 on the famous Kinsey scale – don’t actually want to have sex with women. They really don’t. Drop a beautiful, eligible, horny (straight or mostly straight) woman in the midst of a bunch of Kinsey 6 guys, and this is what you get:
Court’s free!
Magpie – I found this on the site M Dubz linked and it is about class and location and negotiating the body image thing: http://www.therotund.com/?p=1174 It might be of interest 🙂
@M Dubz I also know that there’s often a myth (kinda like w/ gay and trans ppl too) in other cultures and ethnicities that EDs are a white/american girl problem (also that EDs are simply a female problem) or a middle class problem, or etc : I know in the Chinese comm, growing up, it was always like OTHER ppl (read: white ppl) were gay… cuz white culture is irresponsible and they raise their kids poorly… EDs are a white girl thing.. not us… never us.. etc :
@Lyn- *hugs* for your shitty ex, and for your experience as a child. There’s something so breathtakingly cruel about people who purport to love you using your weaknesses against you, to make you hurt. I went through something similar where I was gaining weight like crazy despite diet and exercise (this was before I was diagnosed with insulin resistance), and my ex dumped me in part because of the weight gain. It took me a looooooong time to get back on track with body acceptance. And I hope you are also working towards loving yourself, because from what I can tell here, you are super awesome!
Thanks M Dubz. I’m working class, and it sort of feels like a different emphasis amongst my friends to what some of the more middle class people describe.
I apologise to everybody if I am being rude today. I missed a couple of days pills, and took one this morning. Hence commenting. And irrelevance. And incoherence. Ami, how do you write a silly, dreamy smile?
I love youse all!
@ Ami- Yeah, for real. And it’s SO not the truth. Toxic culture hurts everyone 🙁
@M Dubz the control, not take up space thing is something that I wrote alot about too during my rly bad days when I used writing to try to help myself deal w/ what was going on : Also the idea of women needing to control our desires… I mean it’s been a narrative that’s been around for all sorts of other things in other time periods too.. (and even now) women controlling their sexuality… otherwise it’ll be scary and dangerous and out of control… controlling our anger (“hell hath no fury like a woman scorned”) …men get mad, but women we either have to control it or it’ll be out there like crazy and we’ll be 100000x worse : and controlling our appetite feels very similar to the idea of women needing to watch our desires : Men get pushed the opposite way a lot too : like eat LOTS, LOTS, otherwise you’re a girl.. eating salads is for girls! meat! MEAT! (a lot of burger commercials are like this) and I always am amused by the pizza commercial that says cheeseburger pizzas are for men b/c “eating one food at a time is something girls do” : My guy friends growing up were always so concerned that if they didn’t eat all meat pizzas it made them wusses, and they would make fun of male vegetarians, or etc : (or me)
@Magpie hmmm :3 I like that one xD it’s not rly dreamy per se, but I think it’s kinda silly… it’s like a silly cat grin 🙂
@ Magpie, not being rude. You brought up a totally excellent point! Everything intersects, and makes for different experiences with some overarching similarities. Your experience with weight is not mine, is not Lyn’s, is not Ami’s, but all of us are struggling against some seriously toxic messages. And the more we talk about them, the more compassion and understanding there is. And our world is sadly in need of some serious compassion.
@Magpie you weren’t being rude. I’m sry if I came off as : I just was concerned I was being asked to be an expert on the entire thing or something :
@ Ami- oh man! I love ALL THE MEAT FOOD. Does that mean I’m not a proper lady?
@M Dubz it depends, do you eat combination foods evar? xD
M Dubz and Lyn: that link was really interesting, I hadn’t realised there could be an attitude that fat = lower class = bad. It’s the lower class = bad bit that surprises me when I read comments on the internet from US people, I don’t come across that in real life.
Ami I like the dopey cat grin :3 I’m sitting here with my dopey cat and we’re both grinning. I think I get what you mean about how ED can be about controlling at least part of your life. I don’t have words for it, but I think sometimes it can also feel like “evening things out”, to make things just, or fair. I don’t know how to express that idea.
Ami, you never come off as :/ I was meaning to ask a general question of everybody, cause we all have different experience.
@Magpie I didn’t mean that it was universal amongst everybody of course :] I was talking of me, and other ppl who have trauma and then end up w/ an ED to cope : I was just using it as an example of the simplicity of the ED narrative in our society, that it’s an ends to itself, while often it’s a means to an end :
But once you start it, once your body gets into starvation mode and you lose the hunger reflex, it becomes way more than psychological : which is something else that’s not in the narrative… it’s like the studies involving ppl in starvation mode : your mind literally focuses on food every single moment (which is why I ttlly emphasized and was very honest in it, w/ NWO cuz I rly understand that) and for me, it meant I got caught in this cycle, where focusing on food made me fele like I had to exercise more, and NOT eat more, not give in at all, and then I’d focus on food for more, and I literally couldn’t think of NETHING much every day but that 🙁 and sometimes I would break down and cry :
(that wasn’t directed at you btw Magpie, is just something that came from what I was thinking of : )
@Magpie yeah class intersects w/ these narratives a lot too 😐 in other generations and other cultures, it was the opposite… where being thin meant lower class and meant bad : cuz it meant that you couldn’t afford food 😐 (you prolly knew that alrdy :3 )
Um… now I think I might have insulted US people – sorry.
