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Weekend Open Thread Dada Party!

Schampa wulla wussa olobo!

Welcome to the Weekend Open Thread Dada Party. Talk about whatever you want. And don’t worry if some of the words you use aren’t actual words. The Dadaists didn’t care about that sort of thing. Blago bung, blago bung. Bosso Fataka!

Click here or here to hear Kurt Schwitters read some of  his Dadaist poetry. For more on this poem, see here.

Enjoy! Or, as Hugo Ball might have put it, ba – umf.

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speedlines
speedlines
9 years ago

Peter Falk, September 16, 1927 – June 23, 2011

Height: 5’6″

Had a glass eye since the age of 3.

Hugely successful actor. Twice married.

That is all.

Tabby Lavalamp
Tabby Lavalamp
9 years ago

And don’t worry if some of the words you use aren’t actual words.

What about if people want to use actual words but not in any recognizable order? There are a couple of regular MRA commenters who may then finally start feeling at home.

Tabby Lavalamp
Tabby Lavalamp
9 years ago

And RIP Peter Falk. I may have to watch The Princess Bride this weekend…

PosterformerllyknownasElizabeth
PosterformerllyknownasElizabeth
9 years ago

I am stuck at a fancy schmancy dinner this evening…thank god for kindle apps for droid.

firebee
firebee
9 years ago

Wheeee.

My boyfriend got in an argument on Facebook (the ultimate source of facepalm) about that kid whose parents aren’t telling people zir gender. He sent me some of the words that were used by people intending to argue with him, and they were words which were arranged in valid English sentences, but aside from that….

… well, some nonsense words would be fun about now.

ozymandias42
9 years ago

Universe, I am horny and my boyfriend is FAR AWAY and this is terrible. I just felt you guys should know that.

ozymandias42
9 years ago

Also, Ami is awesome and made me a card XDXDXDXDXD!

Ami Angelwings
9 years ago

I hope you like it :3 It took a while for me to figure out the dynamic that didn’t make it unplayable xD

PosterformerllyknownasElizabeth
PosterformerllyknownasElizabeth
9 years ago

*gives Ozy a perfect replica of her boyfriend’s important bits* wow! Chicken…I know I am at a fundraiser now!

Men's Rights Activist Lieutenant
Men's Rights Activist Lieutenant
9 years ago

I was very sad to hear about Peter Falk also. One of the Greats.

hellkell
hellkell
9 years ago

Ami, the cards are awesome!

PosterformerllyknownasElizabeth
PosterformerllyknownasElizabeth
9 years ago

I just won a basket of beers (local brewery named Four Peaks)! And I do not drink 😀

Nobby
Nobby
9 years ago

Hey, blast from the past! Because I’ve totally not been around for a while, and because I’m going to bring up a probably long-dead topic: Literature!

So, anyone else read Wicked? I just finished the novel and it kinda blew my mind, not really sure what to think. Anyone else’s thoughts? I’m especially interested if ithiliana is still around, considering our talk of Baum’s work on that thread.

Also, in case people don’t know, the musical is vastly different from the book, so if you’ve only seen that don’t try to follow any potential novel conversation, as it’ll get confusing right quick.

Though the musical is also quite awesome, just to say 🙂

Nobby
Nobby
9 years ago

Also, Tactical Giraffe FTW!

Erl137
Erl137
9 years ago

SAME SEX MARRIAGE LEGAL IN NY STATE

Captain Bathrobe
9 years ago

Ami, I love, love, love my card! Thanks!

ozymandias42
9 years ago

I actually liked the musical of Wicked a lot better than the novel. The novel seemed… scattered to me, and dark more for the sake of GRIMDARKNESS than for the story. I quite liked his inclusion of Boq, though.

Men's Rights Activist Lieutenant
Men's Rights Activist Lieutenant
9 years ago

I’m playing Borderlands. It’s good, but not great.

speedlines
speedlines
9 years ago

I don’t want to read Wicked or any other Oz book not written by Baum. I’m just a purist, I guess.

denelian
denelian
9 years ago

Ami;

i am so very jealous of your talent – and the backstory is very awesome 🙂

are you going to make a full expansion? lol

Ami Angelwings
9 years ago

It’s going to take a while, but I’m working on it xD

ozymandias42
9 years ago

Speedlines: A fair opinion. 🙂 I personally refuse to listen to any songs by the horror-punk band the Misfits after Glenn Danzig left, for similar reasons.

Nobby
Nobby
9 years ago

@Ozy I actually wasn’t too perturbed by the darkness. I mean, it was about the wicked witch, i kind of expected it. And I liked it as a counterpoint to Baum’s “Everything will be okay always” style, which becomes more apparent if you read more (not sure how much of his stuff you’ve read). But I’m still kind of undecided with it, in general.

