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Career women: A crime against nature?

She's trouble!

Quiz: Which of the following is an example of female infidelity? (Check all that apply.)

a)      A man and a woman are in a monogamous relationship; neither one sleeps with anyone else.

b)      A man and a woman are in a monogamous relationship; the man sleeps with someone else.

c)       A man and a woman are in a monogamous relationship; the woman sleeps with someone else.

d)      A woman, who may or may not be in a monogamous relationship, works hard at a job she enjoys.

ANSWER: If you answered c, congratulations! You are correct. If you also answered d, you are probably PUA guru and freelance internet asshole “Roissy” or one of his douchey fans. In a recent post Roissy argues, quite sincerely, that women who take their careers seriously are committing a sort of psycho-social-sexual crime against men.

In the post, Roissy quotes a reader of his who’d suggested that “female career obsession [is] a form of infidelity to the family and marrage.” Roissy seconds this opinion and goes on to argue that:

Women who place their careers front and center are committing a kind of betrayal of their sex’s biological and psychological imperatives. It’s like a big middle finger to everything that distinguishes the feminine from the masculine, the yin from the yang.

Is it possible that these women are just, you know, really into their careers? That they’re good at what they do and enjoy doing it? That they want to make a difference in the world? That they might have a family to support? Or that, you know, they simply like making a lot of money?

Of course not. For Roissy, careers are little more than psychological crutches for women who are 1) trying to distract themselves from loneliness and/or sexual boredom:

It’s quite possible that the worst offenders — the 14 hour day lawyercunts and the graduate school hermits — embrace the male-oriented rat race and achievement spectacle because it offers a welcome distraction from either spinsterly loneliness or boring beta male partners who, while intellectually are rationalized as good matches, do not viscerally excite them.

Or, 2) imagining themselves as the heroines in some glamorous romance novel:

Maybe, too, these careerist chicks see their jobs as a way to enter the world of the alpha male, to have a taste of what it would be like to be part of his life. The office cubes and doormen and glassy skyscrapers have given legions of plain janes the daily stimulation to mentally masturbate fantasy romances with the alpha males who run their companies or the alpha salesmen who greet them at the front desk with a twinkle in their eyes.

Or, 3) trying to magically ward off the case of the uglies that apparently infects each and every woman when she hits the age of 40:

When a woman’s SMV [Sexual Market Value] inevitably craters in her 40s, her career might be all she has to lift her spirits, especially if she has no husband she loves, no kids, or even just one kid who spends most of his time playing CoD or robbing convenience stores.

Of course, in Roissy’s mind, these women aren’t quite women to begin with, even before they get hit with the 40th birthday ugly stick:

 [T]here is something “off” about women who are excessively devoted to their careers and to obtaining an acronymic parade of pointless credentials. Careerist shrikes are some of the most unpleasant, unfeminine women to be around. They must have more androgen receptors than normal women to be so grating to the male sensibility. Sure, they can fuck like Viagra-laced male pornstars, but as soon as you relieve yourself in them you will feel a second powerful urge to escape their aggro nastiness.

Yeah, somehow I’m guessing that urge to flee is pretty strong in these women as well, as soon as they realize that they guy they’ve just had sex with is a pretentious narcissistic windbag who hates women.

Roissy continues, revealing far more about his own sexual insecurities than about any actual career women:

The women for whom career success is their comfort and their purpose are some sort of weird, monstrous amalgam of man and woman, halfway between both worlds, their sexual polarity askew. These types tend to attract either intense short term flings with alphas or plodding marriages with dweeby, effete kitchen bitches.

Roissy is vaguely aware that feminists – not to mention pretty much anyone who isn’t a complete douchebag misogynist – might have a few issues with his theories here.

The dumbfuck feminists will naturally ask, “Why doesn’t this same theory apply to men? Aren’t they escaping sad love lives by retreating to their careers?”