*possible trigger warning for talking about my food choices?*
@ Ami- Actually it’s really interesting, because I used to eat a more carb heavy diet, and am trying to give that up for one based on protein and veggies and whole grains because they won’t make my insulin do craaaaaaazy things. So I eat a lot of stir fry/curry/salads with meat in them type things. Just another example of how life and diet is not one size fits all. Like, if I were to eat a “girlie” diet I would be really cranky and low blood sugar-y.
@Magpie- I think a lot of the class bullshit in this country has to do with our bootstraps myth. Like, if you can’t work your way into an upper middle-class existence, there’s something WRONG with you, because you’re not WORKING hard enough. Which is just bullshit, for so many reasons.
@Magpie, in my experience, as a fat genderqueer person in the US, fat hate is worse in upperclass cultural spaces than it is in lower income spaces. I tend to be a pretty shameless fat person, but it is in wealthier spaces that an issue tends to be made of it the most. It’s not that there is never any fat hate in lower income spaces, but it is not nearly as common or as severe. Also, I am not very old (I’m 22) and I have noticed a trend towards it getting worse back home, which is a rural mostly white low income area. I don’t know if that is just the intensifying rhetoric about the “war on obesity” taking its toll. Though the poor folks still seem to define fat less stringently as well, even now. I am considered chubby in poor spaces, but very, very fat in wealthy ones. I do know one low income guy who plays the “no fatties” line who I have never seen dating a woman who weighed less than a solid 200 lbs. I am always like “dude, your current girlfriend is 5 foot and at least 250lbs, you so date fat people”. And he is consistent, he turns down any girl who isn’t heavy. It can get sort of hilarious, because the dominant (read upperclass) narrative is that fat is bad and unsexy, so they just redefine very heavy people as not fat. I am not so conscious of myself as fat, and of that as something that will be judged negatively, when I am not in upperclass spaces. In any case, poor people’s spaces feel far safer to me as a fat person.
Music time (because I am in that sort of mood recently):
Tying it in with the original subject (sort of)
A little story for no particular reason: At my work, when the women wanted to compliment me, they would say ” you’re so slim” or “i wish i was thin like you” or “you’ve lost weight”. It was meant nicely, and I took it that way, but was a little bit embarrassed. One day I quietly explained to one of my workmates that when I lost weight, it meant I wasn’t well. From then on when they want to compliment me they say “you’re looking well!”. I feel good when they say it to me, and that’s one of the things I say to others as a compliment, too.
@Ami – I hope I’m in the backlog! I did ask, but it was days ago and I don’t remember which thread.
And y’all can seriously call me AJ – my name is neither Amanda nor Jane – I should clarify my icon which has my AJ on it, but doesn’t seem to render well here, as it was designed for LJ. But that is me and my Beta? Omega? Self doing something very, very fannish. Extra points for anyone who can ID what it is. 🙂
RE: eating – I’ve become a spitter because I literally can’t swallow – neck surgery, and then the Cushing’s inflating my neck and throat, so I look at good food, think, I’ma swallow this and nourish my body! And then, I…actually can’t do that, what’s the polite thing to do?
I should get off the ‘puter for the night, but y’all are always such fun! So sleep tight all, and be careful about those bed bugs – I hear they suck.
@M Dubz something else about pulling up your bootstraps myth and that poor ppl are just lazy b/c htey’re afraid to work hard and deal w/ the pain… is that I’ve noticed that’s SO MUCH related to EDs too : and a lot of other things in our culture.. pain = work… it’s like when ppl suggest changing times for schools in order to better match teenagers’ natural sleep cycles, and ppl go THEY SHOULD JUST SUCK IT UP or SCHOOL IS SUPPOSED TO BE HARD or etc : the idea is that if you’re suffering LESS then you’re not doing something good… even tho school is supposed to be (in theory right?) about learning, and we want ppl to learn as best they can … or like in sports, where sucking up pain is good, or playing through pain (even tho you’re actually hurting the team if you’re playing w/ an undisclosed injury that hampers you)… and w/ EDs… if you’re working your way thru hunger, and denying it, that’s good.. you’re fighting through… it ties also into fat ppl being lazy or not trying hard enuf to diet, or etc : that denying things we LIKE is good… it means we are accomplishing something.. even tho sometimes it’s just absolutely meaningless, or even worse, unhelpful..
Darksidecat: Maybe upperclass fat means ‘you’re not classy’, and lowerclass fat means ‘you don’t work hard’ (left over from when most jobs were physical).
I’ve seen “No Fat Chicks” bumper stickers on utes – I just read the sticker as “I’m a Dickhead”
at amandajane5 i remember you asking, but I can’t remember nething you said about it :
I’m making a txt file to keep track now, so if you remember what you wanted, let me know
(this applies to nebody who wants a card btw :3 )
Ami: I forgot… I know how to knit. One more thing to add to my skill set. I can spin, but I can’t weave; not really. I am able to do repair sewing, but not construction.
Funny you should mention “pulling up by your bootstraps Ami: just read this on Cracked.com.
While listening to Journey which is awesome.