I do have to say I much preferred Fiyero’s role in the book, though. He’s good in the musical, if i recall (i admit it has been a while), but for some reason I really connected with him more in the book, though I can’t rightly explain why. Though the stalking bit was a little off, admittedly. But a little necessary in terms of plot, and it did fit the character.

@Speedlines: understandable, though I’m a little sad at such a stance, but *shrug*.

PosterformerlyknownasElizabeth
PosterformerlyknownasElizabeth
9 years ago

Has anyone else watched Spartacus: Gods of the Arena?

Ami Angelwings
9 years ago

Elizabeth do you want your card to be Elizabeth or something formerly known was elizabeth?

Ami Angelwings
9 years ago

*as

PosterformerlyknownasElizabeth
PosterformerlyknownasElizabeth
9 years ago

However you want to do it Ami, I trust your judgment…actually since I was Elizabeth on the original blog, maybe both?

girlscientist
girlscientist
9 years ago

They predicted sunny weather for this week-end and now it’s overcast and rainy 🙁

Other than that, if “Omar M’A Tuer” comes to a movie theater close to you, I can recommend it. It’s halfway between fiction and a documentary about a murder case that happened in 1991 in the South of France. The investigation was horribly bungled and they arrested the victim’s Moroccan gardener, despite there being no evidence of him being on the scene except an accusation written in the victim’s blood on the wall – and it’s logistically unlikely that she wrote it herself. To this day, the gardener claims he’s innocent (he’s out of prison) and the French justice system refuses to re-open the case and run additional tests (like comparing the male DNA that was found on the scene) – probably because they don’t want to admit that they screwed up.

The plot is a bit wobbly because the story is so open-ended and it’s not always obvious how the two sides of the plot (one part follows Omar Raddad, the gardener, and the other follows a very Parisian essayist who’s writing a book about the case, Truman Capote-style) fit together, except that the essayist serves for exposition purposes. But it’s very well played, especially by Sami Bouajila, who does a heartwrenching job with his portrayal of Omar Raddad. Denis Podalydès, who plays the essayist, has an easier time of it, but he performs honourably as well.

Anyway, if anyone’s really interested in French society, I can recommend this movie: keep it on your radar. This is how the French can truely think and act, and it has nothing to do with the fantasies of New York Times writers who’ve never seen anything beyond upper-class Parisian society and who serve cliché after cliché instead of a realistic view of the country.

Victoria von Syrus
Victoria von Syrus
9 years ago

I just won a basket of beers (local brewery named Four Peaks)!

*Gasp!*

I’ll take ’em! I love local brews!

I actually have five gallons of porter brewing in my closet right now. I’ve decided to see if I can become a decent homebrewer and start playing around with making my own beer.

I also just started playing the Star Trek: Online MMORPG. Anyone else on that?

theLaplaceDemon
theLaplaceDemon
9 years ago

EVERYONE THIS IS SUPER IMPORTANT

http://dogorwizard.com/

Owllizard
Owllizard
9 years ago

Ami,
I have an idea for one of your cards. In a post waaaay back on the old blog, Mr. Al was ‘educating’ us on his alpha, beta etc system and seemed to think that only alphas have true pleasure and happiness, or something like that. The comment I left was effectivley; I am a fat, over 40, feminist with hairy legs. I make more money than my husband. I have mind blowing sex often, the joy and pleasure and happiness are real.
This isnt an exact quote as i cant rememeber the precise words. but this was the gist. Thats the card, the fat furry legged older woman having pleasure. If you can see it and I think you can, go for it, I dont know enough about the game to say more.

KristinMH
9 years ago

I love the Plymouth card, Ami! Hawt!

Saw “X-Men: First Class” last night. Really good in spite of the slightly anachronistic miniskirts. I totally have a crush on Michael Fassbender as Magneto (no pun intended).

Tabby Lavalamp
Tabby Lavalamp
9 years ago

Congratulations, New York!

Noddy, it took me a while to get into Wicked, but once I did, it sucked me right in to that world. I can’t watch the Wizard of Oz now without considering it anti-Wicked Witch propaganda and cheering on poor Elphaba!
While the book works as a stand-alone novel, I’m also in love with the series and can’t wait for the fourth to come out. It’s apparently also the final one, and that actually makes me happy because I don’t want to see it drawn out and lose its quality.