Don’t you know it’s different for guys? Unlike women, men are evolutionarily programmed to be resource providers for women. It is not a betrayal of a man’s innate purpose in life to ambitiously pursue achievement and accolades. In fact, just the opposite; it’s an affirmation of that ancient purpose.

Remember this, you ungrateful career ladies: WE HUNTED THE MAMMOTH TO FEED YOU!

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kirbywarp
kirbywarp
13 years ago

@AWS:

Oh yes, I saw. You still quoted it in the context of taking my argument point by point. 🙂 Thanks for clarifying your position with regards to sodomy as well.

Hmm.. Quick question though.. Is hurling insults and abuse towards commenters considered a sadistic practice? How about practically masturbating to the thought of calling people nitwit, failure, sadist, and so on? How about glorifying your own exploits and attributes for the purpose of shaming or emasculating others?

I think we have ourselves a closeted feminist here… Also a homosexual. (focusing so much on pleasuring “wet ladies,” are you insecure about something?)

Bee
Bee
13 years ago

Yes, Aws, I’m a failure at being an anti-feminist. Color me sadd.

You’re a failure at proving that the Flintstones are sadist pychopath feminists, though. I was really looking forward to that argument, too. Got the popcorn and everything.

kirbywarp
kirbywarp
13 years ago

@Bee:

The way the questions are worded, you could be against some of the things mentioned without agreeing with others who share the same answer. Plus you get easy points for stuff you haven’t done or don’t have, like tatoos or rectal sodomy. (perhaps oral sodomy is just peachy?)

Still, high five!

Johnny Pez
13 years ago

There must be some kinda way outta here
Said the Zionist psychopath to the anti-feminist
There’s too much confusion
I can’t get no tobacconist

Bee
Bee
13 years ago

kirbywarp:

High five! Yeah, and then some of the questions … well, it had the same problem that all true-false tests do, I guess, where there’s no room for nuance. Do you support low taxes and personal freedoms? Low taxes for the lower 50% incomes? Low property taxes? Low corporate taxes? Personal freedom to have abortions? Own machine guns? What?

I think I read that as coded for something that I don’t support, but it’s true that I support low taxes and personal freedoms depending on the situation.

Holly Pervocracy
13 years ago

I got a 56%. Which is hilarious, because I’m maybe the only actual feminist sadist on this thread.

I didn’t know being anti-feminist required one to be racist, paranoid about the government, and anti-gay, but I guess I’m, y’know, not surprised. You’ve already made the commitment not to be a particularly sensible person, so why not go whole hog? I’m eagerly awaiting the addition of “Do you believe in the sheeple homosexual Zionist lie of the round Earth?” to the quiz.

AWS
AWS
13 years ago

“Is hurling insults and abuse towards commenters considered a sadistic practice?”

You tell me as you have hurled many insults toward me as have others. Is kirby the sadist/feminist /failure and 9/11 shill a cry baby now that insults are hurled at him?

“calling people nitwit, failure, sadist’

The fact is most feminist prove they are. Feminists hurl insults at other and then are cry like babies when the tables are turned. If you can’t take the heat get out of the kitchen hypocritical feminist dweeb and failure. You have been skooled kirby the nitwit shill..

kirbywarp
kirbywarp
13 years ago

@Bee:

Yeah, same. Also, a lot of questions that had the form “Are you an X activist” had me saying no, simply because I don’t actively promote them.

I love how, even at 44%, its like “Well, you won’t like my blog, but you aren’t completely screwed, so read my blog, and perhaps you’ll see the light!” AWS doesn’t seem to have the same high opinion of us.

AWS
AWS
13 years ago

“Color me sadd.”

You have done that yourself.

kirbywarp
kirbywarp
13 years ago

@AWS:

You see, we are already sadists in your head, so it doesn’t matter if we hurl insults. You, on the other hand, are apparently NOT one, yet you engage in sadistic behavior. So…. prove you aren’t a sadist. Cause your behavior says you are. 😉

Oooh, also you seem to want to end every post with “you have been schooled” or “ha, proven wrong yet again” and so on. Ever heard of checkmate? You might find a kindred spirit.