Tabby Lavalamp
Tabby Lavalamp
9 years ago

Also, I’m sorry I called you “Noddy” instead of Nobby!

ithiliana
9 years ago

Nobby: I read Wicked when it first came out which was a while ago, but never saw the musical. I loathed the book so much I never re-read and never read any of Maguire’s other books. I was thrilled (before I read it) to think of something told from the witch’s point of view–there was a lot of feminist retellings of Grimm stories and fairy tales that moved into th witches’ points of view that I loved. But Maguire’s work (like Philip Jose Farmer’s A Barnstormer in Oz which I read but which was never that popular–premise was a pilot in small plane got to Oz through storm and had sex with Glnda the Good, i.e. Oz for “adults”) bothered me–turning Oz into such a dystopia, and the heavy handed imposition of MARXSM THUD seemed equally bad, in the same was as Farmer’s “let’s SEX UP Oz” — but all from a very masulinist point of view. (The adaptations by women authors of male authored fairy tales seemed very different to me as a reader–not surprising since I’m a feminist).

Although I enjoy the Oz movies (the second one in some ways more than the first–I mean Oz takes off when OZMA takes over, yay!), I’ve not been fond of the books I’ve read that “adapt” Oz. That may very well by my own sense of ownership of Oz (since it’s been a part of my life since I was 5 which means fifty years!)

HOWEVER, I can totally recommend Geoff Rymans’ WAS which is not a fanasy, but historical fiction looking the importance of Oz in the USA–working through the points of view of the “historical” Dorothy Gael, Frances Gumm (Judy garland), and Jonathan, an actor with AIDS, who is researching Dorothy’s life for a production (he’s playing the Scarecrow). Brilliant, fantastic, superb, wonderful–I’m teaching it in my graduate class this summer (along with Edward P. Jones THE KNOWN WORLD).

Speedlines: I definitely understand the purist philosophy, but I gather that when Baum was handing things over to Ruth Plumley Thompson, one or two of her first books were published under his name–I’d have to dig up the information to see if they later changed the name. In some ways, I like some of Thompson’s better than some of Baum’s — but since I read them all when I was a kid before I quite realized what “author” meant, I just think of them as OZ.

amandajane5
amandajane5
9 years ago

I’m with ithiliana on Wicked – read it once and wasn’t a huge fan. I’ve only heard the soundtrack to the musical, and I loved that, though I don’t know how I’d feel about the show itself.

I love the Baum books, though a couple of Thompson’s are really really fantastic. What’s the one about the little boy with the three different colored pearls? Rinkitink in Oz I think – my all about Oz book is at my parents’ house. Though I’m still pissed that she re-spelled Nome as Gnome. There was an explanation for the odd spelling that Baum used!

ithiliana
9 years ago

Amandajane5: Prince of Pingaree–the three pearsl–in Rinkitink of Oz–that was one of my favorites–also with the PIRATES!

ALl my books are packed up because of the flood (until concrete slab dries out all the way, we cannot get new flooring installed, whimpers).

I also love Speedy–and his pet dinosaur Terrybubble–and Cloud Island!

ithiliana
9 years ago

MRA/ANTI-FEMINIST and OZ crossover–OK, so I started thinking about Oz, and adaptations, because of discussion here, then went back and read the incredibly long thread fertilized by Mr. AWS, and now I keep thinking of how Trolls would fit in Oz (the movie).

AWS: to the tune of Lions, and Tigers, and Bears, Oh My (of course): “Feminists, Zionists, and Sadists, Oh My!” ALthough now I think about it, he would be great as the Cowardly Lion.

NWO: He’s the Tin Woodman: “if I only had a brain” I could write coherent sentences!

This is incredibly nasty of me, but oh, well, I’ve already pissed him off, and his ongoing “nobody is real except ME” pisses me off bigtime, so: MRAL would be cast as a Munchkin. Maybe all the Munchkins. Although he would do fairly well as the Scarecrow because he certainly needs a heart.

I would play the Wicked Witch, OF COURSE! (The WW would Win because this is a FEMINIST adaptation which is in fact an allegory for how the Evil Wicked Feminists have been manipulated by the Rothschilds sadists Man Behind the Curtain into ruining the cleanblooded manly USian American men and the wonderful LAND they built.

The part of Dorothy, the HERo, the young woman with an incredible imagination and love could only by played by Ami Angelwings.

For sequels, I’d cast Pecunium as Johnny Fix it (a friend of the Shaggy Man who doesn’t get a huge part (except he could in my adaptaton) but should.

ithiliana
9 years ago

TATTOOS!

Mr. AWS said all feminists have tattoos. I haz tattoos! (But not very many shoes). Rather spend my money on books and tattoos, though I have more shoes now than I used to (NINE pairs)

So has there been a ‘share your tattoo’ thread here at Manboobz evah?