AWS
AWS
13 years ago

“I got a 56%.”

Indeed this forum is full of feminist failures. sadism is by nature a failure both economy, morally and intellectually.

feminism = sadism

kirbywarp
kirbywarp
13 years ago

@Holly:

The “feminist failure” thing means “a feminist that is a failure,” not “a failure at being a feminist.” I’m also pretty sure that the quiz is to get onto an anti-feminist blog… So, yeah.

kirbywarp
kirbywarp
13 years ago

@Holly:

Never mind, misread your comment. Sorry about that.

Holly Pervocracy
13 years ago

This is offending me not just as a feminist but as a sadist.

AWS
AWS
13 years ago

I will defend myself using appropriate techniques as I am being attacked by sadists. Since folks (as proven by a google app) here operate at a base level I use the appropriate measures to defend my-self.

You are the most foolish person I have come across in years with an almost total lack of reasoning skills. It’s like saying someone can’t defend himself against robbers because he knows he is getting robbed and should not fight back. Your logic is inane and psychopathic.

Feminists are nitwits, dolts, failures and sadists. You admit to being a feminist. The truth is not derogatory.

Feminists are also hypocritical to the extreme.

Spearhafoc
13 years ago

Try and keep up 9/11 shill.

How long is he supposed to keep up the 9/11 shill?

Kirbywarp’s a big guy, but everybody needs a little rest after holding up a 9/11 shill for a while.

kirbywarp
kirbywarp
13 years ago

@AWS:

First, you came here, so the robber analogy fails. Second, its more like you are being robbed, and your response is to try to rob them back. If we are “nitwits, dolts, failures and sadists” then by coming down to our level, you make yourself the same. Simple reasoning for a genius like you. 😛

“Feminists are nitwits, dolts, failures and sadists.”

Incredibly enough, [citation still desperately needed].

kirbywarp
kirbywarp
13 years ago

@Spearhafoc:

I’ll admit, it gets weary trying to hold up the abstract conception that is a date/emergency telephone number. But somehow, I think I’ll manage. 😛

AWS
AWS
13 years ago

“apparently NOT one’

Way to obsessively/compulsively shout in all caps like a typical sadistic feminist dweeb does.

theLaplaceDemon
theLaplaceDemon
13 years ago

“Since folks (as proven by a google app) here operate at a base level I use the appropriate measures to defend my-self. ”

[citation needed]

“Your logic is inane and psychopathic. ”

I don’t think you know the definition of “psychopath.” May I suggest Wikipedia? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychopath

firebee
firebee
13 years ago

Hmm.

On the bright side, I’m glad that at least this yahoo is recognizing that I didn’t buy a chainmail flogger at this year’s Pride in order to express my yielding and submissive qualities…

kirbywarp
kirbywarp
13 years ago

@AWS:

Wasn’t that the first word I’ve ever said to you in all caps? One word? Out of how many posts? I don’t think “obssessively/compulsively” means what you think it means. You still have yet to prove that you aren’t a sadist, good luck with that.

kirbywarp
kirbywarp
13 years ago

@Actual sadists on this board:

I’m not trying to denegrate sadism here, by the way, and I realize nobody wants to be grouped with this ass. Its a fun tactic to show that the person who’s being bigoted is in fact the very thing he is bigoted against. I do apologize, however, for the repeated comparisons.

AWS
AWS
13 years ago

“and your response is to try to rob them back”

wow, you are slipping. How can i rob my own stuff? Truly you are a nitwit feminist/sadist. Yeah, if I am robbed not only will I get my stuff back but I will use all tools at my disposal to protect myself.

Feminists can’t take the heat which is why they are failures in business and in life. I mock you back and you cry like a feminist dweeb. You have no valid points. I posted the research and now I am exposing your sadistic and psychopathic mindset

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