I got my first tattoo in 1983 on a summer abroad program–it was my Oxford souvenier. A little rose on my left shoulder, one that wouldn’t show when I had a shirt on. Got it at Lionel’s World Famous Tattoo Parlor.

Later to celebrate turning 50, and getting promotion to professor, (and paying off students loans and truck), I got MOAR tattoos: at Bongo’s in Paris (Texas).

On my right upper arm, I have my fandom pseud (Ithilana) transliterated into the Belerian dialect of Sindarin Elvish (one of Tolkien’s 14 invented languages). The colors are a blueish purple and green (purple and green being my favorite colours since my Oz days–Emerald City and Gillikins FTW!). The true Tolkien nerds who know Elvish can translate it, but even those of us who don’t know Elvish (a friend did the transliteration for me) can often recognize the script.

On my left side, I wanted MOAR roses; my artist redid the rose from 1983 which had faded a bit, and then created a wonderful twinining rose vine that starts at the original rose, goes up over my shoulder, and winds around my upper arm–red roses, and she included THORNS. It’s lovely.

The roses–well long story short, it’s a reclamation of rose imagery which has been used in poetry for too long as a male-controlled metaphor for women’s vaginas which become a synecdoche for women’s bodies (since the 14th century when the Crusaders brought roses back to England). My main emphasis in my undergrad program was British literature, and poetry, so I was steeped in rose imagery . I’ve taught a whole unit in my intro to poetry class on the tradition to the great shock of my poor studenst who, brought up in Texas, do not realize that there was ever any sex in poetry until recently when the godlesscommieperverts took over. So the roses are mine.

To celebrate turning 55, I’m planing on extending the roses around my back and across my (upper) chest to twine down the other arm, with the roses maybe turning purple as they twine around my Fan Pseud (there’s only one mention of roses in Tolkien’s LOTR–when Ioreth talks about the roses of Imloth Melui from her youth) comparing the smell of the athelas to her memory of the roses of her homeland when she was a lass.

So, tattooed feminists? Anybody else?

Tabby Lavalamp
Tabby Lavalamp
9 years ago

Mr. AWS said all feminists have tattoos.

I’m saddened to suddenly discover I’m not a feminist. 🙁

amandajane5
amandajane5
9 years ago

Hee! You got your Scarecrow and Tin Man backwards! Did you read any of Baum’s non-Oz stuff? I’m fond of Sky Island ’cause I’ve always loved Trot and Cap’n Bill, and I vividly remember the birthday party scene in Queen Zixi of Ix because Santa Claus came!!! Haven’t read that one in ages, though it’s probably around here somewhere.

I don’t think I ever found Speedy – I’m about 20 years younger than you are so all of my Oz books were found either in the library or my book collector uncle, who introduced me to them, would find them for me at used book stores. My collection is really random, but I do have all 14 of Baum’s I’m fairly positive – those are the ones that they still put out in paperback, though. Just pulled out my copy of Dorothy and the Wizard in Oz and it has the name of it’s original owner and is dated Feb. 1945, so it’s at least older than my parents!

In our Oz crossover, clearly I would play Trot, with her grubby sailor dress, willingness to try anything, love of boats and her faithful companion played by…my cat?

I do not have tattoos, but I do have a star-shaped scar on my ankle that I cut myself – I’ve had it for 20 years, and if I ever got ink, I’d probably just give it an outline, but I’ve been told it’d be really painful because it really is right on top of my ankle bone.

ithiliana
9 years ago

*damn* I did. I blame the exhaustion and stress of the last week (the flooring wa supposed to be installed but OMG high moisture spots). So, erm, consider that corrected, thanks to Amandajane5.

I loved Trot, and yes, I have Baum’s other books (some of them at least).

Yep, tattoos on top of bone (I’ll never get feet or ankle tattoos) are painful; the roses across the collarbone were the most painful. It also depends on how much sun your skin is exposed to, and the amount of fat…no way will get a breast one (I admire the people who do).

One of my FAVE characters is the Patchwork girl–I could neverb e here, but I’d love to hang out with her.

ithiliana
9 years ago

Tabby Lavalamp: None of us are feminists, if by feminists we mean somebody who fits all the bizarreo contradictory racist babble of AWS’ list–I just glommed onto the tattoo part because, well tattoos.

And I’d ask him, if he was still around, how that works: if all feminists have tattoos, does that mean that everybody who has a tattoo is a feminist?

PosterformerllyknownasElizabeth
PosterformerllyknownasElizabeth
9 years ago

Darn Lady V, already forced my roommate to drink them but I can hold the gift card until you visit Tempe.

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